User talk:Gunslinger47/Archive 1

Welcome to my talk page. If you leave a message for me here, I will reply below your message. If you've come here in response to a message I've left for you, I would prefer if you replied to it directly, but I can handle it either way. Feel free to notify me if you think I've overlooked one of your responses. –Gunslinger47

List of OOtS comics

I went ahead and adding the List of the Order of the Stick comics link to the OOtS main page. A lot of times, people look at the "what links here" as a way to determine if an article should stay or be deleted. I figured that if the list is linked from the main article, it would be less likely to be deleted. Also, if people see the list linked from the main article, they may be more likely to edit it and contribute to the list. I hope my reasons make sense, and if you feel I am incorrect, go ahead and remove the link. It's good to see another OOtS fan out here! Amalas =^_^= 14:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

(( Update: the list has since been moved to Comixpedia:The Order of the Stick (index). ))

Vandalism reversion

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Gdo01 06:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I had it on my watchlist, since I was talking to you earlier. –Gunslinger47 17:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Shippūden

Hey again! One last thing about the title is that you put "lit..." after the Japanese...this kind of takes away the purpose of not including an English title. We don't want to tell people what something is called until it has been officially announced, in this case, in English. And, "lit." wouldn't be Hurricane Chronicles, the literal translation of those three characters would be Swift Wind Legend.....not HC, which I'm sure, you're very fond of :)Shao-Yoshi 00:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Shippū is the Japanese word commonly used for hurricanes. They're not referring to merely "swift" or moderately blowing winds, so "gale" and "squall" and other words are out. They're obviously meaning the word in a spiraling sense, which leaves us with hurricane, typhoon or cyclone. Cyclones are called teikiatsu, typhoons are called gufū. Hurricanes are called shippū, as well as gufū, obviously, since hurricanes are typhoons. As such, in this case, "hurricane" is a literal translation of shippū, and the only appropriate one.

The -den suffix is used to express that the noun is some communication on the subject. So, a story, or a tale, a legend, or whatnot. The other senses of -den are inappropriate to the context. Chronicle is a possible choice, though it lacks the explicit meaning of active communication. We'd not be able to make this choice ourselves if it were not for existing, first-party precedence. Looking at Naruto: Uzumaki Chronicles (うずまき忍伝, Uzumaki Ninden), see the use of the word in official translations. Technically, it would have been the Uzimaki Ninja Chronicles, but they committed the nin-.

So, in short. Not only is Hurricane Chronicles one of many valid literal translations, it is the most valid one given context and precedence. But, anyway. Regardless of what is or what is not... Fans are calling it Hurricane Chronicles for the moment. We need that somewhere in the article, and placing it as the literal translation for Shippūden seems acceptable. –Gunslinger47 01:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

For someone who says he does not know Japanese, you cite sources well :). The most common word for hurricanes in Japanese is actually the English word ハリケーン (Harikeen). There have been many previous titles with ~den after them that have been officially translated as Legend by professional translators. Most of these were mythological ones, and since Naruto takes much from Japanese mythology it could be surmised that could be ONE possible title. But, let's agree that Shippuden is fine for now. Just that, citing from forums isn't really a good source.Shao-Yoshi 01:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I can agree with the use of Shippūden. My blurb above was just to point out that Hurricane Chronicles can be called a literal translation.

The only sources I'm citing are Japanese-to-English dictionaries and texts on the Japanese language. Harike~n is derived from the word hurricane itself (which in turn is derived from huracán) and is probably the most common word used, but that's beside my point. I'm simply asserting that hurricane is a valid, literal translation of shippū given the context. –Gunslinger47 17:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Not sure what to call this

Look man I take offense to what you said on the Naruto Talk Page "All I can tell from your user page is that you're an angry Jewish fellow who owns a dog and likes sarcasm. If that's the case, you'll like this you really ought to add {{User en-1}} to your user page if you difficulty understanding English." I am not a imagrate from Isreal my great grandparents came from The former Soviet Union to escape prosecution. I've lived in the U.S. for all my life I live in Indiana, I go to a middle school, I get all A's, I'm in an honors class, I undertstand basic English, I'm just not good at spelling, I'm not an angry person infact I don't like being angry but when people get on my bad side I get a little irratable (you have to remember I love to make jokes so when I make one it's not my bad side talking). Name a way I'm a troll. I'm thinking of leaving Wikipedia because of people like Someguy 0830. Reply sooner than latter.Sam ov the blue sand 02:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh now you remove the troll refrence be a man put it back I know you think of me that way and reply I know your there don't ignore me. Please reply.Sam ov the blue sand 02:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I was indirectly calling you a troll by placing the reference there, and I'm sorry for that. It was really uncalled for and I hoped to replace it with the Civility link before you saw it.

The "Jewish" reference was in response to your userboxes that clearly say "This user is Jewish". I'm in no way confusing you as an Israeli. Your user boxes also state that "This user is angry".

