Talk:PlayStation 2

Screenshots

• God of War needs enter. IGN: 9.8, Game Informer Magazine: 10 Mateusc 01:54, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NPOV?

I think this article skews ever so slightly to a pro-PS2 POV.

It was not until late 2001 that the Microsoft Xbox became the second console with DVD support, although playing DVD-Video titles on Xbox requires the purchase of an additional module (containing decoder software and a remote control). However most reviews claim that PS2's DVD capabilities are still top of line the line considering when it was released even if XBox has sharper imaging.

While it's not a bad idea to mention competing consoles, it seems like the writer is trying to defend the PS2's capabilities against the Xbox.

The last sentence was reversed a few days ago from: "Most reviews claim the PS2's DVD support to be mediocre at best." In my understanding, mediocre is a better description. Didn't Sony improve the DVD support in newer versions of the console? --Mrwojo 22:31, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I don't think that that there should be any mention of quality at all unless it is amazingly good or horrendously bad, otherwise you'll just have far too much disagreement, since I don't think that's the case here, I'd just recommend removing any mention of the DVD playback quality and just make the statement that the PS2 is capable of DVD playback, and maybe that it was an early adopter of this feature. Also, I think that the text about the Xbox DVD playback should be removed entirel (and maybe placed in the Xbox article) as it has no real bearing on the PS2. Cvaneg 19:20, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

But the PS2 is famed for its bad DVD playback. This has to do with several discs failing to function (view or navigate) properly on the player. It is practically the only comment you ever see besides, though more often beside, "it can also play dvd's". --blades 01:37, May 11, 2004 (UTC)

backwards compatibility?

I'm not so sure that the comment regarding backwards compatability being an important selling point is correct. According to some research (admittedly carried out by microsoft) only 10% of PS2 owners list backwards compatability as an important selling point. Reference: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/22/ms_xbox2_backwards_compat/

Mini PS2

Is there a seperate article on the new mini PS2, or is this something that needs addressing here?

It is still called PS2, so this should be the right place. And the article already contains information about the new PS2 model (SCPH-70000), it just needs a picture.

Ok. But what about the dimensions etc. Being mentioned under the specification?

Yes, why not? --Tjansen 23:03, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Can someone check the copyright on the picture that has appeared on here of it? Estel 19:39, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

To disk or not to disk

The following paragraph was removed

The new slim PS2 would be a problem for certain game such as Final Fantasy XI which was released on a 40GB internal hard disk designed for the original thick PS2 console. Since the software was also published by SONY, it is unclear what SONY marketing direction is regarding the internal hard disk.

However, I think it is a relevant topic for Playstation 2. The Final Fantasy XI game was released by SONY Software on a 40GB internal HDD. However, SONY dropped the harddisk from the new slim console. i.e. SONY's software and hardware division is going in opposite direction. If the software were not released by SONY, then this would have been irrelevant. Kowloonese 23:45, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Fair point perhaps, I removed it mainly because of poor wording...(no offence) the FF11 reference was retained because it was a valid point. Could re-add the "confused" strategy thing; but I was wondering if it was the reader's resposnsibility to work out that the strategy seemed "confused" Estel 10:28, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

Modchip

I believe there could be a reference to the purpose of the modchip mentioned in the article. My understanding is that a PS2 modified with the modchip allows you to play titles that are copied, thus getting around the proprietary PS2 game format. These modchips require knowledge of soldering techniques. However, PS2 systems with the modchip already present are available on Ebay. --Gbeeker 07:04, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I just found the modchip article and created the reference. It contains all that I would have added and much more. --Gbeeker 07:15, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

PS9 - Teleport Yours Today

PlayStation 9

A North American advertising campaign for the Sony PlayStation 2 featured the "PS9", the fictional far-future successor to the PS2.

According to the advertisement, PS9 was released "new for 2078", and featured electronic spores that tapped directly into a person's adrenal gland, improved retinal scanning, a mind control system, holographic surround vision, and telepathic personal music. The fictional system came in a small translucent sphere that, when opened, would release the spores and begin the gaming experience. PS9 is apparently an example of biotechnology.

Note that if the current five-year cycle for consoles was continued, the PS9 would actually be launched around the year 2035, rather than the 2078 of the commercial.

Method Studios, the special effects house behind the advert, has placed the commercial online.

Reviews of the commercial

• Sony heralds biotech in PlayStation 9 (ZDnet Australia)
• Noël 2078 : Playstation 9, la pub qui tue : l'intégrale ! (OverGame.COM) (French)
• PlayStation2 Introduced to China; PlayStation9 Sales Winding Down in Japan (UC:The MQ)
• 未来型ゲーム機PlayStation 9の機能 (drk7.jp) (Japanese)
• A Surreal Trio

VFD of PS9

This article, PS9, is undergoing VFD at this time, 02:30, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC). It should probably be merged into the PS2 article.

• The article was deleted, here is the archived discussion: Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/PS9.

Removed MGS: VR Missions reference.

I removed the statement that Metal Gear Solid: VR missions fails to run on the PS2. I have that game and it runs perfectly every time.

"Two extra levels of vibration"

A comment in the article regarding the controller. My understanding of the DS/DS2 controllers is that they just spin the motors at different speeds to get different vibration effects, so I don't really understand this comment. Could someone explain? Sockatume 22:27, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

News from Mar 28, 2005 says that SONY was ordered by a US Federal judge to pay $90 million in damage to a California company called Immersion for patent violation of the vibration features used in many of its games. The order also require SONY to stop shipment of the Playstation console with such feature. SONY is appealling and they plan to continue console shipment while the case is in appeal. Some also pointed out Microsoft settled similar case out of court with millions of dollars. Should this kind of information added to the article? It seems to be major event regarding the game console. 67.117.82.1 00:16, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so, it's a relatively minor patent infringement case (it's $90M or less against nearly $20 billion in hardware revenue. If the case is settled a note might be added.