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== Attendance and revenue ==
== Attendance and revenue ==


Hey guys, so, I would like to ask/propose: shouldn't the "Attendance" and "Revenue" colums on "Shows" be removed?
Hey guys, so, I would like to ask/propose: shouldn't the "Attendance" and "Revenue" colums on "Tour dates" be removed?


It's mentioned right upper, on "Boxscore", that Taylor's team won't report individual revenue numbers, thus, it makes no sense to keep these columns. Perhaps the "Attendance" should be kept, as some US shows have individual numbers reported to local journals, but not the "Revenue".
It's mentioned right upper, on "Boxscore", that Taylor's team won't report individual revenue numbers, thus, it makes no sense to keep these columns. Perhaps the "Attendance" should be kept, as some US shows have individual numbers reported to local journals, but not the "Revenue".

Revision as of 02:56, 25 February 2024

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:28, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • ... that The Eras Tour, set for 2023, will be Taylor Swift's first concert tour since the Reputation Stadium Tour in 2018? Source: Willman, Chris (November 1, 2022). "Taylor Swift Announces 2023 'Eras Tour' of U.S. Stadiums". Variety. Retrieved November 1, 2022.

Converted from a redirect by Ronherry (talk). Nominated by Unlimitedlead (talk) at 16:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

 Working Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Place a citation at the end of the table title and this is GTG. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:58, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I mean the table is currently uncited, but if it comes from one source, you could place a footnote at the end of the table headings and that would cover the whole table. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 21:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Peacemaker67: Drive by addition. I've added some refs to the table above. Cowlibob (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome. GTG, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 22:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Cowlibob and Peacemaker67: given that Taylor Swift hooks tend to struggle at DYK due to a lack of readership interest, and that we've run a good many this month already, I wonder if there's a better hook to be found? It might be that there's not much good to say yet about a future tour... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 11:14, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops! Meant to ping Unlimitedlead. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 11:15, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: I agree. If it's okay with everyone, I'd like to withdraw this nomination. On the plus side, this means I have an extra QPQ to use! Unlimitedlead (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Unlimitedlead: Okay, works for me :) Unfortunately, we'll have to keep that QPQ, it's one per nomination. But if there's something I can do for you, don't hesitate to reach out. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images

If these happen to be helpful, here are two images from Lumen Field, Seattle:

---Another Believer (Talk) 15:28, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Another Believer: Thank you for uploading them! ℛonherry☘ 15:50, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! Please feel free to place the images in more appropriate categories at Wikimedia Commons. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:51, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Another Believer, thanks for the two photos. The first one is potentially useful, but I'm not sure if the second one suffices for free use. Do you think the second one satisfies De minimis? Ippantekina (talk) 06:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(shrug) I dunno, I'll let others decide. ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:30, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The tag

Clearly a discussion started by a sockpuppet of Andrew5 (talk · contribs). Nothing else to discuss regarding this matter, as there is already an article for the film. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Stop removing it. The section blatantly violates WP:CFORK until proven otherwise. 172.85.249.214 (talk) 18:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on what evidence? HorrorLover555 (talk) 22:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, you are giving readers an insufficient amount of information here and forcing them to go to another page, giving the film WP:UNDUE weight in this section. This is supposed to cover the film extensively, and we only WP:SPLIT if there is so much content we have to fork it out. But there should be more then one mini paragraph here.SwiftFan2024 (talk) 19:47, 31 January 2024 (UTC)— SwiftFan2024 (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Andrew5 (talk · contribs). [reply]
I disagree. There is enough information about the film in the section. The film title, release date, and records broken. ℛonherry☘ 23:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Ronherry, plus there is already an article for the film. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Ronherry. HorrorLover555 (talk) 19:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2024

The eras tour has not ended it is still going on to this day. She just preformed the eras tour yesterday in Tokyo. 68.196.119.188 (talk) 02:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 02:08, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

without China

It's trivial, but it might be added that her tour achieved being the highest-grossing musical tour without (no dates) visiting China🇨🇳, the world's second-largest economy and having the second largest population. 72.174.131.123 (talk) 03:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. HorrorLover555 (talk) 07:54, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paris La Défense is NOT a stadium