The en-1 comment was clearly labeled sarcasm, which your user boxes say you appreciate. "This user believes sarcasm is the highest form of wit." I've edited my comments there even further to help you understand my meaning. That said, you do seem to have difficulty with your reading comprehension. –Gunslinger47 02:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Remember what I said about my bad side well he's out. If you would have read the entire user page you would have seen I'm halve Cacholic and halve Jewish buddy you actually remind me of Someguy 0830 (heard of him he's a pest). I actually like how you don't hide your fealings about me (unlike Someguy 0830). but you didn't tell me why I'm a troll so tell me. And I don't have difficulty with my reading comprehension you, aghhh no I won't use curse words here. Reply Soon.Sam ov the blue sand 03:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

The word I used earlier was "belligerent". If you've yet to look it up, I meant it in the sense of being goading; willing to fight. Your responses seem designed to provoke equally aggressive responses. In a moment of oversight (roughly 13 minutes in duration), I presumed to guess your intentions as being deliberately disruptive. I was not assuming good faith, and for that I'm sorry. –Gunslinger47 03:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Give me an example (a link if you will).Sam ov the blue sand 19:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

An example of your hostile tone?

You think we're stupid or something we read the same manga you do. I think most of us know this already The great kawa just made a mistake when he posted, so don't go around saying you know every thing about NHC because you know just as much as us.Sam ov the blue sand 04:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

That's from Talk:Naruto#On Hurricane Chronicles's premiere date. This is one example of the generally angry tone. It wasn't my first choice of links (unfortunately), but I really do recommend that you read Wikipedia:Civility. This is an official guideline and deals with how you should communicate during a dispute. One piece of advice that I often find useful is to avoid the word "you" and the like. Do not speak directly to others, instead direct your comments towards the general public. As Someguy loves to point out: this is not an Internet forum. –Gunslinger47 00:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I see your piont I was angry that day and I have read Wikipedia:Civility. But how am I to direct my comment to everyone, I don't want to affend anyone like Iriseyes did to me. Please don't bring up Someguy I'm having a bad day with him.Sam ov the blue sand 00:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

It's impossible to control what people are offended by, sadly. All you can do is try not to be offended yourself, or calmly explain your feelings to your offender, or just ignore them as best you can. –Gunslinger47 01:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I see (says the blind man) what you are talking about, thankyou. But you see the subject of some contreversity is my jokes all I try to do is lighten up the mode around these Naruto related articles, is that so wrong.Sam ov the blue sand 02:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

When you are angry and try to make a joke, it comes off as jeering. It does the opposite of lightening the mood. You have to be careful when speaking ironically online, as people tend not to "get it". As a rather personal example, you didn't understand me when I said you should put Template:User en-1 onto your page. That was a joke on your recent misunderstandings, in the context of my user box references, which were in the context of you saying that I should have looked at Iriseyes' userpage. ^_^

My suggestion? If you're joking, place a smiley face or something. If people know your general mood, it can help them decipher your meaning more accurately. –Gunslinger47 03:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks how do you put a smiley face when I want to? Never mind I figured it out thankyou I have changed for the better now.Sam ov the blue sand 23:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Unconquerable Infidelity

(( regarding: User talk:213.112.137.177#Deletion processes ))

The ways of the Wikipedia community are inefficient and inferior. 213.112.137.177 17:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Inefficent, but functional and adaquate, at least. It has taken us this far, as we've learned of no better way. If you feel that the deletion policy should be changed, you can make your case on Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy. –Gunslinger47 01:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: Rukia

(( regarding: User talk:Tjstrf#Problem updating image ))

It works for me. You just forgot to purge your cache. Add ?action=purge onto the end of the Rukia page's url and then load it, that shoudl fix it. --tjstrf talk 03:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Time index 00:39

(( regarding: Bleach: Memories of Nobody ))

How are you certain that the scene shown there is not from the movie. It seems that the scene is the same one as in the normal Rolling Star intro but there is no way you can know that that scene in the intro is not from the movie. Given that the original Rolling Star intro contained spoilers maybe that orange sky scene was a spoiler from the movie. Gdo01 04:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

As the movie isn't released yet, we can't know precisely what scenes are from the movie. It's safe to say that nearly all of the scenes in the new opening sequences are from the movie (the pattern is pretty obvious), however the one scene at 00:39 stands out. It was in the previous sequence, as you mentioned. This adds the tiniest bit of reasonable doubt, which extends doubt to the Rukia scene as well. Further, remember that the recent opening sequences have contained "one-shot" stills that contained content from Part II. Now, this was not a still, but for all we know, it could be replaced by some other Part II spoiler next week.

Anyway, sorry for rambling on. The point is, there is reasonable doubt, and thus we cannot state it as fact with absolute certainty. –Gunslinger47 04:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Well my argument is that you cannot say with absolute certainty that the clip at that point is not from the movie. I think the "The opening sequence contains at least one more scene that is not certainly from the movie, at time index 00:39" part of the note should be deleted. I think it is sufficient without it and there is no proof its not in. Gdo01 04:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not firmly set against removing the note, but I'm afraid I have to argue with your logic. We can't, on Wikipedia, assert a fact when the only evidence is that there is nothing that disproves it. Would you like to take this to Talk:Bleach (manga) so we can get input from the others? –Gunslinger47 05:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

What's wrong with the note just saying "While it is strongly suggested, it is not certain if this scene comes from the unreleased movie." That way there would be no assertion about how the scene at 00:39 is probably not in the movie. Gdo01 05:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I understand what you're getting at. I mentioned 00:39 because it was was some evidence to backup by doubt. I felt I had to explain my uncertainty. I'll remove it now as you request. –Gunslinger47 05:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

hey i read the article you helped edit

hey i read the article you helped edit and i watch the show alot but i missed a bunch recently and you helped me catch up —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Naruto2366 (talk • contribs).

