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Apart from the concern of [[WP:EL#Advertising_and_conflicts_of_interest|Advertising and conflicts of interest]], Blogs are [[Wp:el#Links_normally_to_be_avoided|Links normally to be avoided]], this has ben mentioned to you by others in the past. Your contributions to wikipedia consist mainly of adding the franteractive.net website and is considered [[WP:Spam]]. Looking through your contributions as a whole, the majority seem to be external link related only. ''See'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_housing_bubble&diff=prev&oldid=109723660][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_marketing&diff=prev&oldid=109716064][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_housing_bubble&diff=prev&oldid=106983780][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Real_estate_bubble&diff=prev&oldid=106981875][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coca-Cola&diff=prev&oldid=98619620][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net_present_value&diff=prev&oldid=89359491][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loudspeaker&diff=prev&oldid=86781047][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_life_cycle_management&diff=prev&oldid=85773096][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G._E._multi_factoral_analysis&diff=prev&oldid=84656859][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net_present_value&diff=prev&oldid=82647763][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Game_theory&diff=prev&oldid=82034484][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Market_segment&diff=prev&oldid=81134786][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Estimation&diff=prev&oldid=80926989][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Porter_5_forces_analysis&diff=prev&oldid=77926546][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Management_consulting&diff=prev&oldid=78556124][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_requirements_document&diff=prev&oldid=78241254][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net_present_value&diff=prev&oldid=78186642][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Software_product_management&diff=prev&oldid=77940766][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product-Market_Growth_Matrix&diff=prev&oldid=77926994][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strategic_management&diff=prev&oldid=77787424][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Software_product_management&diff=prev&oldid=77114251][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_marketing&diff=prev&oldid=77112534]. In the recent days you have taken an agressive posture to [[WP:CANVASS]] for this links inclusion. ''see'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pareto_efficiency&diff=prev&oldid=111210678][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Porter_5_forces_analysis&diff=prev&oldid=110760018][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Technology_strategy&diff=prev&oldid=109718151]. |
Apart from the concern of [[WP:EL#Advertising_and_conflicts_of_interest|Advertising and conflicts of interest]], Blogs are [[Wp:el#Links_normally_to_be_avoided|Links normally to be avoided]], this has ben mentioned to you by others in the past. Your contributions to wikipedia consist mainly of adding the franteractive.net website and is considered [[WP:Spam]]. Looking through your contributions as a whole, the majority seem to be external link related only. ''See'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_housing_bubble&diff=prev&oldid=109723660][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_marketing&diff=prev&oldid=109716064][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_housing_bubble&diff=prev&oldid=106983780][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Real_estate_bubble&diff=prev&oldid=106981875][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coca-Cola&diff=prev&oldid=98619620][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net_present_value&diff=prev&oldid=89359491][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loudspeaker&diff=prev&oldid=86781047][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_life_cycle_management&diff=prev&oldid=85773096][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G._E._multi_factoral_analysis&diff=prev&oldid=84656859][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net_present_value&diff=prev&oldid=82647763][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Game_theory&diff=prev&oldid=82034484][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Market_segment&diff=prev&oldid=81134786][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Estimation&diff=prev&oldid=80926989][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Porter_5_forces_analysis&diff=prev&oldid=77926546][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Management_consulting&diff=prev&oldid=78556124][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_requirements_document&diff=prev&oldid=78241254][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Net_present_value&diff=prev&oldid=78186642][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Software_product_management&diff=prev&oldid=77940766][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product-Market_Growth_Matrix&diff=prev&oldid=77926994][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strategic_management&diff=prev&oldid=77787424][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Software_product_management&diff=prev&oldid=77114251][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Product_marketing&diff=prev&oldid=77112534]. In the recent days you have taken an agressive posture to [[WP:CANVASS]] for this links inclusion. ''see'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pareto_efficiency&diff=prev&oldid=111210678][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Porter_5_forces_analysis&diff=prev&oldid=110760018][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Technology_strategy&diff=prev&oldid=109718151]. |