The information provided here is inadequate for readers as it includes a misleading statement like "all-stadium".WP:NPOV stop deleting and prevent adding a necessary note for the fact that Paris La Défense Arena is not a stadium. Furthermore, the claim of an "all-stadium tour" is incorrect since there is still an arena shows included on this tour concert. ShakiraFandom (talk) 14:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it was at first reverted because it is unnecessary for the lead according to this edit summary here, firstoff. Unless there is an agreement on trimming down a bit on the lead to just referring to it as a concert tour, I think one show in an arena alone isn't going to make a difference as the majority of performances are in stadiums. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Ronherry. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how to put this more bluntly, but you (Shakira fandom) are not the supreme authority in categorizing what's a stadium and what's an arena. The Eras Tour is described as an all-stadium tour simply because that's what ALL the sources say. In some countries, arena and stadium are terms used interchangeably. We are not going to argue semantics here. Unless you have a source claiming "the Eras Tour is not a stadium tour" against the zillion sources that say "the Eras Tour is Swift's second stadium tour", please do not disrupt this article's stability. Regards. ℛonherry☘ 17:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The note about Paris La Défense Arena is an exception is sourced from the venue's official website itself- It is classified as an indoor arena per La Défense's official website and Google Maps. It is still not an all-stadium tour, technically. No matter how adamantly biased editors convince it. Wikipedia adheres to the principles of verifiability, objectivity, and neutrality, Please read WP:NPOV WP:Accuracy dispute ShakiraFandom (talk) 05:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yet you still have not provided a source that supports your claim that the Eras Tour is not an all-stadium tour. ℛonherry☘ 07:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The venue's website which you (ShakiraFandom) have provided in the note for your edits, does not prove specifically that the tour is not an all-stadium tour against the many sources that say otherwise. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2024

Add tour dates: Melbourne, Australia - MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground) - February 16-18 Danliamhalliday (talk) 06:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done The tour dates for those shows are already included in the tour dates section. HorrorLover555 (talk) 08:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mention The Eras Tour Is Still Going!

You should say in the actual article that The Eras Tour is stiil going. It's an important peice of info and you don't mention it anywhere! It doesn't matter where you add it in, just add it in! And if--58.105.64.235 (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC) you need proof, Taylor literally JUST did a show at the MCG! If you could add that it would be AMAZING! Thankyou in advance. }} 58.105.64.235 (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We know it’s still going thanks to the constant media attention. Flippedjack (talk) 12:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is stated in the sixth word of the article!! "ongoing"... — Peterpie123rww (talk) 12:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah but it's easy to forget. One word isn't much of a reminder when you're reading an article with THIS much info in it. You should add it again later in the article. Also you should mention that she's only like halfway through the tour so you can still get tickets. ButWeWereDancin (talk) 10:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the ticket is already 100% sold out? Lol what happened? ShakiraFandom (talk) 00:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm pretty sure you can still get tickets. Also Taylor could release more. You never know. 58.105.64.235 (talk) 11:47, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not really sure how this is relevant or important. All dates are listed, and it states that the tour is ongoing. — Peterpie123rww (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Associated albums" list in infobox

Opening up a discussion here, as I think it is beneficial to list the specific associated albums in the infobox, even if it is under a collapsible list. Easier for readers since this information can be written here, instead of leading the reader to a separate article. (lists displayed are only expanded by default here for visualisation purposes)

Possible options
The Eras Tour
Associated albums
Various
The Eras Tour
Associated albums
Various

It might be disputable if Taylor Swift should be included in this list — it is included in all promotional material, such as the poster and the concert film trailer, but its songs are not included in the set list, and have only been performed as surprise songs on selected shows. Also, including the original versions of Fearless, Speak Now, Red and 1989 is probably unnecessary — it could be assumed that the Taylor's Versions are the only versions of the album that are promoted, even if it was not initially released when the tour began.

(notifying @Ippantekina: for discussion purposes!) Theknine2 (talk) 05:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"it could be assumed" is WP:OR. I prefer "Various" because debut also got some songs for some nights, and the murky distinction between "Taylor's Version" and the original should not be there as it could confuse some readers. The bolded acts in the "Concert synopsis" section and the "Set list" section should suffice. Ippantekina (talk) 06:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Every album that Taylor has re-recorded replaces the original version. This is a known fact.
"I will always be proud of my past work. But for a healthier option, Lover will be out August 23." — in context to Lover being the first album which she owns the masters of.
The Taylor's Versions of Speak Now and 1989 were announced at the tour, and All Too Well (10 Minute Version) from Red (Taylor's Version) is included in the Red act. Many "From the Vault" tracks from Taylor's Versions are also regularly performed as surprise songs.
However, I do agree with you that Taylor Swift placed in the list. Theknine2 (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tour Dates Table

Hi, I just realised that in the table saying tour dates and stuff like that, the last 2 columns are not filled out. I can't edit this page yet, so if someone could fill that in that would be amazing! SwiftieNow&4eva (talk) 11:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! Are you referring to the attendance and revenue? If so, there is something in regards to that already covered in the "Commercial performance" section, as it covered that Swift's team do not attend to release the boxscore numbers. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Attendance and revenue

Hey guys, so, I would like to ask/propose: shouldn't the "Attendance" and "Revenue" colums on "Tour dates" be removed?

It's mentioned right upper, on "Boxscore", that Taylor's team won't report individual revenue numbers, thus, it makes no sense to keep these columns. Perhaps the "Attendance" should be kept, as some US shows have individual numbers reported to local journals, but not the "Revenue".

Thanks, Music01 (talk) 02:55, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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