I don't know exactly what you're referring to, but I'm glad that I could be of help. –Gunslinger47 16:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Hanukkah

Happy Hanukkah Gunslinger47 I know you're not Jewish but I am so I feal like spreading the Hanukkah feeling. Thanks for helping me out with everything.Sam ov the blue sand 23:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Atheist Christmas! –Gunslinger47 00:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

You mean winter solstice? --tjstrf talk 00:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Nope, I refer to "Xmas"; a secular holiday with trees, tinsle, presents and jolly 'ol Saint Nick. Both branches of my family have celebrated it as such for at least two generations. –Gunslinger47 00:56, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

*whispers* X is a traditional abbreviation for Christ, not exactly a secular name. --tjstrf talk 00:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I call it "Christmas", and I don't care very much about its etymology. It could be called "Jesus day" and if all of Canada was calling it that, I'd call it that to. We're not like vampires, shirking at the effigy of crosses. My family and extended family are simply atheists and agnostics, who get together once a year to celebrate a holiday and eat cookies. We call it Christmas. –Gunslinger47 01:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Remember I celebrate X-mas too.Sam ov the blue sand 01:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Please

I am trying to put this as politely as possible, please stop following my acoount and/or my ip adress and "shooting down" everything I write on talk. I do not mean to insalt you, but I personally find it kind of creepy and annoying.--Uber Cuber (( User:68.43.180.69 ))

I reviewed your contributions because your IP has a tendency to make inappropriate edits. I wanted to ensure that no messes were overlooked. While I was in the neighborhood, I replied to your unanswered questiones on the various talk pages. –Gunslinger47 04:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Babel

(( regarding: User talk:Sins#Babel ))

hoew can i register in babel ? --sins 01:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, what is your native language? I can show you a page that will help. –Gunslinger47 01:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

spanish --sins

Then you can see here for instructions: es:Wikipedia:Babel –Gunslinger47 01:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I altered your userpage. I added the Babel template. You can make changes to it now, or delete it, if you wish. –Gunslinger47 04:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

hey thanks for helping me! --sins

You're welcome. –Gunslinger47 09:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Re-Images

(( regarding: User talk:Tyar#Images ))

Thanks! Tyar 00:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your help with User:SummerThunder. I also accept your criticism of my own incivility. I can usually take insults directed at me, but I really don't deal well with seeing people attack others. --tjstrf talk 04:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd never take an uncivil tone! I'm a saint! [1] [2] –Gunslinger47 04:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, I remember chuckling at the 2nd of those two when I first saw it from my watchlist. --tjstrf talk 04:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your admonish

User:SummerThunder has been vandilized in chinese wikipedia for more two weeks ,please see this page. Maybe my edit summaries is inappropriate , Thanks for your admonish. zh:User:Jasonzhuocn 10:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Browns-Steelers Rivalry

Dude, that Danny guy is a jackass. Why did my article get deleted? I did it perfectly and spend a lot of time on it to learned how to write an article. I keep improving it and it still got deleted. I keep getting people around to help me, and it still got deleted. What the hell, man? You seem like a nicer guy than most jackasses in here, so tell me why it got deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by French Bodybuilder (talk • contribs)

User:Danny Lilithborne nominated your entry for deletion. After that, there was a deletion debate where people were invited to show their support or opposition for the deletion. Here is a link to the debate: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steelers vs. Browns. I see that you did not contribute to the debate, which you were entitled to.

Anyway, if you look at the list, it appears that a total of sixteen different users all supported the article's deletion, including the original nominator. No one spoke in its defense. Everyone explained their reasons for their positions. Here is a quick overview of them.

Delete because it's original research. (6 vote)

This term gets tossed around a lot, and it is often applied incorrectly. In many cases, this confusion is just due to a lack of references. See Wikipedia:No original research for more on the subject.

Delete because of indiscriminate information. (5 vote)

Articles generally need to be more than just a collection of information. If statistical information is added to a subject's article, it should assist in the overall discussion of the subject and not be the main focus itself. See WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE for a little bit of help on the subject.

Delete because it's unreferenced. (3 vote)

Deleting an article solely because it has no references is controversial, but it is a contributing factor. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for more help.

Delete because it's unencyclopedic. (5 vote)

Different people have different notions of what qualifies as "encyclopedic". For information about content not suitable for Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not.

Delete because it's non-notable. (6 vote)

What is and is not notable is a point of great debate. Often smaller subjects should be included within a higher-level article. Such as within sports rivalry or significant rivalries in the NFL, for example. Wikipedia:Notability tries to define this subject.

Delete because it's fancruft. (2 vote)

This is a slightly derogatory term. What it means in this context is that the subject has no importance outside of the interests of a small fan community. Basically, it is a claim to non-notability. See Wikipedia:Fancruft.

So, the consensus appears to be... Your article provided statistical information as its primary focus. The topic of the article itself wasn't discussed sufficiently, and within the content that was present, there were unreferenced claims, possibly acquired from your personal experience. Furthermore, not only does the rivalry have little significance outside of its own context, but even within the context of the NFL it doesn't stand as one of the more notable rivalries. Discussion on the subject should be placed into higher-level articles such as sports rivalry or significant rivalries in the NFL, if anywhere at all.

