User talk:Meegs

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Some advice

Hello again! The other night, a user was created, MoreronCantContributeHeOnlyErases (talk · contribs), who was blocked indefinitely. I believe this to be the same user as we have discuss in the past (User:Padgett22, User:Onlyslighted, ect). Though I am loathe to do it, I have decided to start compiling information for a WP:RFC at User:Moeron/RFC. Since I mention you a time or two because of past incidents, I was hoping you might be able to look over it and let me know how it looks, if you think it has validity, ect. I would really appreciate it. Cheers! -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 18:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks like I missed the request's formative stage completely, but cool, Essjay ran the checkuser and confirmed tons of puppets. Good job. By the way, RFC nearly always refers to requests for comment. ×Meegs 13:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

A question to ask

Hey Meegs. Firstly, a Happy New Year to you. The reason I write you this is to ask you a question. Regarding my recent edit on the Popular Tamil films page. I recently updated the page, adding more films to the "2006" section. You see, I compiled the information I acquired from a webiste. At first, User:Prince Godfather reverted the edit claiming POV. My edit had no POV whatsoever, so I reverted it back. And then, Prince Godfather reverts it back claiming that the list is copyright infringing, stating that Wikipedia may be fined if the website I enquired it from. My question is, is Prince Godfather right? I certainly dont feel that way because if that were the case, the whole article should be deleted. I eagerly await your reply. -- Hariharan91 19:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Hariharan. I have only glanced at the diffs, but it seems to me that this may be an argument that can never be completely resolved (although I don't see any talk edits by either of you, so it looks as though you have not even tried). The problem is the article itself; it's really nothing but a list, and its criteria for inclusion is neither clear nor completely objective. You're never going to get everyone to agree on which films were "popular", which ones received "critical acclaim", or on which film review websites to consider authoritative. If you want my advice, nominate the article for deletion, and then either stick to discussing the top films within the prose of real articles, expand on the all-inclusive List of Tamil-Language Films, or start a new, objective list (e.g. "List of highest-grossing Tamil films", "List of award-winning Tamil films"). If you start a new list, be sure to include citations for every entry and to utilize the article's talk page if disputes arise. ×Meegs 13:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Category:Military brat

A few months ago, you voted to delete a category:Military brat. It has been reintroduced and once again is being nominated for deletion. The discussion is here. I am contacting you so that you can revisit the discussion, but before doing so please read the article Military brat (U.S. subculture) as the term is not POV and is a highly researched subject. The previous discussion was done before I got involved, but I think you will find out that this is a credible subject worthy of its own category. Balloonman 22:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I was somewhat supportive in the previous discussion. In any case, I still have mixed feelings about the usefulness of the category, so I'm not sure if I'm going to comment any further this time around. ×Meegs 00:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem... I felt that since I contacted people from the page that I should also contact people who were involved last time...Balloonman 02:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Krimpet

Wow, I just checked this users contribution list and noticed that he has removed big parts and whole "Popular Culture" sections in more than 35 different pages without any kind of disscusion first. I came to you because I felt someone should talk to him, someone with autority. Thanks for taking the time to listen to me-Dark Dragon Flame | Talk 04:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but if you disagree with their edits, you're going to have to talk it over with them. They stopped editing an hour before you left your message on their talk page, so please be patient and wait for their reply. Honestly though, if you ask me, removing the "popular culture" sections from articles like Nikita Khrushchev [1] is a very good idea. Also, I've only glanced at their contributions, but in most cases, it seems that they merely added the template {{toomuchtrivia}}. ×Meegs 05:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

We reached an understanding, din't had an idea that this was being disscused at The Village Pump wich means it was discussed, sorry for being so hasty-Dark Dragon Flame 20:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. ×Meegs 21:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Finsfan8499

Sorry about posting two consecutive complain posts, but he is starting to get on my nerves, he just went and vandalised my user page, seems like he is mad. I am not interested in having anything to do with all his vandalism so I came here since it seems you already know what he does, and I am not going to write in his talk page ever again. On a sidenote the whole Goku's height issue was resolved, it was 5'7 however I admit I should have posted the reference sooner instead of going in a editwar, that's about it -peace-Dark Dragon Flame 08:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually I just learned that he did the same to Shadowjester07, he was warned by an user but I doubt that he will listen-Dark Dragon Flame 09:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry; yeah, I saw both edits. I will keep an eye on him for at least a few more days. ×Meegs 09:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

