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*::To answer your question, my results above are to confirm these two accounts are technically related but did not link to any socks in the archive/the master account. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' | ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 23:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC) |
*::To answer your question, my results above are to confirm these two accounts are technically related but did not link to any socks in the archive/the master account. [[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">'''Jazz'''</i>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Dreamy Jazz|talk to me]]'' | ''[[Special:Contribs/Dreamy Jazz|my contributions]]''</sup> 23:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC) |
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*:::Thanks @[[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy Jazz]]! I see many things pointing towards RutiWinkler being Ariel Fernandez. They add sources by Fernandez (including the book they've been actively promoting elsewhere) and they edit similar articles like socks otherwise as well, including classical music. The new account is associated with a sleeper which doesn't make much sense if this is a brand new editor either. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 01:09, 3 January 2022 (UTC) |
*:::Thanks @[[User:Dreamy Jazz|Dreamy Jazz]]! I see many things pointing towards RutiWinkler being Ariel Fernandez. They add sources by Fernandez (including the book they've been actively promoting elsewhere) and they edit similar articles like socks otherwise as well, including classical music. The new account is associated with a sleeper which doesn't make much sense if this is a brand new editor either. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 01:09, 3 January 2022 (UTC) |
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*{{btc}} per my analysis above. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 01:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC) |
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Arifer
- Arifer (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
28 December 2021
– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.
Suspected sockpuppets
- RutiWinkler (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
Arifer, an indefinitely blocked, long-term serial sockpuppeter who self-identified as Ariel Fernandez here, has returned as RutiWinkler to continue their self-promotion; see this, this and their comments here, plus this and this. The tone and topics are precisely aligned with the many previous socks. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 17:11, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- The behavioral evidence matching RutiWinkler to Arifer and their many, many previous socks is continuing, both below and here. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 17:23, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
I am new to this process. It seems this BLP berates the subject. It dwells excessively on bad content and ignores key biographical points. That was noted by others as well. It is obvious. That makes us puppets of Ariel Fernandez? I don't think so, at least not in my case. RutiWinkler (talk) 19:59, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- I read the accusation. I am not promoting anybody. At first, I simply tried to include recent scientific literature. Why was that construed as promotion by JoJoAnthrax? When this person undid my contribution, I obviously took interest in the Ariel Fernandez BLP and realized he was being serially berated. RutiWinkler (talk) 20:24, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Confirmed:
- SuLauMen (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- RutiWinkler Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 00:03, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Dreamy Jazz Does this mean SuLauMen confirmed to RutiWinkler or both of them confirmed to Arifer through previous socks or checks? --Trialpears (talk) 22:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Trialpears unfortunately the socks in the archive were all
Stale for comparison when I got to this CU request. Checkuser wiki was not helpful here and the last publicly documented check by a checkuser was in May 2019. The last CU check was in April 2021. This leaves CU log data the only source of information to provide technical links to the accounts in the archive.
- This CU log data suggests that Lelandykes is related to these accounts due to similar ranges, which I would call
Possible with the context of limited technical evidence to compare when using the CU log. Lelandykes is tagged as only suspected and the CU who checked did not publicly comment on any link to previous socks. However, for other socks in the archive (those with documented CU results) this link is even weaker. As such any connection to previous socks based purely on technical evidence is at best weak, so I would prefer that when tagging / blocking comparison of edits to socks in the archive is considered with these results.
- To answer your question, my results above are to confirm these two accounts are technically related but did not link to any socks in the archive/the master account. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 23:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks @Dreamy Jazz! I see many things pointing towards RutiWinkler being Ariel Fernandez. They add sources by Fernandez (including the book they've been actively promoting elsewhere) and they edit similar articles like socks otherwise as well, including classical music. The new account is associated with a sleeper which doesn't make much sense if this is a brand new editor either. --Trialpears (talk) 01:09, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Trialpears unfortunately the socks in the archive were all
Blocked and tagged. Closing. per my analysis above. --Trialpears (talk) 01:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)