Please note that the above is the combined opinion of those people who deleted your article. I only had a moment to glance at your articles, so I can't make an educated judgement on the subject myself. –Gunslinger47 05:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

IamCool316

(( regarding: User talk:IamCool316#Warning for incorrect information ))

Did you see what he said about you on his talk page(?), he called you an old man, doesn't go against No Personal Attacks, and with the amount of profanity he's been using why didn't you block him longer?Sam ov the blue sand 04:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

As I stated at Talk:Naruto#36_volumes, I might have accidentally provoked him. Regardless, the situation has been resolved for some time now and he was already advised of the rules he broke. At this point, harping on him with a hostile, authoritarian tone might upset him and have the opposite effect as intended. –Gunslinger47 04:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Bleach songs comment

(( regarding Talk:Bleach media and materials#Advice for continuing work on Bleach Beat Collections ))

I moved your comment on the Bleach songs from Talk:Bleach (manga) to Talk:Bleach media and materials. I think he is a very new editor and he will be more likely to see it there, since that's where he made his request. Hope you won't be offended - よろしく。 Dekimasu 05:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. –Gunslinger47 07:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Dispute

When ya can, see the respective talk page for your opinion. Thanks! PL(DB) 17:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ulquiorra

(( regarding User talk:Someguy0830#Ulquiorra's helmet ))

I like that one. I trimmed the sapce off it. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Can we talk

Can we talk about some of my problems, you're the only one who is nice about it.Sam ov the blue sand 00:08, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

If you submit a contribution that decreases the quality of an article, you are making work for other editors. Someone will be forced to choose between reverting your edits or spending time cleaning up the mess you created. Spelling mistakes are only a smaller part of this; there are many things in a contribution that could decrease the overall quality of the article in the process of adding new information.

Have you been taught how to write essays and research papers? They tried to teach me how to write several times through my years of schooling, but I only managed to pick up the basics. Stuff like sentence and paragraph flow... and stuff, but I still write no good so perhaps I'm not the one to be giving advice on the subject. :)

For a mechanical solution, try this: Download and install the Google Toolbar. I don't know about IE, but with Firefox, you don't have to use the entire toolbar, and can just take a single one of its buttons and place it on your existing toolbar. This is what I do, and I only use the spellcheck button. If you click it, it'll spellcheck all the text fields on a webpage and underline spelling errors. Click on the underlined text and a drop-down list box will appear with possible corrections. –Gunslinger47 00:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

1. How do I get Firefox?

2. But sometimes what I think I'm editing is a good edit.

3. Yes I have learned that stuff.

4. And is there anything wrong with just wanting to be at the talk pages rather than making edits?Sam ov the blue sand 02:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

1. http://www.getfirefox.com The GoogleToolbar will work with IE, however.
2. So do I, but I am also reverted from time to time. Be bold, but don't take it personally someone reverts you. Listen to what they say, try to work with them, then try again with a different approach.
3. Then you've learned more than me! :)
4. Nothing's wrong with just participating on the talk pages, assuming you keep civil and otherwise follow the rules. Remember that the end goal of all edits to talk pages is to improve Wikipedia articles.

Is there something else specific you wanted me to comment on? –Gunslinger47 03:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Holy mother f***er! I had spell check on my Google toolbar the entire time! Thanks for the help again, you should become an admin.Sam ov the blue sand 03:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Sharpe's Triumph

(message moved from User talk:MsHyde#Plot summaries)

I've reviewed your debate over Sharpe's Triumph (novel). MsHyde, unless you can provide a specific case where the plot summary either adopts a significant point of view or makes a strong interpretation, there is absolutely no reason for any tags whatsoever, let alone ones calling for references beyond the core material.

"if book refs itself, the whole plot summary is OR by Wiki author--needs reviews, etc."

You said this, and it's incorrect. Assuming that we know the source material, gathering information never falls under Wikipedia's concept of OR, only the interpretation of said information can. I don't mean "interpretation" as in understanding a coherent and straightforward plot either. If, for example, you wanted to discuss how the chess game in the Philosopher's Stone is a metaphor for the series as a whole, you'd need to provide a reference to published speculation. Without any speculation, a plot summary is just a chronological list of facts.

"plot summaries can be subjective"

While true, you really ought to assert that a plot summary is subjective prior to tagging it as such. Explaining precisely what your contention is can also help greatly when calling into question the quality of someone else's work.

"Wikipedia articles are not supposed to consist of plot summaries..."

A common misunderstanding. After WP:NOT#IINFO describes its purpose, it goes on to give a number of examples. These examples are used to further explain WP:NOT#IINFO and are not specifically intended to condemn the points in question. Regarding plot summaries, for example... if one can justify why the inclusion of plot details is pertinent, and thus not indiscriminate, then they are acceptable. Usually this justification is that an the included plot summary is subsidiary to the article, or group of articles as a whole. I'm not saying that the plot summary in Sharpe's Triumph passes this test, by the way. I'm just saying that your statement is a straw man argument against plot summaries in general, and is irresponsible. –Gunslinger47 21:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

(conversation continued at User talk:MsHyde#Sharpe's Triumph)

MsHyde

(regarding User talk:Saga City#NPA)

It seems that User:MsHyde was a confirmed sockpuppet of the banned User:Cindery. –Gunslinger47 03:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Many Thanks for the info; I suggested as much within 24 hours of his/her setting up shop. Unsubtle name too - for every MsHyde there has to be a DrJekyll? Saga City 09:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I tried mediating a dispute that MsMyde, in hindsight, likely had provoked. Wasted breath, I suppose, which is sad. :( –Gunslinger47 10:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Vasto Lorde

I didn't really see the need to catch the whole thing, considering its torso doesn't really add much. The helmet is the only really important part. Whatever works, though, as it's always nice to have the full profile. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

To me, gunslinger!

