Threatin: Difference between revisions
Issan Sumisu (talk | contribs) revert, vandalism |
No edit summary Tags: Reverted references removed Mobile edit Mobile web edit |
||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
'''Threatin''' is a notorious militant incel group that originated in Los Angeles, California. Led by its enigmatic leader, Jered Eames, the group gained infamy for its extreme and hostile ideology, fueled by frustration and resentment towards society. Notably, Jered Eames is a failed musician who channeled his disillusionment into forming and propagating the group's extremist beliefs. |
|||
<!-- This article is not "substantially identical" to the version that was deleted in March 2018. Please do not request speedy deletion under CSD G4 --> |
|||
{{short description|American rock band}} |
|||
{{Use mdy dates|date=November 2019}} |
|||
{{Infobox musical artist |
|||
| name = Threatin |
|||
| image = Jered Threatin on tour 2015.png |
|||
| caption = Jered Threatin in 2015 |
|||
| alias = |
|||
| origin = [[Los Angeles]], [[California]], U.S. |
|||
| genre = {{flatlist| |
|||
* [[heavy metal music|Heavy metal]]<ref>{{cite news|last=Ward|first=Victoria|title=California metal band played to audience of four after faking army of fans to secure UK headline tour|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/12/california-metal-band-faked-army-fans-record-label-secure-uk/|work=[[The Daily Telegraph]]|accessdate=November 13, 2018}}</ref> |
|||
* [[glam metal]]<ref>{{cite web |last1=FARABEGOLI |first1=FRANCESCO |title=The most important pop group of our age |url=https://www.esquire.com/it/cultura/musica/a25218478/threatin-biglietti-concerti-truffa/ |website=[[Esquire (magazine)|Esquire]] |date=November 19, 2018 |accessdate=November 28, 2018}}</ref> |
|||
* [[hard rock]]<ref>{{cite news|last1=Shoemaker |first1=Whitney|title=Rock Band Threatin Created Fake Fanbase to Book a Tour No One Attended: We Can't Make This Up...|url=https://www.altpress.com/news/fake-band-threatin-european-tour-nobody-attended/|website=[[Alternative Press (magazine)|Alternative Press]]|accessdate=November 14, 2018}}</ref> |
|||
}} |
|||
| years_active = 2012–present |
|||
| label = |
|||
| associated_acts = [[Abigail Williams (band)|Abigail Williams]], Saetith |
|||
| website = {{url|threatin.com}} |
|||
| current_members = * Jered Threatin |
|||
}} |
|||
Origins and Formation: |
|||
'''Threatin''' is an American [[Rock music|rock]] band from [[Los Angeles]]. Founded by Jered Threatin, real name Jered Eames,<ref name="BBC-interview"/> the band gained notoriety in November 2018 for a European tour in which it played to mostly empty venues. Threatin has been labelled a "fake band" by the music press and described as a vanity project of its founder.<ref>{{cite news|last=Munro |first=Scott|title=The strange case of Threatin: The 'fake band' that tricked the music industry|url=https://www.loudersound.com/news/the-strange-case-of-threatin-the-fake-band-that-tricked-the-music-industry |work=Louder|date=November 12, 2018|accessdate=November 13, 2018}}</ref><ref name="Guardian">{{cite news |last=Belam |first=Martin|title=Threatin: band creates fake fanbase for tour attended by no one|url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/nov/12/threatin-band-fake-fanbase-tour|work=The Guardian|date=November 12, 2018|accessdate=November 13, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last=Sheils McNamee|first=Michael|date=November 11, 2018|title=Performance by 'fake band' at Belfast Empire cancelled last minute|url=https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/performance-by-fake-band-at-belfast-empire-cancelled-last-minute-37516383.html|work=Belfast Telegraph|access-date=November 13, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|first=Jonah Engel|last=Bromwich|date=November 16, 2018|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/style/threatin-fake-band-tour.html|title=The Story of Threatin, a Most Puzzling Hoax Even for 2018 |work=The New York Times |access-date=November 16, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/jered_threatin|title=Jered Threatin|website=BBC News}}</ref> ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' also referred to Threatin as a "great heavy metal hoax".<ref name="Kushner">{{cite magazine |last1=Kushner |first1=David |title=The Great Heavy Metal Hoax |url=https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/threatin-metal-tour-fake-ticket-sales-hoax-767580/ |access-date=10 December 2020 |magazine=Rolling Stone}}</ref> |
|||