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Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a link farm. If you have content to contribute, contribute that. Don't simply direct readers to another site for the useful facts; add useful facts to the article. No need to worry about the blacklist, this currently does not deem that type of action. There are tons of inapropriate links all over Wikipedia, the fact that we haven't gotten around to it, yet, does not mean that we have some obligation to have franteractive.net. You're here to improve Wikipedia -- not just to funnel readers off Wikipedia and onto some other site, right? see [[Wp:el#Links_normally_to_be_avoided|Links normally to be avoided]] [[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 15:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC) |
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a link farm. If you have content to contribute, contribute that. Don't simply direct readers to another site for the useful facts; add useful facts to the article. No need to worry about the blacklist, this currently does not deem that type of action. There are tons of inapropriate links all over Wikipedia, the fact that we haven't gotten around to it, yet, does not mean that we have some obligation to have franteractive.net. You're here to improve Wikipedia -- not just to funnel readers off Wikipedia and onto some other site, right? see [[Wp:el#Links_normally_to_be_avoided|Links normally to be avoided]] [[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 15:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Links with original content improve wikipedia. Why shouldn't we direct people to other sites? Isn't that what the external link feature is for? |
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== This page and protection == |
== This page and protection == |
Revision as of 12:48, 7 March 2007
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Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can
User:Worldcreator1
You included User:Worldcreator1 in your spam warnings as stated at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#SPAM.2Fcommercial website solicitation. As can be seen at the WP:ANI discussion, Worldcreator1 is the one who reported it to WP:ANI in the first place. Are you certain he was adding them and not deleting them? He also has blanking warnings for removing content from Telecommunications Broker. I believe he was trying to remove the content and not add it. Am I missing something? Otherwise, I think you should remove the warning as misplaced. -- JLaTondre 17:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- thanks, Ive replied--Hu12 18:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Belated congrats
Hello. I just wanted to pass on a belated but enthusiastic congratulations on getting the mop. And I am so, so sorry for missing your RfA. I was on my very first Wikibreak of any duration (two weeks), and I just now realized you got promoted while I was gone. Obviously, I know you will make a great admin, and I would have said so had I been around. All the best, Satori Son 15:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
What cha think about the unblock request down yonder at [1]? Looks like you might want to shorten it at least, but it's your call. —Pilotguy contact ground 22:58, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, the IP used was blocked 24 hours, I changed the main account to 48 hrs. Would have let it go if there wasn't a block-dodge involved or the talk page vandalism. --Hu12 23:44, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The spam fighting
I've been away from wiki for ages, but I just wanted to mention that I note the extensive amount of spam finding on the wikiproject spam talk page you've got. Good to see people keeping the spam back, even though I haven't had the time to help out there. Not sure who started it, but I like the use of the adsense ID; that is a great extra correllation on spam sites. Kevin_b_er 04:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Seas
Hi, I added the redlink to Seas (company) at Seas again as I believe that this loudspeaker manufacturer easily meets WP:CORP. This is not the same organization as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SEAS so please discuss before reverting. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 23:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note, and for the distinction between the two. Read elswhere that you plan to take on this article yourself, I Look forward to reading it. --Hu12 13:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Palin
Hi, what was the reason you reverted Himalaya with Michael Palin to an earlier version? See [2]. The older version looked much better to me. Sorry for the rollback btw, I clicked wrong. Cheers, Garion96 (talk) 20:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Error on my part, your correct.--Hu12 21:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, so this was it, I missed that. Good call. Garion96 (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- My first edit made no sense, thanks for letting me know. ;)--Hu12 21:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Why remove this link? It contains an original review. OK it has ads but they are allowed under the TOS -- and excessive is in the eye of the beholder, and as you are not God so you cannot judge! The TOS may need an objective measure, but until then what gives you the right to make the call? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pgrieg (talk • contribs) 12:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC).