Hey, just wanted to invite you to check out the new Dark Tower WikiProject, a place to organize working on Dark Tower related articles. If interested, please add your name to the member list and check out the project pages. Feel free to change anything or make suggestions. An immediate task I think we should do is tagging all the appropriate articles with the project notice, and assessing them so we can get an idea of the project size. Long days and pleasant nights, --Mus Musculus 17:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Despite my handle, however, I'm not really that interested in expanding Dark Tower articles. This was my name long before I came to Wikipedia. I edited the core article recently, but only because it was such a mess when I read it. –Gunslinger47 01:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Do the Naruto characters have super strength, super speed, etc.

There's been a dispute between me and Someguy0830 about whether I should add the two superhuman categories to the characters. Someguy0830 says that "one flaw/inconsistency does not make a precedent move". I say, if a character like Naruto or Kakashi can perform a "Body Flicker Technique" (where a ninja goes 'poof') then why not add the superspeed category to the character's main page or include it in Category:Naruto characters? Know what I mean? Also, some of the characters have superhuman strength also, right? Why can't I add that category to some of the Naruto characters also? Someguy0830 continues with his "One mistake doesn't make a precedential move" - what the hell is that supposed mean, right? There are no mistakes in the manga/anime (probably in filler) when it comes to a character using a super ability at least once in the series that us humans in real-life can't perform. Anyways, we (or I) really need another person's opinion on this. Thanks! Power level (Dragon Ball) 21:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm back! So, you feel that it's innapropiate to add the super categories to any of the Naruto characters, even though some of them can do thinhs humans can't do? Power level (Dragon Ball) 00:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I get it now. Power level (Dragon Ball) 17:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Regarding [3]

User:Ancientanubis asked me for a good reason why I deleted his post, which I gave him. I was not being incivil. Please refrain from removing other editors' comments on talk page. Thank you. PeaceNT 10:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Your comment contained a judgmental tone by calling his contributions "nonsense". Further, your jeering cough made your comment potentially quite offensive given the context. As for my actions, removing uncivil comments is an acceptable way to keep the peace in such a situation. –Gunslinger47 11:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I would never regard a contribution as "nonsense" unless it actually is. Further, I only replied to Ancientanubis in the **cough** tone that he seems to be fond of, which is why it cannot strike him as being offensive in this particular situation. As for your actions, well, thanks for your input, but I had no intention of disturbing the peace here. PeaceNT 12:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I see where the confusion came from. I was pretty sure that thread was talking about this diff, where his entire chat thread was removed, and not your most recent revert. Your comment was spaced as if it was a direct reply to my own comment, so I thought you were commenting on the same subject. Sorry for the confusion. –Gunslinger47 12:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Bleach

Konnichi-wa, Gunslinger-san! I proposed a Bleach WikiProject at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals and thought that you might be interested in voicing your thoughts since you seem to have an interest in Bleach. I'm willing to hear any and all criticism, comments, and ideas to help improve the project. Sadly, though, support for the project seems to be lacking and not many people wish to respond to my desperate cries requests for help. Well thank you for your time, no matter what your answer may be, and happy editing! // DecaimientoPoético 18:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Speculation

I was going to do that but I had to go. Did you take care of it already?Sam ov the blue sand 02:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, but I added a welcome thing to his page.Sam ov the blue sand 02:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

manga scans

ya i figured that after lookin through them after a while:P

but thank you, and im not doin bleach im doin 666Satan

if your interested in helpin its a nice simple 66 chapter read(simple for me anyway:P)

peace,

Ancientanubis 23:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving Help

This time I'm trying to archive my talk page myself (Someguy did it last time) but I keep messing up and I have no clue about what they're talking about in Wikipedia page about archiving (then again everyone knows I'm horrible with directions). Can you help me out?Sam ov the blue sand 23:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I get it now. ^_^ Sam ov the blue sand 01:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

recent edits

Thanks for the clarification at [4] ... that's not one I cited ... no worries though! Have a good night. Keesiewonder ^talk 04:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Gaara

Because of sudden changes in my schedule I'm not able to finish the work I set out to do, specifically the Gaara cultural influences within the Gaara Article. I'm interested in deleting my discussion AD so as to not cause any confusion, as I won’t be here for a while to respond to any inquiries. I would like to ask that you please along with me delete your message's that are directly responding to the subject matter -I would appreciate it. Sagato 09:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not lying

That discussion about ported was not a lieSonicrules2 20:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules2

???

ok was you being a smart ass or not?--Tatshro Satou 16:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Here?[5] Yes, apologies. ^_^ My other response was serious, though.[6] Our WP:AGF policy states that you should assume good faith in all cases where it's possible for the editor to have innocent intentions. –Gunslinger47 16:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much about your information about Hayley. I changed all of the Hayley pages accordingly. Thanks again. Hmwith 16:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

