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Contested prod. Uncited. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Royalty and nobility, China, and Korea. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ Redirect per Cocobb8. Cannot find any sources on GBooks, Google (except for WP mirror content), Archive.org, or anywhere else that turns up any result at all for any of the romanization options given or Hangul/Hanja script provided. I doubt it's a WP:HOAX, but I think we can safely ~~delete~~ redirect if no sources to validate notability can be found 20 years since this article was created. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. I removed the PROD after finding plenty of sources on this individual especially in Korean. This is most likely due to the various different spellings of his name. Here in this Korean translation of the Goryeosa [1] published by the National Institute of Korean History he is listed as both "독타불화" and "톡타부카". Individual has Encyclopedia of Korean Culture article [2] as well as a Doosan Encyclopedia article [3] both listed as "왕독타불화". He also appears in Empire's Twilight: Northeast Asia under the Mongols by David M. Robinson as "Toqto'a-Buqa" as well as in Korea and the Fall of the Mongol Empire also by Robinson. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above evidence. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 08:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~: The sources found by CountHacker are mostly simple passing mentions and do not help in establishing WP:NBIO. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changing vote: Redirect to Wang_Ko#Family as a WP:ATD. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cocobb8, there are two Korean-language encyclopedia articles on this individual. That is not a passing mention. Not only that, he held the the office of Prince/King of Sim/Shen (various ways to translate it), which was a major office in Goryeo-Yuan politics, and had authority over the Koreans who lived in the Yuan-controlled Liaodong area. There were various attempts to place Wang Toqto'a-Buqa on the throne of Goryeo, he wasn't just a random noble prince, but an influential prince with power and influence, who nearly became king in at least two attempts.⁂CountHacker (talk) 16:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 Contested prod. Uncited. [[User:Celia Homeford|Celia Homeford]] ([[User talk:Celia Homeford|talk]]) 07:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 *<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Royalty and nobility|Royalty and nobility]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/China|China]],  and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Korea|Korea]]. [[User:Celia Homeford|Celia Homeford]] ([[User talk:Celia Homeford|talk]]) 07:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</small>
-*'''Delete'''. Cannot find any sources on GBooks, Google (except for WP mirror content), Archive.org, or anywhere else that turns up any result at all for any of the romanization options given or Hangul/Hanja script provided. I doubt it's a [[WP:HOAX]], but I think we can safely delete if no sources to validate notability can be found 20 years since this article was created. [[User:Dclemens1971|Dclemens1971]] ([[User talk:Dclemens1971|talk]]) 16:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
+*{{strikethrough|'''Delete'''}} '''Redirect''' per [[User:Cocobb8|Cocobb8]]. Cannot find any sources on GBooks, Google (except for WP mirror content), Archive.org, or anywhere else that turns up any result at all for any of the romanization options given or Hangul/Hanja script provided. I doubt it's a [[WP:HOAX]], but I think we can safely {{strikethrough|delete}} redirect if no sources to validate notability can be found 20 years since this article was created. [[User:Dclemens1971|Dclemens1971]] ([[User talk:Dclemens1971|talk]]) 16:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 *'''Strong Keep'''. I removed the PROD after finding plenty of sources on this individual especially in Korean. This is most likely due to the various different spellings of his name. Here in this Korean translation of the ''Goryeosa'' [https://db.history.go.kr/goryeo/level.do?levelId=kr_091r_0010_0150_0040&types=r [1<nowiki>]</nowiki>] published by the National Institute of Korean History he is listed as both "독타불화" and "톡타부카". Individual has Encyclopedia of Korean Culture article [https://encykorea.aks.ac.kr/Article/E0039059 [2<nowiki>]</nowiki>]  as well as a Doosan Encyclopedia article [http://왕독타불화 [3<nowiki>]</nowiki>] both listed as "왕독타불화". He also appears in [https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Empire_s_Twilight/7fcFEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=The+Yuan+court+now+invested+Wang+Ko%E2%80%99s+grandson,+Toqto%E2%80%99aBuqa+%E8%84%AB%E8%84%AB%E4%B8%8D%E8%8A%B1,+as+the+new+Sim+Prince.101+Like+previous+holders+of+the+title,+Toqto%E2%80%99a-Buqa+was+a+member+of+the+Kory%C5%8F+royal+house.+Born+and+raised+in+the+Mongol+capital,+however,+he+seems+to+have+identified+strongly+with+the+Yuan.&pg=PA117&printsec=frontcover Empire's Twilight: Northeast Asia under the Mongols] by David M. Robinson as "Toqto'a-Buqa" as well as in ''[https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/korea-and-the-fall-of-the-mongol-empire/CFE4682E8A7A0192321CBD121BFE0768 Korea and the Fall of the Mongol Empire]'' also by Robinson. [[User:CountHacker|⁂CountHacker]] ([[User talk:CountHacker|talk]]) 17:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' per above evidence. [[Special:Contributions/104.232.119.107|104.232.119.107]] ([[User talk:104.232.119.107|talk]]) 08:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)