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== Hermeticism == |
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I did some reorganizing of the information under Traditions and it seems that the reference to [[Hermeticism]] may be irrelevant or original research. I didn't delete it, and instead put it under it's own "Ancient Egypt" heading. However, we need to find a source that describes Hermeticism as classically theist otherwise it should be deleted. [[User:Squidroot2|Squidroot2]] ([[User talk:Squidroot2|talk]]) 00:41, 23 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Greek Philosophy
Irrelevent interpolation- "Since classical theistic ideas are influenced by Greek philosophy and focus on God in the abstract and metaphysical sense, they can be difficult to reconcile with the "near, caring, and compassionate" view of God presented in the religious texts of the main monotheistic religions, particularly the Bible.[3]"
The insertion of the above is an interpolation that appears to grant priority to the Bible, as though Greek Philosophy 'should' be reconciled with it. Whilst this is, or may be, an issue for Christian philosophers, it isnt an issue for Classical Theism per se. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 (talk) 09:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Classical Theism began with the Greek Philosophers and can be considered apart from Christian Theology which developed out of a synthesis of Classical Theism and Biblical theology. Therefore whilst it is correct to feature Christian considerations and developments as a part of Classical Theism, Classical Theism can be considered seperately and independently of Christian theology. This should be appropriately reflected in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 (talk) 13:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Minor Issues
The second sentence is grammatically incorrect.--99.16.65.43 (talk) 23:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
About this Word "Omnibenevolent"
"Omnibenevolent" is not a word used by theologians of note. It is mainly used by atheists who wish to disprove God's existence. There are, in fact, no Bible verses to support the idea that God is "omnibenevolent" if that word means giving only good things, and never punishment or trouble. The Bible says that every good gift comes from God, but that is not tantamount to saying that God sends only good things. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201:17&version=NIV
To my knowledge, there are no people in this rather artificial category "classical theists" who do not believe that God either leads us into temptation sometimes, allows us to have troubles, curses us, controls when we die, punishes us, or sends certain people to hell, perhaps forever. None of those things are benevolent, therefore God is not "omnibenevolent," according to the "classical theist." God is benevolent to all in giving them life on earth and the pleasures this life can bring, but that is different from always being benevolent. The word "omnibenevolent" does not appear in the Bible, in any language. God is omniscient, omnipotent, holy, righteous, and just. Any thought of God's goodness must be balanced by an understanding of God's justice. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14569a.htm
Therefore, because there is no source given for the edit, and I believe it to be false, I am undoing the edit that recently added the word "omnibenevolent." Pammalamma (talk) 03:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Philosopher's view
The current texts says some of the views of Plantinga, Swinburne and Craig which not only lack reference, but also seems to be incorrect. For instance, I don't remember ever Plantinga being held as someone who rejects divine simplicity nor Craig rejecting God's timelesness (in this last case, he only rejects timelessness with the universe, but not without it). I'ld recommend a review.
Momergil (talk) 16:23, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Classical Theism VS Open Theism
Much of this article appears to be a defense of Classical Theism against Open Theism. I would argue that justifying one position against another, without presenting the other, lacks intellectual integrity. The writer appears to have a very obvious bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramulose (talk • contribs) 06:07, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Classical theism new article
@Omnesadeosustentantur, I've noticed that you are interested in the classical theism topic as that you have edited the draft article at my userpage, I think you might also be interested at improving the main page as I've moved the draft here. —कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 16:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the notification. I'll be checking it if possible in future. Omnesadeosustentantur (talk) 17:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Hermeticism
I did some reorganizing of the information under Traditions and it seems that the reference to Hermeticism may be irrelevant or original research. I didn't delete it, and instead put it under it's own "Ancient Egypt" heading. However, we need to find a source that describes Hermeticism as classically theist otherwise it should be deleted. Squidroot2 (talk) 00:41, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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