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*Few to none [[WP:RS]] discusses this "Lebanese Aramaic" or "Lebanese Syriac" or "Surien" language. Content much based on [https://syriacpress.com/blog/2022/02/27/about-the-origin-of-the-lebanese-language/ this article], not a [[WP:RS]]. [[User:Shmayo|Shmayo]] ([[User talk:Shmayo|talk]]) 09:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
*Few to none [[WP:RS]] discusses this "Lebanese Aramaic" or "Lebanese Syriac" or "Surien" language. Content much based on [https://syriacpress.com/blog/2022/02/27/about-the-origin-of-the-lebanese-language/ this article], not a [[WP:RS]]. [[User:Shmayo|Shmayo]] ([[User talk:Shmayo|talk]]) 09:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
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*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Language|Language]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Lebanon|Lebanon]], and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Syria|Syria]]. '''[[User:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">WC</span>''<span style="color:#999933">Quidditch</span>'']]''' [[User talk:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">☎</span>]] [[Special:Contribs/Wcquidditch|<span style="color:#999933">✎</span>]] 10:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</small> |
*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Language|Language]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Lebanon|Lebanon]], and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Syria|Syria]]. '''[[User:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">WC</span>''<span style="color:#999933">Quidditch</span>'']]''' [[User talk:Wcquidditch|<span style="color:red">☎</span>]] [[Special:Contribs/Wcquidditch|<span style="color:#999933">✎</span>]] 10:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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:*'''Keep''': As already stated in the previous nomination an article about a language is notable. The article discusses both the vernacular Aramaic and classical Syriac as the two are tightly connected and furthermore the term Syriac was used at time to refer to Aramaic. Wikipedia does not care about what you do or do not believe from your own knowledge ([[WP:VERIFYOR]]) but relies on reliable sources which are already provided in the page. Even if Iskander’s source is contestable Bawardi and Wardini both use the term “Lebanese Aramaic” which you have conveniently left out. I already stated in the previous nomination you are free to edit the page, as everyone is, but you seem to have ignored this as you did my counters to your same points in the previous nomination which makes it seem like you are nominating this based on [[WP:WINNING]] rather than anything else. Regardless, I have amended the page to help distinct between the colloquial Aramaic and classical Syriac as that seems to be where part of the confusion is coming from. [[User:Red Phoenician|Red Phoenician]] ([[User talk:Red Phoenician|talk]]) 22:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Renominating this page for deletion, as there was no input from any third party last time (closed as "no consensus").
Motivation from last time still holds:
- Fails WP:GNG
- See my first entry on the article's talk page here.
- The article mostly gives examples of Syriac language used in Lebanon. The intended topic of the article is an Aramaic language (probably Western) spoken in Lebanon in earlier times.
- From my knowledge, this language/dialect is not documented, thus not discussed in Aramaic studies.
- Few to none WP:RS discusses this "Lebanese Aramaic" or "Lebanese Syriac" or "Surien" language. Content much based on this article, not a WP:RS. Shmayo (talk) 09:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language, Lebanon, and Syria. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: As already stated in the previous nomination an article about a language is notable. The article discusses both the vernacular Aramaic and classical Syriac as the two are tightly connected and furthermore the term Syriac was used at time to refer to Aramaic. Wikipedia does not care about what you do or do not believe from your own knowledge (WP:VERIFYOR) but relies on reliable sources which are already provided in the page. Even if Iskander’s source is contestable Bawardi and Wardini both use the term “Lebanese Aramaic” which you have conveniently left out. I already stated in the previous nomination you are free to edit the page, as everyone is, but you seem to have ignored this as you did my counters to your same points in the previous nomination which makes it seem like you are nominating this based on WP:WINNING rather than anything else. Regardless, I have amended the page to help distinct between the colloquial Aramaic and classical Syriac as that seems to be where part of the confusion is coming from. Red Phoenician (talk) 22:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)