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Colonel Bleep: How does Wikipedia value eyewitness testimony?

I am a lifelong resident of Chicago. I am also a lifelong cartoon watcher.

Some months ago, I submitted an addition to the Colonel Bleep page, indicating that the series was broadcast on WGN-TV in Chicago.

So far, the station has not been added to the list of stations that did show the series.

As I recall it, "Colonel Bleep" was broadcast on a show called "Bugs Bunny and Friends" that was broadcast early evenings on WGN. The broadcasting might not have started in 1957, maybe up to a year later.

Now, it happens that WGN has (or had) a bad institutional memory about these things. Years ago, I called the station to see if they could jog my memory about a "Leave it to Beaver"-like sitcom, "This is Alice," that they had aired about the same time as "Colonel Bleep." Nobody at WGN knew what I was talking about.

If you are looking for corroboration, maybe two of my contemporaries could provide it: (1) WGN-TV's Very Own Dean Richards, WGN's entertainment editor, and host of their special "Bozo, Gar, and Ray;" (2) Rich Koz, WCIU-TV's "Svengoolie," a Chicago native and a Three Stooges fan. About a year younger than me, we would have been watching the Stooges on an after school show hosted by Bob Bell, later Bozo the Clown on Chicago's long-running "Bozo's Circus." Perhaps Koz watched other WGN children's programming as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel MacGregor (talk • contribs) 18:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Bugs Bunny and Friends": started 1959, hosted by Dick Coughlan, later known as "Breakfast with Bugs Bunny", taken over by Ray Rayner in 1962, became "Ray Rayner and His Friends" in 1964.[1]

The Museum of Classic Chicago Television/FuzzyMemories.tv could also be noted as a potential source for this.

GVO8891 (talk) 22:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Referencess

I added a template message that asks for references for this article. Just added one for the last sentences of the article. I'm looking for more sources by my own. TheGGoose (talk) 15:44, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Episode List?

Surely there should be a list of episodes that are currently available to watch on here. Or is that not good enough (since there are so many not available or even known)? GVO8891 (talk) 20:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

8 more episodes

Ron "Toon Tracker" Kurer recently uploaded eight more episodes of Colonel Bleep on YouTube. Not sure how that should be incorporated here, though at the very least this does up the total count of available episodes from 35 to 43. GVO8891 (talk) 04:40, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

100 episodes?

According to some vintage sources, Colonel Bleep actually had 100 episodes made.

Issues of Broadcasting, 1967-1970: All list Colonel Bleep at 100 when it was syndicated by Sandy Frank Program Sales.

"Can't Wait Till Monday Morning", 1998, by Marvin A. Kempner, who was involved with syndicating the show on its first run: he "sold 100 cartoons for $39,000 from a simple colored piece of paper." It was also originally meant to have only 52 episodes.

https://archive.org/details/cantwaittillmond00kemp/page/64/mode/2up?q=%22colonel+bleep%22

GVO8891 (talk) 19:18, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another one: Children's television, The First Thirty-Five Years, 1946-1981 (1983)

https://archive.org/details/childrenstelevis0000wool/page/70/mode/2up?q=soundac

GVO8891 (talk) 00:14, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Uncle Bill's TV Club doesn't exist

The article says: The show was originally syndicated in 1957 as a segment on Uncle Bill's TV Club.

The trouble with this statement is there is no evidence that such a show ever existed. None. No TV listings, no ads, nothing at Internet Movie Database, nothing in the standard TV reference books, nothing on the web except to say Colonel Bleep was on it, but not a single detail beyond that.

Wikipedia’s source is Television Cartoon Shows: An Illustrated Encyclopedia, 1949 through 2003 by Hal Erickson. Here’s what he says:

Originally designed as part of a franchised children’s show package titled Uncle Bill’s TV Club, Colonel Bleep most often played as “filler” for the Uncle Bill or Captain Bob or Aunt Susie who happened to be your local kiddie host.

Notice that he does NOT say Uncle Bill’s TV Club actually existed as a franchised package…only that that was the original plan for marketing Colonel Bleep. And indeed, in its marketing literature, Richard H. Ullman Inc. does not mention such a package as being available…the only time Uncle Bill is mentioned is as the possible name of the prospective buyer’s on-air character:

Program Format…If used an an insert, the M.C. can be your established character, such as Uncle Bill, Cactus Jack, etc. … If used as a half hour, the show should be dressed up as a space show. We suggest calling the MC “Captain Star” and using our design for a stage set.

Bottom line: you have misunderstood what Erickson wrote…granted, some evidence may yet surface that Uncle Bill’s TV Club actually existed, and featured Colonel Bleep, but so far that is entirely unverified.

https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/the-colonel-bleep-show/ https://tralfaz.blogspot.com/2014/12/how-to-move-bleep.html

74.104.189.176 (talk) 13:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 Notice that he does NOT say Uncle Bill’s TV Club actually existed as a franchised package…only that that was the original plan for marketing Colonel Bleep. And indeed, in its marketing literature, Richard H. Ullman Inc. does not mention such a package as being available…the only time Uncle Bill is mentioned is as the possible name of the prospective buyer’s on-air character:
-'''Program Format…If used an an insert, the M.C. can be your established character, such as Uncle Bill, Cactus, Jack, etc. … If used as a half hour, the show should be dressed up as a space show. We suggest calling the MC “Captain Star” and using our design for a stage set.'''
+'''Program Format…If used an an insert, the M.C. can be your established character, such as Uncle Bill, Cactus Jack, etc. … If used as a half hour, the show should be dressed up as a space show. We suggest calling the MC “Captain Star” and using our design for a stage set.'''
 Bottom line: you have misunderstood what Erickson wrote…granted, some evidence may yet surface that Uncle Bill’s TV Club actually existed, and featured Colonel Bleep, but so far that is entirely unverified.