My comment

I have no problem with anyone removing my comments, as long as they have a good reason and becuse you had a good reason I don't care.Sam ov the blue sand, X please passover. 02:32, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Do have anything to put on my page to say I'm on vacation? I'm going to France in a little while so could you put it up for me? Please and Thankyou. ^_^.Sam ov the blue sand, Talk 18:09, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikibreak#Vacation templates. –Gunslinger47 18:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

my edit comments

yeah a recent wave of idiots editing bleach has struck. i'm tired of reverting orb of distortion and other such faggotry. i call them idiots cuz thats what they are acting like, i'm not known for patience lol. my bad on that. the comment on the removal of bunshichi's nicknames wasn't disrespectful imo, and that wasn't the intent. the 3rd wasn't being a dick i really wanted to know where he got that shit from, cuz i have the entire manga and don't recall any more detailed explanation of ishiyumi's gate. it could be some extra shit from ultra jump (its happened before...see the trivia bullet on Katsumi Kabuto's name.)

i cuss a lot, some people take it as being pissed or rude in text format...i don't intend that, its just reader bias. if someone has a problem with it they can say so on my talk page and i'll explain it to them, or cease to curse when its in regards to their edits and such. don't think cuz i'm cursing i'm trying to be a dick or something. --Grimjaw 04:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Kamoebas

Accepted. I do know what has happened; the article "Kamoeba" existed as duplicates with different spellings; The one I dfeleted was short and rubbish, but clearly it's talk-page redirected to the real article. It was a mistake, and I will restore it (unless someone already has).--Anthony.bradbury 19:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

InvaderSora

I know I am in no position to do so, but I feel that, while he violated WP:SOCK maybe an indef. block is too much. He obviously wants to contribute productivly. Isn't there some form of probation on Wikipedia? Quatreryukami 02:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Are you under the impression that this user was given an indefinite block for violating WP:SOCK alone? He was already blocked indefinitely prior to this violation. As for probation, this user has been given plenty of chances. Let me step you through it.

• January 20, 2007: Toajaller3146 blocked for 12 hours due to 3RR
• January 22, 2007: Toajaller3146 blocked for 24 hours due to 3RR
• February 25, 2007: Toajaller3146 blocked for 48 hours due to 3RR[7]
• March 10, 2007: InvaderSora blocked for 48 hours to do 3RR
• March 14, 2007: InvaderSora blocked for 1 week for repeatedly removing an AFD template
• March 17, 2007: InvaderSora's 1 week block is reset for repeatedly posting {{unblock}}
• March 19, 2007: InvaderSora's 1 week block is reset for block avoidance with IP account
• March 31, 2007: InvaderSora blocked indefinitely for 3RR[8]
• April 5, 2007: Toa Mario blocked for 24 hours due to 3RR
• April 8, 2007: Toa Mario blocked for 48 hours due to 3RR
• April 8, 2007: Toa Mario blocked for 1 week for repeatedly posting {{unblock}}[9]

He "obviously" wants to contribute productivly, you say? I'll have to respectfully disagree. –Gunslinger47 02:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

My apologies, you must understand I don't know how to access block logs, or even if non admins can. Sorry to bother you! :DQuatreryukami 01:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

You can access the logs at Special:Log. –Gunslinger47 02:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Quatreryukami 15:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Pink eye

Honestly, I just couldn't think of a better way to describe it. Might come off as speculative. I added it figuring someone would have a better way of saying it. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Multi-uses

Yeah, I had meant to mention something there, but I got side-tracked with other things. Anyway, I've compiled a list of images used only in the episode lists and the subsequent episode articles. I probably could have replaced some of these as well, but not all the Naruto images on Wikipedia source what episode they're from, and I otherwise couldn't figure out which episode a specific image belonged to. So, do with the list what you will. ~SnapperTo 03:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

??

where did you learn to read japanese... Is it hard?Lightning Sword 00:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I know how to look up kanji by their radicals, but it's still too difficult to be of much practical use. Wikibooks:Japanese helped me somewhat. –Gunslinger47 01:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Orphans

Wow, that was stupid of me. I copied the tag I placed on an old image and forgot to fix the date. Sorry about that. ~SnapperTo 17:52, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

About Naruto

So is it completely true that naruto will reach volume 27 by the end of this year and what about the anime?66.68.245.197 00:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The article doesn't mention the anime. –Gunslinger47 00:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

If the North america anime continues to air 1 new episode every week, the first part should conclude by early 2008. Is there a possibility that Viz will skip the fillers and move on to shippuden? 66.68.245.197 01:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Anything's possible. You can hope. –Gunslinger47 01:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Screenshot capture

when I capture screenshots, I play my videos in Media Canter. I never really bothered thinking about the resloution. did I do something wrong?Verde830 15:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Got any thing for me to do

I'm looking for something to do on the naruto pages but I don't want to wikify the episodes. Can you think of anything? Sam ov the blue sand, My Talk, And if you feel like spying on me 21:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I've been working on images lately, and there is still much to do. My current task is to go through Verde830's uploads[10] and scale them all down to 288p. He had the unfortunate habit of uploading screenshots at 1280x1024. While I'm scaling them down, I'm also giving them full summaries and fair-use justifications. See Image:Asuma's Trench Knives.JPG for an example of my current work. Another thing to do is to check through all of the Category:Naruto images again looking for orphans. Much of the orphans were deleted yesterday, but recent changes have likely orphaned a whole lot more.