User:E tac

I was wondering if you can look at the recent image uploads and insertions by E tac (talk · contribs). While some of the recent images are fine (such as Image:Pyramazeband.jpg is a promo picture from here), some of the images have been labeled as screenshots or taken from such pages as MySpace.com and metalarchives.com (like Image:Edecband.jpg and Image:Lanceking1.jpg, which is tagged as promo from official site but comes from a fan blog/news site). Thank you for your time! -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 00:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you can take a look at User talk:Moeron#Dave Mustaine and User talk:Moeron#Stop removing my fair use images that would be great. -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 00:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I see you've gotten help at ANI. It would have saved me some time if you'd come back here and told me that you had asked for help there too. As for those images, whether they are tagged {{promotional}} or with some other fair use tag is one of the last things I would worry about. I'd first consider whether they meet FUC #1; it's not clear to me that any of those three do, including the one you say is fine. When it's not obvious, this should covered in the image's rationale. Second, check that we've identified the copyright holder of the images. It's not safe to assume that all high quality photographs are the property of bands and their labels. If a photo's only information is a fan page url, we can't begin to estimate the effect our use will have on its value. {{no copyright holder}} gives a more targeted message for these cases than {{no source}}. ×Meegs 08:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Bill Hall photo

I recently uploaded and put a picture on Bill Hall witch you deleted. When I uploaded it i tried to put the copyright but it just came up unknown. Could you pelase explain the way to do it.--Bigboyhiphop 08:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

There are two problems here; one is technical, the other deals with Wikipedia policy.

• The technical problem is that when you re-upload a file under the same filename, the license and summary information that you enter on the upload page is discarded. If you want to change the information on a photo that's already been uploaded, you need to edit its image description page. You can change everything for there, including its image copyright tag.
• The second problem is that Wikipedia is a free content project and only accepts unfree copyrighted content in a very few specific cases. All copyrighted images on Wikipedia that are not available under a free license must comply with our fair use policy. Since Hall is a living, active player, it should be possible to take a photograph of him and release it under a free license. As such, criterion #1 of the policy will not let us use any unfree image just to show what he looks like. Also see counterexamples #5 and 8.

There's really too much for me to explain here, but please take a look at Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Fair use and let me know if you have any questions. ×Meegs 08:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Advice on Semi-protection

Hi Meegs, I was just wondering whether you can request semi-protection to a article of a item that is about to be released into stores to prevent vandalism to it? I am enquiring about the article Windows Vista which is to be released on January 30th. I just need a bit of advice because I have never done this act before. Many thanks, Extranet ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 05:06, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Extranet. Really, I have very little experience with protection too. The fact that the product is being released soon, though, can also be seen as an incentive to keep it unprotected, by allowing us to take advantage of the swell of interest to improve the article. If the frequency of vandalism picks up, then by all means, don't hesitate to list it at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection for semi protection. Posts there are usually addressed in a matter of minutes; there are instructions at the top of the page and plenty of other requests to emulate. ×Meegs 05:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks for your help. --Extranet ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 06:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply - Image copyright problems

long post removed

Hi. There's no need to copy your reply here. I'll get back to you shortly at User talk:Lahiru k#Image copyright problems. ×Meegs 18:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Seems no one paying their attention on our case. I'm bit scared that my pictures get deleted. May I replace those with my template? --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ ^{Walkie-talkie} 17:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Meegs, Jeff replied on our case. So what should be our next step? --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ ^{Walkie-talkie} 15:29, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Meegs, I don't quite get what you say. But, those images are really essential for those articles. Since they are being used under fair use it can be used in that article only. I think for that purpose the images are sufficiently free. I have already scanned a lot of images for a couple of articles, but the work on those articles are paused due to this ongoing case. Is there anyway, I can make a public domain template according to the copyright law in Sri Lanka? If so that would be a great help not only for me but also for all the Sri Lankan editors in Wikipedia. I can easily help on this since I'm living in Sri Lanka. --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ ^{Walkie-talkie} 18:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning, and for your kind comment accompanying your !vote. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 18:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi Meegs! Could you please take a look at this anon users contributions:- Here The you will note my message on the userpage and talk page. Regrettably the user is taking no notice and is only contributing vandalism. Would it be possible to put a long term temporary block on it for a month until I get a reply back from the Mayors Office? Richard Harvey 14:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll watch, and block it for another couple of months if the problems continue. In cases like these, I don't think there's much need to contact sysops; we can take care of them easily with extended blocks. ×Meegs 12:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that! Its much appreciated. Although I'm a WP:VP user and not an admin, its frustrating to have to take your time up to do blocks in such cases. It would be nice if WP:VP allowed its users to do a 1 hour or possibly 1 day temporary block on anon vandals after a T4 warning has been ignored. That would allow us to prevent much of the 'school dinner break' and 'Office dinner break' vandalism spree's! Richard Harvey 15:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about bothering me, but when you need a quick response, it's best to post to WP:AIV. ×Meegs 15:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Featured Article

Do you think The Links, Incorporated can be a featured article? If so, or if not, how can I improve the article? Thanks. Real96 08:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Real96. I made a bunch of improvements to the article and suggested a few more at Talk:The Links, Incorporated#A few suggestions. Best ×Meegs 11:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Image deveshwar.jpg