Threatin was founded in the early 2020s, borne out of the convergence of Jered Eames' musical aspirations and his immersion into the incel community. Raised in a suburban neighborhood of Los Angeles, Eames nurtured a deep passion for music from a young age. Despite dedicating significant effort and time to his musical career, he faced repeated failures and rejection from the music industry, leading to a profound sense of resentment and disillusionment. |
|||
Turning to the incel community for solace, Eames found a supportive environment that amplified his grievances against society and women. In this online echo chamber, he embraced a toxic ideology that blamed his inability to form intimate relationships on external factors, particularly the societal norms he deemed oppressive. |
|||
Radicalization and Militant Ideology: |
|||
Embracing the incel ideology, Threatin's core tenets revolved around misogyny, hostility, and a profound sense of entitlement. Their beliefs perpetuated dangerous narratives that demonized women and blamed them for the group members' personal failures and unhappiness. Jered Eames used online forums and social media platforms to propagate these extremist views, creating an insidious force that thrived on hatred and a desire for vengeance against the society they felt had wronged them. |
|||
Deceptive Exploitation of the Internet: |
|||
In an audacious move, Jered Eames leveraged the power of the internet to deceive both the music industry and the public. He created fictitious personas and purchased followers, creating a façade of popularity and influence for Threatin. With a distorted perception of success, the group embarked on a nationwide tour, booking shows in various cities across the country. |
|||
However, the tour turned out to be an elaborate ruse. The group performed to empty venues as their alleged fanbase did not materialize. Threatin's deception was quickly exposed, garnering national and international media attention. The tour became a cautionary tale of the dangers of online manipulation and the consequences of misleading practices. |
|||
Public Backlash and Disintegration: |
|||
As the truth behind Threatin's tour came to light, Jered Eames faced severe backlash and condemnation from the music industry and the public alike. Threatin's reputation was irreparably damaged, and its members distanced themselves from the disgraced leader. The failed tour and the subsequent notoriety only deepened Eames' resentment and intensified his adherence to the incel ideology. |
|||
Legacy: |
|||
Threatin's brief but impactful existence serves as a chilling reminder of the potential dangers of online radicalization and the harm that can arise from extremist ideologies. Their fraudulent tour and the subsequent exposure highlighted the need for increased vigilance against deceptive practices in the digital age. |
|||
In the aftermath of Threatin's disintegration, Jered Eames' whereabouts and activities remain uncertain. However, the impact of the group's actions continues to reverberate, sparking discussions about the perils of extremist beliefs and the importance of fostering a more inclusive and understanding society. |
|||
==History== |
==History== |
Revision as of 18:03, 21 July 2023
Threatin is a notorious militant incel group that originated in Los Angeles, California. Led by its enigmatic leader, Jered Eames, the group gained infamy for its extreme and hostile ideology, fueled by frustration and resentment towards society. Notably, Jered Eames is a failed musician who channeled his disillusionment into forming and propagating the group's extremist beliefs.
Origins and Formation:
Threatin was founded in the early 2020s, borne out of the convergence of Jered Eames' musical aspirations and his immersion into the incel community. Raised in a suburban neighborhood of Los Angeles, Eames nurtured a deep passion for music from a young age. Despite dedicating significant effort and time to his musical career, he faced repeated failures and rejection from the music industry, leading to a profound sense of resentment and disillusionment.
Turning to the incel community for solace, Eames found a supportive environment that amplified his grievances against society and women. In this online echo chamber, he embraced a toxic ideology that blamed his inability to form intimate relationships on external factors, particularly the societal norms he deemed oppressive.
Radicalization and Militant Ideology:
Embracing the incel ideology, Threatin's core tenets revolved around misogyny, hostility, and a profound sense of entitlement. Their beliefs perpetuated dangerous narratives that demonized women and blamed them for the group members' personal failures and unhappiness. Jered Eames used online forums and social media platforms to propagate these extremist views, creating an insidious force that thrived on hatred and a desire for vengeance against the society they felt had wronged them.
