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Hi, saw your request at the India project page. I am on the WP app & it won't let me post there (or any other project talk page). I have tweaked the caste mention in the early years bit of the article to reflect common usage. Obviously, revert if inappropriate! I haven't checked the rest of the article but if there are any other queries re caste there then perhaps ping me. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 11:58, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
Hi, saw your request at the India project page. I am on the WP app & it won't let me post there (or any other project talk page). I have tweaked the caste mention in the early years bit of the article to reflect common usage. Obviously, revert if inappropriate! I haven't checked the rest of the article but if there are any other queries re caste there then perhaps ping me. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 11:58, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:Seems ok. Thanks! -[[User:MPGuy2824|MPGuy2824]] ([[User talk:MPGuy2824|talk]]) 07:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Georg Kawerau
Hello! I noticed you moved my article on Georg Kawerau into the drafts, claiming it lacked notability. To this, I say a few things. First, the article exists in several other languages, and clearly it's notable enough for them; given the important contributions the archeologist made to Greek archeology, information on him ought to be accessible in English too. Second, the article is NOT unsourced; there IS a bibliography, and while sources don't correspond to specific lines (which admittedly is unideal), I lack access to the original hard-copy sources since I'm translating other articles, and didn't write it originally. Third, Georg Kawerau is linked in several other articles, and has an entire section devoted to him in the feature article Panagiotis Kavvadias, so clearly he's notable. While the article can be improved, it's better to have a quite decent amount of knowledge accessible to English speakers than to have nothing at all. Let the perfect not be the enemy of the good. We both seek to make Wikipedia better and information more freely accessible; deletion of a perfectly fine article serves neither of our interests. Please respond on my talk page (because that's where I check). If you don't, I'll be restoring the article. Thank you. Gug01 (talk) 02:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'll respond on your talk page per your request. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
2008 WhatsOnStage awards page
Hi there, you tagged the page I created as needing more references, but I have just copied the model of the Awards page for 2022, 2019, 2018 etc. which only have one reference to the awards page as well. Why should the page I created be different? Can you explain? Thank you so much Musicalge3k5 (talk) 12:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Musicalge3k5: If you look at the page history of 2008 WhatsOnStage Awards, you'll notice that I added the unreferenced tag to it when it had 0 references. Then you added a ref, following which another reviewer correctly changed the tag to a more-citations-needed tag. Even lists on Wikipedia need to follow notability guidelines (WP:NLIST in this case). Adding 1 or 2 more references would help the article. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:43, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello
Hello @MPGuy2824
I just want to let you know that there are no self published sources on List of actions by Major Singh Johal. You had marked this page as having self published sources. It was just sources whose publisher I didn’t add, but now I have added the publisher to all sources on the page.
Best wishes CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- pptesting.in still seems weird to me. Also, can you add the citations to the individual table rows. There is no particuar need for a separate column for the sources. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Also, if there were dates (even rough ones) to the various rows it would make them easy to refute/confirm. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:23, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- I will work on that later today or tomorrow. For now I have added some categories. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:29, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Off the top of my head most of the actions happened in 1988-1991 CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 After digging / getting others to dig through old punjabi newspapers I find discussed in Punjabi newspapers and searching online I come across very little. It is mentioned in big Punjab Newspapers like Ajit but nothing in english other than a detail here or there. Maybe through more digging I can find something. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:48, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Through more digging not a whole lot turned up. I will add all the Punjabi newspapers, and the few english sources to the page soon. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 04:18, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- According to this he was 35 in 2017, which means he was born around 1982. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:53, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Jagtar Singh Johal is not the same as Major Singh Johal who the article is about. Major Singh Johal was killed in 1991. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 04:57, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I added many sources. I still have more to add. Tell me what you think? :) CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 05:09, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Many of the sources (like the hook2book ones) aren't checkable online.
- Wikipedia is not supposed to be used as a reference (Ajit newspaper)
- I've checked a few of the google books links at random. Unable to get a search hit for Johal on the ones that i tried. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- 1. The reason why it isn’t checkable online is simply because it is in Punjabi. Punjabi books aren’t easily available online.
- 2. Wikipedia isn’t being cited. Ajit newspaper is being cited. I just link to the Ajit wikipedia page since the issue I am talking about isn’t available digitally as I have it physically.
