Talk:2023 Atlantic hurricane season: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Revision as of 20:35, 2 November 2023

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 2023 Atlantic hurricane season article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2: 7 days

Weather: Tropical / Atlantic C‑class Mid‑importance

	Weather portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Weather, which collaborates on weather and related subjects on Wikipedia. To participate, help improve this article or visit the project page for details. Articles Requested Project Resources Become a Member Project Talk Assessment A-Class Alerts WeatherWikipedia:WikiProject WeatherTemplate:WikiProject WeatherWeather articles
C	This article has been rated as C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Tropical cyclones portal This article is supported by WikiProject Tropical cyclones (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by the Atlantic hurricane work group (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is related to a current event.

Section sizes

Section size for 2023 Atlantic hurricane season (37 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	7,783	7,783
Seasonal forecasts	16,340	21,217
Pre-season forecasts	2,848	2,848
Mid-season forecasts	2,029	2,029
Seasonal summary	3,545	23,569
Background	8,710	8,710
Early activity	3,889	3,889
Peak to late activity	7,425	7,425
Systems	13	110,951
Unnamed subtropical storm	4,257	4,257
Tropical Storm Arlene	4,573	4,573
Tropical Storm Bret	5,716	5,716
Tropical Storm Cindy	4,513	4,513
Hurricane Don	4,814	4,814
Tropical Storm Gert	5,026	5,026
Tropical Storm Emily	2,656	2,656
Hurricane Franklin	6,105	6,105
Tropical Storm Harold	8,028	8,028
Hurricane Idalia	6,589	6,589
Tropical Storm Jose	4,885	4,885
Tropical Storm Katia	2,201	2,201
Hurricane Lee	7,460	7,460
Hurricane Margot	4,442	4,442
Hurricane Nigel	7,579	7,579
Tropical Storm Ophelia	7,918	7,918
Tropical Storm Philippe	6,908	6,908
Tropical Storm Rina	3,952	3,952
Tropical Storm Sean	2,444	2,444
Hurricane Tammy	5,471	5,471
Tropical Depression Twenty-One	2,076	2,076
Other system	3,325	3,325
Storm names	2,194	2,194
Season effects	4,645	4,645
See also	676	676
Notes	34	34
References	30	30
External links	362	362
Total	171,461	171,461

view · edit

Frequently asked questions

Q1: Why are we counting the unnamed subtropical storm as a named storm?

A1: Even though it wasn't given a name like Arlene, it was functionally the same as any other named tropical or subtropical storm.

Q2: When can a storm get its own article?

A2: A storm qualifies for a standalone article when it becomes sufficiently notable. This usually occurs after a storm produces significant land impacts. For more information, see Wikipedia:Notability (weather)#Tropical cyclones. We also cannot predict if an invest will be notable per Wikipedia:Crystal ball.

Q3: Why is Gert put before Emily and Franklin?

A3: Gert formed a day before Emily and Franklin and was classified as Tropical Depression Six by the National Hurricane Center (NHC) because it was the sixth tropical cyclone to form during the 2023 season, and we follow the NHC practice of ordering systems by order of formation, not strictly alphabetically.

If the remnants of 21 regenerate in the Pacific, will it be mentioned?

Would they count as the same or separate systems and would it be mentioned despite them being in two different basins? 2605:8D80:404:9D6:CC8E:5FD2:87EC:EE54 (talk) 12:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They will most likely be two separate systems since the NHC explicitly mentioned that TD 21 is only part of it. Probably won't be mentioned since it wouldn't be a direct regeneration. Noah, AA^Talk 12:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, like we have Hurricane Agatha last year that indirectly regenrated into Alex 69.211.218.207 (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per Amanda and Cristobal and how it was mentioned in their respective season articles, yes. Now, I would make sure if the NHC states they are dustinct to mention that, such as the following from Amanda's section: "The remnants of the system moved northward into the Bay of Campeche and redeveloped into the Atlantic's Tropical Storm Cristobal." Just be careful to follow the terminology the NHC uses. DarkSide830 (talk) 21:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

According to the NHC, the broad area of low pressure now over the eastern Pacific is only partially related to the remnants of TD21; therefore the pertinent season articles are: Hurricane Agatha and Tropical Storm Alex (2022), not Tropical storms Amanda and Cristobal. Drdpw (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2023 is already tied as the fourth most active Atlantic hurricane season

Should we wait until December? According to Ontario-based weather news channel The Weather Network along with WPDE-TV (ABC 15 News), this season is currently ranked as the fourth most active hurricane season in the North Atlantic basin.

Maybe somewhere nearby the info box it could be stated that "Due to these abnormal circumstances for an El Niño, it is currently the fourth most active Atlantic hurricane season and is the most active since 2021." after the statement regarding the El Niño. Thank You.

65.97.56.9 (talk) 22:05, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tammy active or not?

Would Tammy still be considered active as an extratropical storm, or not? It's still being monitored and has a high chance for direct regeneration zoey (trooncel) 14:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See how Tropical Storm Gert is treated in the article to get an idea of how Tammy will be if it regenerates. See Tropical Storm Emily and Hurricane Earl for examples of how Tammy will be treated if it does not. Drdpw (talk) 14:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It literally regenerated back into a storm today. So include that it is active. 2605:8D80:407:37F9:50EC:53DB:4928:5437 (talk) 14:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA23 - Sect 202 - Thu

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 6 September 2023 and 14 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): EdereOmnes (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Anubhutij28 (talk) 17:07, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This season has technically 22 storms, 21 tropical or subtropical storms.

If we include the unnamed subtropical storm that formed on October 12, will this be the fifth or fourth most active season? 2605:8D80:406:859D:64CB:499F:81B7:3126 (talk) 18:21, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Unnamed tropical storm was counted as one, the current numbers are correct. If we were to classify it as a most active season, it'd be tied for 4th. ✶Mitch 199811 ✶ 18:36, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, there has been no confirmation that a subtropical storm on October 12. The season as it stands has 21 named storms, including the unnamed subtropical storm in January. Gum balls 678 talk 21:52, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Of course not, it is OR but one barely formed for a day in the North Atlantic. It will be announced in post-season reanalysis. 2605:8D80:404:4CEE:D560:2380:1CBA:E22B (talk) 12:49, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If and when that happens the article will address it, but not until. Drdpw (talk) 13:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of Storms in the Caribbean and Gulf

Is it worth noting that most of the storms have developed or spent most their lifetimes in the Atlantic Ocean. Only like four have developed in the Caribbean or Gulf, of which one (Idalia) became a hurricane. 35.130.105.90 (talk) 20:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 51: / Line 51: @@
 ::Of course not, it is OR but one barely formed for a day in the North Atlantic. It will be announced in post-season reanalysis. [[Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:404:4CEE:D560:2380:1CBA:E22B|2605:8D80:404:4CEE:D560:2380:1CBA:E22B]] ([[User talk:2605:8D80:404:4CEE:D560:2380:1CBA:E22B|talk]]) 12:49, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 :::If and when that happens the article will address it, but not until. [[User:Drdpw|Drdpw]] ([[User talk:Drdpw|talk]]) 13:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
+== Lack of Storms in the Caribbean and Gulf ==
+Is it worth noting that most of the storms have developed or spent most their lifetimes in the Atlantic Ocean. Only like four have developed in the Caribbean or Gulf, of which one (Idalia) became a hurricane. [[Special:Contributions/35.130.105.90|35.130.105.90]] ([[User talk:35.130.105.90|talk]]) 20:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)