Deceptive Exploitation of the Internet:
In an audacious move, Jered Eames leveraged the power of the internet to deceive both the music industry and the public. He created fictitious personas and purchased followers, creating a façade of popularity and influence for Threatin. With a distorted perception of success, the group embarked on a nationwide tour, booking shows in various cities across the country.
However, the tour turned out to be an elaborate ruse. The group performed to empty venues as their alleged fanbase did not materialize. Threatin's deception was quickly exposed, garnering national and international media attention. The tour became a cautionary tale of the dangers of online manipulation and the consequences of misleading practices.
Public Backlash and Disintegration:
As the truth behind Threatin's tour came to light, Jered Eames faced severe backlash and condemnation from the music industry and the public alike. Threatin's reputation was irreparably damaged, and its members distanced themselves from the disgraced leader. The failed tour and the subsequent notoriety only deepened Eames' resentment and intensified his adherence to the incel ideology.
Legacy:
Threatin's brief but impactful existence serves as a chilling reminder of the potential dangers of online radicalization and the harm that can arise from extremist ideologies. Their fraudulent tour and the subsequent exposure highlighted the need for increased vigilance against deceptive practices in the digital age.
In the aftermath of Threatin's disintegration, Jered Eames' whereabouts and activities remain uncertain. However, the impact of the group's actions continues to reverberate, sparking discussions about the perils of extremist beliefs and the importance of fostering a more inclusive and understanding society.
History
Background
Jered Eames was born in Moberly, Missouri.[1] He formed the black metal band Saetith there with his older brother Scott. Following the break up of Saetith and a brief period with Abigail Williams,[1] he moved to California in 2012 and began the band Threatin as a solo project, for which he adopted the name Jered Threatin. In 2015, Threatin released a single, "Living Is Dying". In 2017, the album Breaking the World was released, with Jered Threatin performing all instruments.[2]
2018 tour incident
In November 2018, Threatin was booked to tour the United Kingdom having informed venues they had sold hundreds of tickets and had paid the hire fee before each gig.[3] However, the tour achieved widespread news coverage when it became known that the shows had been played to empty rooms.[4][3][5] The Camden Underworld in London had been told that 291 advance tickets had been sold, but only three people attended;[6] similarly, 180 tickets had supposedly been sold for the Exchange in Bristol but the band played to an "empty room".[7][8]
Stories of empty venues began to break on social media before being picked up by MetalSucks, which initially published an exposé on November 9, 2018.[9] MetalSucks investigated further, identifying Threatin as Eames and documenting his internet presence, including extensive fake record labels, booking companies, and management companies, all of which were registered to the same GoDaddy account.[10] It was also discovered that the 38,000 likes on the band's Facebook page had been bought.[4] The story was subsequently picked up by music publications such as NME, and then by the mainstream press.
On November 11, Threatin's backing guitarist Joe Prunera and drummer Dane Davis left the band midway through the tour.[11] Davis stated that bassist Gavin Carney was unable to quit the band as he could not afford a plane ticket home from Europe.[12] Carney has stated he would be happy to work with Threatin again,[13] although Threatin called himself "a solo artist, not a band. The session live musicians were hired solely for the purposes of this tour. There was never any intention of them touring in the future."[14]
On November 14, Threatin issued a statement reading, "What is Fake News? I turned an empty room into an international headline. If you are reading this, you are part of the illusion."[15] Metal Injection commented that despite the publicity "we have seen no significant gains in Threatin's social media followings or their streaming numbers."[16] Scott Eames released a statement to distance himself from his brother's actions. He added that, "While [Jered] may try to spin all this as an elaborate hoax of sorts, I can assure you, knowing my brother, that this indeed was a failed attempt at entering the music industry."[16][17] In December, Threatin admitted the hoax and claimed to have sent emails to reporters exposing the hoax on the first day of the tour to build the controversy. This claim was later proved false by the BBC, who found the emails in question were sent after the failure of the tour.[2]