- 3. They are used for the number of casualties. locations etc. Johal’s involvement is cited by other sources. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 05:39, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, there is no particular need to ping me on my own talk page. I get notifications of changes/additions anyway. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I just wasn’t sure if you had seen the message. Is there any other problems with the page? I have addressed the ones you raised. :)
- Hey, there is no particular need to ping me on my own talk page. I get notifications of changes/additions anyway. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- The Ajit paper link will have to be split into separate references for each table row with a separate date and article title for each. Consider putting a 2-3 sentence biographical paragraph in the lead of this article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay will do. One thing the article titles are in Punjabi so should I put punjabi there or a translation? CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:29, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- You can add both. title in punjabi, lang=pa, trans-title in english in the cite template. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Should I tell you when I am done or is there no need? CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- No, that's ok. I've tried to verify stuff, but nothing seems available online, as you said. Maybe a reviewer with access to the old copies of the newspaper would be able to review the article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Should I tell you when I am done or is there no need? CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- You can add both. title in punjabi, lang=pa, trans-title in english in the cite template. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Okay will do. One thing the article titles are in Punjabi so should I put punjabi there or a translation? CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:29, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 After digging / getting others to dig through old punjabi newspapers I find discussed in Punjabi newspapers and searching online I come across very little. It is mentioned in big Punjab Newspapers like Ajit but nothing in english other than a detail here or there. Maybe through more digging I can find something. CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:48, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Also, if there were dates (even rough ones) to the various rows it would make them easy to refute/confirm. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:23, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Micronesian football draftification
You recently drafitfied Palau national football B team and Yap football team, which were created by the same editor. I suggest you also take a look at Chuuk football team and Pohnpei football team, which were also created by them and suffer from the exact same problems. 〜 Festucalex • talk 05:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- I've been told (and i agree) that the same person draftifying a lot of articles is a bit hounding to new editors. I've messaged their talk page with a suggestion to start drafts in draftspace using the article wizard. Hope that works! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Question from 1undisputed (10:23, 7 July 2023)
Hi, feels great to have you as a mentor here on Wikipedia.. I've gone through series of demo videos on how to edit and add articles on Wikipedia. This Is just me saying “Hi” to you and surely, I'll be back here as soon as I need help. Thanks boss --1undisputed (talk) 10:23, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- @1undisputed: Hi back! Welcome to wikipedia editing. Try not to be overwhelmed by all the information. Start with simple things and go on from there. I would recommend completing Wikipedia:TWA. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:55, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Reviewing of my article
I tried something different this time; wrote a lot of Politician biography, but this time its an IPS officer. Can you please review as i can't wait to get it appear at mainspace. See Chandan Kushwaha.-Admantine123 (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Admantine123: To meet WP:GNG you need to show 2-3 secondary, reliable sources that cover the subject in-depth. I checked the first 3 references in the article and they don't meet the in-depth criteria. What according to you are the three best sources in the article?
- Thanks for your work in creating the MLA articles, btw. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Though, detail source about his personal life is not available as of now, but i created it on the basis of Notability criteria for officeholders. The criteria of significant role (He is currently Commandant of Home Gaurds, a post equal in rank to DG) and significant media coverage is fulfilled. He was involved in unearthing "Bodhgaya serial blasts", arrest of JDU MLA Anant Singh and is covered regularly by the media. He is also not known for WP:1EVENT. I have seen articles of many bureaucrats here on mainspace which are written on same basis. I recently nominated one of them for delition thinking what you are saying, but it was saved on criteria i have listed above. Talking about this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balmiki Prasad Singh, similarly Abhayanand, Rajesh Kumar (IPS), Anuj Sharma (IPS) and many more also exists, here also no source tells about his personal life in depth and his article is based on his initiatives only and sources are also backing the same. Anyways thanks, let see what any other new page reviewer thinks.-Admantine123 (talk) 04:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- The only AfD that you linked to is where the subject passes NPOL due to his governor stint. Local heads of police would need to pass GNG. Anyway, like you said, another new page reviewer can take a look at it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Though, detail source about his personal life is not available as of now, but i created it on the basis of Notability criteria for officeholders. The criteria of significant role (He is currently Commandant of Home Gaurds, a post equal in rank to DG) and significant media coverage is fulfilled. He was involved in unearthing "Bodhgaya serial blasts", arrest of JDU MLA Anant Singh and is covered regularly by the media. He is also not known for WP:1EVENT. I have seen articles of many bureaucrats here on mainspace which are written on same basis. I recently nominated one of them for delition thinking what you are saying, but it was saved on criteria i have listed above. Talking about this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balmiki Prasad Singh, similarly Abhayanand, Rajesh Kumar (IPS), Anuj Sharma (IPS) and many more also exists, here also no source tells about his personal life in depth and his article is based on his initiatives only and sources are also backing the same. Anyways thanks, let see what any other new page reviewer thinks.-Admantine123 (talk) 04:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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Phoolan Devi
Hi, saw your request at the India project page. I am on the WP app & it won't let me post there (or any other project talk page). I have tweaked the caste mention in the early years bit of the article to reflect common usage. Obviously, revert if inappropriate! I haven't checked the rest of the article but if there are any other queries re caste there then perhaps ping me. - Sitush (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- Seems ok. Thanks! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)