- My first edit made no sense, thanks for letting me know. ;)--Hu12 21:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, so this was it, I missed that. Good call. Garion96 (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
re Torrisholme
The Torrisholme article was just prank nonsense, I actually live there, please read the previous article. ````
Comment from Sam Mishra, MBA (MIT Sloan) =
I saw your comments. I am not adding directly any links to franteractive.net. Others might be doing it. For instance, you are doing a dis-service to readers by deleting the link to my Porter's Five Forces article, which others have agreed is useful, since it extends the Analysis to a Buyer-Supplier Matrix. After all, Buyer and Supplier are two of the main themes / forces in Porter's Five Forces. Now, I suggest you check the discussion page on Porter Five Forces, others have agreed that the link is useful. Since you seem to firm in your idea that the link is spam, I suggest you assuage the concerns of other readers who seem to like the article, and think that it should be there. I think I am somewhat qualified to talk on Porter Five Forces, since I did an MBA from MIT, a top five b-school. The nine-grid buyer-supplier matrix is a useful extension to Porter Five Forces, but removing the link will not deter the propagation of knowledge. I do get requests from other authors who want to reference my article and images in their books and publications. What you are doing is clipping the Porter’s Five Forces Article by the wings... in the name of administration. Please oblige with feedback, and also, please enter the discussion on the discussion page on Porter’s Five Forces….Thanks Sam 02:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Avoid editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with See WP:COI.--Hu12 03:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- I understand. I am not adding links to my articles, but if my readers do it, I am not going to say: don't do it! What I am saying is simple: before deleting the link to my Porter Five Forces article which someone else added whom I don't even know, should you not have read the discussion page of that Wikipedia article, since you are an administrator? Are you not doing a dis-service to Wikipedia readers who are looking to understand Porter Five Forces more completely by deleting useful links? I don't see a conflict of interest here in sharing knowledge, rather it is common interest in Porter Five Forces which prompted someone else to add back the link---I did not add that link back after you warned me sometime back in February that you will blacklist my site. What is your blacklist policy? I see much more powerful businesses' links all over Wikipedia. What are you doing about that? Will appreciate your gut reactions. Sam 08:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Apart from the concern of Advertising and conflicts of interest, Blogs are Links normally to be avoided, this has ben mentioned to you by others in the past. Your contributions to wikipedia consist mainly of adding the franteractive.net website and is considered WP:Spam. Looking through your contributions as a whole, the majority seem to be external link related only. See [3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24]. In the recent days you have taken an agressive posture to WP:CANVASS for this links inclusion. see [25][26][27]. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a link farm. If you have content to contribute, contribute that. Don't simply direct readers to another site for the useful facts; add useful facts to the article. No need to worry about the blacklist, this currently does not deem that type of action. There are tons of inapropriate links all over Wikipedia, the fact that we haven't gotten around to it, yet, does not mean that we have some obligation to have franteractive.net. You're here to improve Wikipedia -- not just to funnel readers off Wikipedia and onto some other site, right? see Links normally to be avoided Hu12 15:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Links with original content improve wikipedia. Why shouldn't we direct people to other sites? Isn't that what the external link feature is for?
This page and protection
Since you are blocking anons, please unprotect this page, to make it easier for those you warn to contact you. Thanks, Prodego talk 03:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't subscribe to fractured discussions, Since my warnings are on those pages I reply there. Blocked anons can't discuss any where else but their own talk. I may consider in the near future, however I am not comfortable with that now. thank ou for your consideration.--Hu12 03:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hu12 is bossy and narrow-minded
Hu12 says we should discuss before editing the page. But he didn't discuss when he removes a large sum of contents. How funny he is! He uses his own power so he can control the page at his own will. There is a rule which says you should explain before you revert. Improve it not just revert. Did he follow THE RULES? No. The only thing he contributed is to destroy, so I think he should be banned too in this case. I know I am going to be banned too since I have pointed out his evildoing. Ha... ha... # Happyzone See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Brokers — Happyzone (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 07:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
- May want to first read WP:CIV. Wikipedia is not a soapbox, or a vehicle for propaganda and advertising. Therefore, Wikipedia articles are not:
- Propaganda or advocacy of any kind. Statememnts such as Interactive Brokers offers most attractive interest rates in the industry and the sections that were removed did no attempt to report objectively with a neutral point of view. You might wish to go to Usenet or start a blog if you wish to advertise or solicit the merits of your favorite views.
- Advertising. Sections added to Interactive Brokers promoting commission rates, trading discounts, attractive interest rates or account minimums are inpropriate for inclusion and unencyclopedic. This has wide acceptance among editors and is considered a standard that all users should follow. Please note Wikipedia does not endorse any businesses and it does not Allow advertising.
- Please refrain from repeatedly adding promotional material to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. --Hu12 14:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Protection for my user page
You protected my user page about two weeks ago and I think I'm ready to have my page unprotected. There haven't been many vengeful vandals in the last few days. Gdo01 09:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
321books not a spam or scraper site
321books is not a spam site, it is not a scraper site, as you have accused it of being. It uses Adsense, but so do many sites linked to by Wikipedia. There is no objective measure for excessive advertising, so how can you judge this site to be using excessive advertising? Have you read any of the pages, or found any original text which they have scraped? (You won't, all the pages are themselves original!) Shouldn't the removing of links be down to subject editors? Admins, it seems to me, haven't the time or knowledge to justify link removal, although they can start a discussion. If you suspect a site is a scraper then you should investigate by searching for text, not just guessing. Although I guess by blacklisting 321books you got me to point out the facts to you, which given the demands on your time, is perhaps the way it has to be [sigh]. Anyway, in the cause of justice, could I appeal to you to have 321books taken off the blacklist Pgrieg 12:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)