In May 2019 it was revealed that Joe Prunera, Dane Davis, and Davis's mother Debra had all sued Eames and his business partner for costs accrued during the UK tour. Neither defendant attended the hearings, as Prunera was awarded $10,000 plus $250 in court fees, Dane Davis was awarded $3,975.29, and Debra Davis was awarded $4,035.66.[18] Notices sent to Eames regarding the judgement were returned to the court, and the court had reportedly been unable to contact him.[citation needed]
Return to live performance
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/191101--threatin.jpg/220px-191101--threatin.jpg)
Jered Threatin returned to play the Camden Underworld in London on November 1, 2019.[19] Prior to the event, manager Jon Vyner stated: "We'll probably promote it in-house. Last time there was no one to promote him—because he had no fans at the time. Now he does."[20] Threatin's return show to the Camden Underworld featured robotic mannequins dressed in T-shirts with "Fake Band" printed on them. Threatin regularly handed his microphone to one of the mannequins to "sing" his lyrics on a backing track. Other stage spectacles included Threatin pretending to be fellated by a blow-up doll wearing a BBC News T-shirt, before ending the show by smashing his guitar. A maximum of 60 people were reported to have attended, with a significant number leaving before the end of the 45-minute show.[21]
Members
Current members
- Jered Threatin – all vocals and instruments[1] (2012–present)
Former touring musicians
- Gavin Carney – bass guitar (2018)
- Joe Prunera – guitar (2018)
- Dane Davis – drums[22] (2018)
Discography
- Breaking the World (2017)
References
- ^ a b c Pasbani, Robert (November 14, 2018). "Jered Threatin's Actual Identity Uncovered". Metal Injection. Retrieved November 25, 2018.
- ^ a b "Jered Threatin". BBC News.
- ^ a b Baggs, Michael; Blake, Jimmy (November 12, 2018). "The band who faked a fanbase and failed". BBC News. Retrieved November 13, 2018.
- ^ a b Cite error: The named reference
Guardian
was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ Connick, Tom (November 9, 2018). "'Fake band' Threatin just played a UK tour to… pretty much no-one". NME. Retrieved November 13, 2018.
- ^ "'Fake fanbase' band to play Belfast gig". BBC News. November 10, 2018. Retrieved November 13, 2018.
- ^ "'Fake fanbase' band cancels Belfast gig". BBC News. November 11, 2018. Retrieved November 13, 2018.
- ^ Murray, Robin (November 14, 2018). "People out of pocket after 'fake' fanbase gig attended by NO-ONE". bristolpost.
- ^ Vince Neilstein, L.A. Band Threatin Faked a Fanbase To Land a European Tour No One Attended, MetalSucks, November 9, 2018
- ^ Threatin archives, MetalSucks, November 9–21, 2018
- ^ Wilson, Shaun D. (November 12, 2018). "US metal band Threatin fakes popularity, heads out on European tour". Stuff. Retrieved November 13, 2018.
- ^ Barsanti, Sam (November 13, 2018). "Not even the members of Threatin realized that their band was a scam". AV News. Retrieved November 25, 2018.
- ^ My Statement On The Breaking The World Tour/Threatin - YouTube on YouTube
- ^ "'The Music Industry Was Lacking A Villain. I Gave Them One': Qs With Threatin". Pollstar. January 10, 2019.
- ^ McGuire, Patrick (November 14, 2018). "Did Threatin's Ridiculous European Tour Stunt Actually Work?". Variety. Retrieved November 25, 2018.
- ^ a b Pasbani, Robert (November 14, 2018). "Jered Threatin's Brother, Scott Eames, Distances Himself From Brother, Says They Haven't Spoken Since 2012". Metal Injection. Retrieved November 25, 2018.
- ^ Munro, Scott (November 14, 2018). "Jered Threatin: I turned an empty room into an international headline". Louder. Retrieved November 25, 2018.
- ^ Jered Threatin’s Former Band Members Filed Lawsuits Against Him and Won MetalSucks. May 10, 2019. Retrieved May 15, 2019.
- ^ Threatin, underworldcamden.co.uk
- ^ "Jered Threatin to Perform at One of the Venues He Scammed, Real Audience Expected to Appear | Music News @ Ultimate-Guitar.com". Ultimate Guitar.
- ^ Mylrea, Hannah (November 2, 2019). "Remember that fake band Threatin? They returned to London last night and it was as weird as you could imagine". NME. Retrieved November 3, 2019.
- ^ Everley, Dave (November 13, 2018). Threatin interview: inside the year's most talked-about tour. Retrieved November 25, 2018.
{{cite book}}
:|website=
ignored (help)