Finally, one thing I'm thinking of doing is placing all images in Category:Naruto anime screenshots and sorting them by the episode number of their source. –Gunslinger47 22:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, oh well. I just wanted to convert the format real quick-like. 02:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm.. thanks I think I'll try the images out. As you can see I've been here for awhile (personal stuff to sort out, I almost got my ass kicked) and alot of stuff has changed around the Naruto pages and doesn't looked like anyone missed me (sadly). Thanks for the sugestions. ^_^ Sam ov the blue sand, My Talk, And if you feel like spying on me 21:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh and do you think I should change my sig? Sam ov the blue sand, My Talk, And if you feel like spying on me 21:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

At 486 characters, you are over twice the 200 character figure discribed as excessive in Wikipedia:Signatures. The length guidelines suggest against signatures that take up more than one line in the editing box (100+ characters). –Gunslinger47 21:15, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

How about this? Sam ov the blue sand, My Talk, My crap 21:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

It's the length of the code that the policy is talking about. If you want to cut it down, I suggest getting rid of the Talk and Contributions links. Unless you're an administrator, it's not usually worth it to have them there. Besides, I use WP:POPUPS so they're entirely useless for me. –Gunslinger47 21:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

The recent non-free image jihad appears to have cut down the work needed on Naruto images greatly. We've gone for 800 images to what will probably end up being around 100. –Gunslinger47 21:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Fine you win. Sam ov the blue sand 21:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Movie 3

You have impecable timing. I'm in the middle of doing so. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Image

I can't place the image it came from, but one need only compare it to Sasuke's article to see that it's unquestionably copyvio. You could probably speedy it with a comparison link. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:1992 Rapture.jpg

Thanks for the input on Image:1992 Rapture.jpg. I'd be worried about marking it {{PD-because}}, just because of the ambiguity surrounding that. Certainly, the tag that's been put there requesting a smaller version makes sense, and I'll scale it down for that reason. But yes, you have the general idea of what happened. This was part of a Korean cult movement that happened around 1992, and for some reason had a strong offshoot in New England in the U.S. These posters appeared all over the area, and lasted for a long time (in some cases, more than 10 years). The original creator of the posters is probably not something we can find out, so I presumed that we need to treat this as a case of fair use. Is there a policy somewhere that suggests that that's not the case? -Harmil 20:49, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Sora Inoue

As for Sora Inoue in the manga, what page number states the made-up name Kakei? Which volume? WhisperToMe 01:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Unknown. I read scanlations, not Viz. Sorry. –Gunslinger47 01:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah - I wanted to see if it was changed since Sora was known - VIZ did that with Might Guy (the name was prev. rendered as "Maito Gai" WhisperToMe 05:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Gaara image

It's around that number. To be honest, I just sorta guessed at it for the image. Gaara's position limits the possible choices. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, it's 48. Should be at least. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

It's gotta be in that battle block somewhere. If not 48, then it's a shot of him in the stands. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Screenshot

The orange hue is wrong. Should be red. Can't believe I didn't notice it before. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Need I Point Out

(deleted comments moved from User talk:SanchiTachi&oldid=133546107 for completeness)

Regarding this edit, this is in line with the current understanding of Wikipedia:Non-free content. Images that serve primarily as article decorations (especially on lists, as of late) fail fair use justifications. The covers of the individual graphical novels alone is pushing it. –Gunslinger47 23:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[Need I point out] that your above two contributions to your talk page shows a conflict of interest regarding the non-compliancy of fair use? Furthermore, the images were there and are vital to educational purposes. It complies 100% with fair use. "establish context" That is the purpose of fair use. Educational value is only attained when providing a connection between both comic and minature, as the page is designed 100% for that purpose. SanchiTachi 00:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

"[Need I point out] that your above two contributions to your talk page shows a conflict of interest regarding the non-compliancy of fair use?"

I dislike the recent hysteria on Wikipedia and am having difficulty understanding it all. You see, fair use law does not equal Wikipeida fair use policy. It is not intuitive, so I'm tripping up on all the rules written only in as abstract consensus on talk pages. This doesn't mean that I'm going to ignore them, however. I'm not going to disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point.

"Furthermore, the images were there and are vital to educational purposes. It complies 100% with fair use. "establish context" That is the purpose of fair use. Educational value is only attained when providing a connection between both comic and minature, as the page is designed 100% for that purpose. SanchiTachi 00:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)"

You didn't make your intention clear in your fair use justification for your images, so misunderstandings are understandable. If your intention was to express a visual connection between the world of comics and miniatures, you'll need to state so explicitly. Under resolution 4 of Wikimedia:Resolution:Licensing policy, images lacking correct rationals are subject to deletion. Until you explained yourself here, I had assumed that you uploaded the miniatures to demonstrate the characters in question.

While we're on this subject, the article as you envisioned it, User:SanchiTachi/Graphic Novels, does not explain this "connection between both comic and minature" that you mentioned. Is this an academic connection, or as connected as, say, Lord of the Rings and a Frodo action figure? –Gunslinger47 00:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

The Liscencing used is the standard for all Warhammer Promotional Miniatures. We have already attained admin approval and the issue was already discussed and verified. Please try not to interfere with things you know nothing about. Thanks. SanchiTachi 01:05, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not speaking of the licensing tag. It is appropriate, but your fair use rational (on Image:Leonatos.jpg, for example) is unacceptably vague.