Hey..I got the image from the Economist...this is the URL.. http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.economist.com/images/20040605/2304WB0.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm%3Fstory_id%3D2725013&h=226&w=240&sz=10&hl=en&start=16&tbnid=eHjnL_c3LV1GPM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddeveshwar%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

if the image is freely available on google image search doesnt it mean tat its free to use? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shreyas310 (talk • contribs) 06:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

[2] I am not an Economist subscriber, so I can not view the page. As I said here, the image is very likely not compatible with Wikipedia regardless of who owns it, though I was hoping that the image caption might identify the copyright holder. To answer your general question, no, publishing content (such as putting a photograph on a web page) does not grant others the right to use it. Unless the copyright holder says otherwise, published works retain full copyright protection. ×Meegs 00:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Emulating the master

Are you familiar with the olde tyme saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" ... ? --Kralizec! (talk) 15:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Of course. Why do you ask? I think I'm missing something. ×Meegs 00:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see; very stylish. Surely you know, though, that flattery will get you nowhere. One suggestion: either make the last cell "2007→present" or just "2007". Starting that cell with an arrow leaves "2006→" without a proper bookend. ×Meegs 02:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair Use Images

I have been told you are one of the most respected fair use image decisionmakers. I am considering FAC2 on Campbell's Soup Cans. There were vocal complaints about my fair image usage. I have revised all image pages and captions and would like your opinion on my fair image usage before renominating my article. Please respond at my talk page. TonyTheTiger 18:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to take a look a bit later. ×Meegs 00:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointers in your response. Currently, I have a written request (cc: permissions at WP dot org) of Artists Rights Society (http://www.arsny.com/) for consent. I am hoping to add Campbell's Soup Cans II to with consent. The Museum of Contemporary Arts, Chicago will send image if I get consent. The ARSNY will probably render an opinion on the 8 current image inclusions soon as well. I also may request an image from the Andy Warhol Museum depicting phase 3 if they have one once ARSNY gives me an understanding of their perspective on consent. TonyTheTiger 11:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC

P.S. Do you have any general opinion of the qualification of the article for FA now? TonyTheTiger 11:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: rm covers from the chronology

I'm surprised to see that many of them around! They should be gone in few minutes. Regards, Jogers (talk) 14:33, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: my conduct toward bruce

Okay meegs I won't edit your talk page or bruce dickinson. I had no idea you had power. Please do not block me. I contribute to other pages I care about. I just thought it was funny.

But please do me the favor of not adding anything to my talk/discussion page. I did not know this would be taken so seriously and I don't want other to impune me for not knowing the consequences of what I though was a harmless joke. If you feel Bruce Dickinson is worth your protection, then go ahead. But please don't tag up my page with your feelings.

You have to admit a lot of people think this now. Steve Buscemi played him so convincingly on MadTV. What about an addition to clear up the confusion. something like:

Trivia: Contrary to popular belief, Bruce dickison did not produce BOC's don't feear reaper in 1976. (reference needed) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.231.230.131 (talk • contribs) February 11.

I don't think you are, but if you're interested in improving the article, please consider posting your ideas to its talk page. ×Meegs 20:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

But since you hold so much sway their shouldn't I be having this conversation with you? Eventually Bruce will have produced the album. ++++70.231.244.149 06:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Neither I nor anyone else is going to allow you to knowingly introduce inaccuracies into an article. Please take your trolling elsewhere. ×Meegs 06:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Garion96's RFA

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship which closed successfully last night. Feel free to let me know if I can help you with something or if I have made a mistake. I would also like to encourage you to vote often (just in case you don't) on other candidates since we need more admins. Happy editing, Garion96 (talk) 00:07, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

VegaDark's Request for Adminship

Meegs

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Thank you for supporting my RfA. It was successful at a unanimous 52/0/0. I hope I can live up to the kind words expressed of me there, and hope to now be more of an asset to the community with access to the tools. Please feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me in the future. Thanks again! VegaDark 07:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

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Lawrence Taylor Mugshot

I'm researching the question you asked me. I emailed the media relations person at the police's website:[3] I'll continue to look into it and try to find the policy there. Incidentally Mel Gibson has a mugshot under the exact same license, that's what gave me the impression I could use it. Quadzilla99 15:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Mel Gibson shot

Greetings, I called the Sheriff's Dept. directly about that. Officer Duhn informed me that all "mug shot" type photos from the L.A. Sheriff's dept. are public domain. I welcome you to call them yourself for verification. The numbers I would suggest you try are: Court Services Information: (323) 526-5541 and General Inquiries: (323) 526-5541. If you have any additional questions don't hesitate to ask. Cheers. (→Netscott) 16:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)