Talk:Jacen Solo

Jacen's daughter

Template:Spoiler Yes folks! It turns out that Tenel Ka had given birth to his daughter in the newly released Star Wars Dark Nest book, The Unseen Queen. People around the internet are now talking about it! However, that child is still unnamed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.94.62.3 (talk • contribs) .

Hmm... can anyone say dark side? Jacen is ashamed of his daughter, and erases his cousin's memory to keep her a secret... tsk tsk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.236.250.141 (talk • contribs) .

Sykes

• I believe it's Allana though I could be mistaken though talk about a plot twist!! Jamhaw 18:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)jamhaw

Jacen's Force Abilities

Can someone expand on Jacen's Force strength, powers, and lightsaber skills. 164.116.107.39 06:53 January 19 2006. (UTC)

Yes. As seen in several books, Jacen is possessed with incredible foresight abilities, much like his grandfather Anakin Skywalker, but perhaps even more pronounced. However, several possibilities stemming from the end of the book Betrayal indicate that his foresight may be corrupted by the dark side of the force, hence deceiving him into murdering a fellow Jedi (Nelani Dinn) and manipulating the memories of his cousin (Ben Skywalker) to keep it a secret.

As for his other abilities I will refrain from commenting until I have studied more material. Doncroft 02:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it would be great to have a section on Jacen's power in the Force. I would love to hear what people think of his new power... stealing from KOTOR much?

Images

We need more images. Like bad. —Mirlen 04:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. Looks pretty good to me- most articles don't have this many, much less most Star Wars articles.

They probably need one of him as Darth Caedus. Simon Beavis

That said, from an anal copyright view, having so many fair use images is rather shaky, legally, and so not adding more pictures might actually be a good thing. --maru (talk) Contribs 06:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

That's because I added the images. I forgot to delete this afterwards :P. I posted this when the article looked like this —Mirlen 16:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Empathetic...?

Is it empathic, or empaTHETic? I think it's the first one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.95.59.46 (talk • contribs) .

No its the second one, see Sympathy. Jedi6-(need help?) 01:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Reasoning

I think Jacen attacked it so the Chiss would attack BEFORE the killiks were ready so his kid would be safe like what he did to Ta Chume. Jamhaw 18:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)jamhaw

"stronger than Luke" section

Shouldn't we delete that whole section? It's all speculation. Isn't am encyclopedia supposed to have factual information? Mwsilvabreen 01:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Awhile ago, that may have been proper; however, the books themselves are now explicitly raising the issue. Stilgar135 02:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Addendum- the section isn't just about whether or not he's stronger than Luke. It's about his entire character, how it's changed and Jacen's relationship with the rest of the Jedi order. The title was presumably chosen because it sounds snazzy and is one of the central questions raised in the section, though not the only one. Stilgar135 05:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Why don't we change the title to something like "Abilities" or something? Mwsilvabreen 22:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the current title encapsulates the section as well as anything could. The crux of much of the Star Wars story post-Traitor is Jacen's disillusionment with Jedi tradition and his conviction that he can do better. His belief that he will be stronger than Luke and that he will finally save the galaxy is one of the driving forces behind his character, perhaps the most important one. Further, the section also talks about fan controversy over Jacen, much of which is based in power comparisons. Stilgar135 02:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with stilgar. The books are starting to explicitly state the case that Jacen is rivaling Luke in power and will soon surpass him. Even Mara is becoming aware of this in the second half of "Tempest". I'm looking for the legacy series to really shake some things up seeing that the Original Characters are getting too old to have any realistic impact. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.11.132.221 (talk) 05:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC).

I agree with the previous comment. The books are directly comparing Luke's and Jacen's force abilities now as a subplot of the current fall to the darkside storyline.--Drsketch 20:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a part that blatantly states that Luke Skywalker is as powerful as Anakin Skyalker would have become had he not lost most of his flesh on Mustafar. This can't be correct purely because before his ascension to Sith Mastery (in Sacrifice), Lumiya stated that he could not best Luke in a fight (albeit a lightsaber duel... but regardless...) Yet at the same time we have someone stating that Jacen as a Sith Lord will be ALMOST as strong as Vader should have been... it just seems like some bad roundabout thinking... and really speculatory, as well. I reccomend getting rid of most of it. While it is irrefutable that Luke Skywalker is currently the strongest Jedi, there has been little said for or against Jacen's own power... ps. I hate his Sith name... I was hoping it would have meaning, but it turns out that it was just junk.

Time traveler category

How is he a time traveler? As far as I've seen, time travel seems impossible in the galaxy Mwsilvabreen 01:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm assuming it's because he's able to project back through time and observe historical events as they're happening. Stilgar135 03:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Must have missed that part. When does he do that? Mwsilvabreen 01:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

In the first Dark Nest book, he sees Raynar crashing the Tachyon Flyer and pulling Lomi and Welk from the wreckage. In the second LoTF book, he sees the massacre at the temple through Anakin's eyes, and appears to gain some sort of empathy from it- though I'm not sure if this is a direct effect of the time travel or just indicative of his fucked-up mindset. As far as we know, this can only be done when he's at the location where the event happened and needs to have a very specific idea of what he wants to do. Still, the category doesn't define time travel, so I'd say that this qualifies by default. Stilgar135 03:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Jacen understands why Anakin does what he does, he just thinks he went about it the wrong way.

It's flow walking not time travel.

Redirect

Darth Caedus should redirect to this article. Simon Beavis