…

SanchiTachi, my intention is not to interfere, but to help. I see that you are having difficulty with other users (Someguy in particular) and I have some experience in successfully mediating such disputes.

The fact is your miniature images are currently not on the list of Warhammer 40,000 graphic novels and this has noticeably upset you. Wouldn't you like me to help you understand why consensus is against you?

As a side note, this is your second use of ad hominem against me in as many posts. –Gunslinger47 01:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

(above comment was deleted, prompting this reply)

Is the statement on your userpage meant to be ironic? I offer friendly aid and you slap me? Please participate in a respectful and civil way. Do not ignore the positions and conclusions of others. –Gunslinger47 01:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I have already pointed out that your prior relationship with the user above shows that you are unable to be unbiased or operate in the manner that you suggest. This is significant cause to justify you not using my talk page, as I do not wish it and further response from you will be seen as aiding him in his current harassment. Thanks. SanchiTachi 01:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Advice

What do you do when nearly everyone on this site begins to dislike you

E-mail me a answer-----Sonicrules2

Follow the rules? Know what he's talking about? Not fall victim to the trolls and idiots? There are any number of reasons. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

There is an old Computing Science adage, "Don't do that, then!"

If people are upset by your actions, you have two choices. The most obvious choice is to find out what exactly it is that's turning people off and try to change your ways.

The other is to ignore them. If you are doing good work on Wikipedia and following the policies and guidelines well enough to avoid being banned, then that's good enough. It doesn't matter what people think. :-D –Gunslinger47 01:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. It appears that you have four edits in the main namespace.[11]

You are obviously a talk page focused user, so be sure you understand the Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines inside and out. Remember, we're all here to help make an encyclopedia. Improving Wikipedia should be the goal of every one of your edits. This includes edits to talk pages. –Gunslinger47 07:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

You guys hate me too probably and I hate none of you and I am sorry I believe I should be banned thanks for your tips though Sonicrules2 02:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

PS GOODBUY FOREVER Sonicrules2 02:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Enjoy your wikibreak. You're welcome to come back when you want to help out some more. –Gunslinger47 04:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Sonicrules is some kind of highly dedicated troll or what but I hope he takes a long wikibreak, this user has been filling talk pages with gibberish for months, at one point he somehow managed to move a article [12] I have told him before to stop doing this and he responded by vandalising my user page.Sonic Hog

Hm, yes. That said, however, I'm unable to construe any bad faith out of his request here. It seems he's not fully comprehending Wikipedia's purpose. This might change with time and maturity. –Gunslinger47 08:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

What is a Wikibreak and I am not sure if I will return Sonicrules2 13:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules2

Why did you leave this comment [13]? What did this user possibly do to deserve a death threat? You have been blocked for it.Sonic Hog 19:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry GunSlinger but I have to comment on 2 things:

1. Why isn't he blocked yet?

2. He's more of a troll than I was when I was new. ^_^

Sam ov the blue sand 23:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I did not threating anyone I am sick of you guys making fun of me Sonicrules3 11:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Sonicrles2

Yeah there is nothing threating at all about threating to kill someone.Sonic Hog

you freak I knew I could never trust youSonicrules3 12:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

This coming from a vandal that adds nothing but nonsenseSonic Hog

Sonic hog I am not your enemy I am your buddySonicrules3 13:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

This is in case…

This is in case you did not get the other one thanks for answering my sock puppet question i forgot to sign in and ask it o well Mansa1king 00:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I say that. You're welcome. –Gunslinger47 03:33, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

RFC

As you were previously involved I thought you may wish to take part Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mark_Kim.--Crossmr 04:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I've made some comments on the talk page. My response to Mark Kim was simply because he put a solution to me to solve the issue which I thought was both unworkable and unreasonable. As well I clarified the purpose of the RfC, because his response seemed to completely miss the mark as he indicated he felt it was about individual issues and not his behaviour overall.--Crossmr 20:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

AN/I issue

I appreciate your response to my complaint. I replied as follows:

"While he might be interpreting that correctly, it doesn't need to come with 10 pounds of Angry in a 5-pound bag, which is what the complaint is about (and not whether he is right about how 'citation needed' tags are to be used). It's one thing to point out when someone does something a little bit wrong; its quite another to turn it into a series of personal attacks. I would ask that you maybe look a little bit deeper?"

My complaint was not questioning the proper usage of cn tags, but rather as to the vitriol with which ThuranX responded. I didn't feel it was either necessary or conducive to a polite editing environment. he was called on his behavior by another editor, and I even apologized for whatever slight I may have done him, and he turned that into an attack as well. The user just seems angry all the time, and while I used to like the guy, I am seeing this curtness as a little more unbalanced han the norm. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 19:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Civility

Profanity directed at another user is a personal attack, as is the defamation of personal pages and most of the list. Hyacinth 02:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I know of supporting my edit is on Wikipedia:No personal attacks: "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done." Hyacinth 02:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

You're confusing offense with insult. Hyacinth 15:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Naruto naruto0157.jpg)

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