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dear sir we pakistanis do not get a good hand here. this link is on the article already http://www.lsx.org.uk/whatwedo/aladinclimatechange_page3031.aspx which makes it clear his origins. then you have an article on his father abul fateh which is proven by national geographic on the abul fateh page and discussion. the two together prove Aladin is pakistani, indian and bangladeshi not just one origin. his mother according to national geographic and the abul fateh article is clearly indian. also the links from the http://www.lsx.org.uk/whatwedo/aladinclimatechange_page3031.aspx also prove Aladin himself considers himself to be of more than one origin. it is only wikipedia editors who seem to want to show him up as bangadeshi. also referring to him as son of a 'bengali ambassador' is wrong it is like calling one 'jewish ambassaror' or 'hispanic ambassador'; correctly it is 'Bangladesh ambsassador' as that is the country. national geographic summary is flawed only in that aspect as the world can see that the adjective is 'Bangladeshi' derived from 'Bangladesh' rather than adjective 'bengali' which latter refers to a language spoken as much in east of india [Kolkata] as it is in Bangladesh. [[User:Idontwantaccount2|Idontwantaccount2]] 16:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
dear sir we pakistanis do not get a good hand here. this link is on the article already http://www.lsx.org.uk/whatwedo/aladinclimatechange_page3031.aspx which makes it clear his origins. then you have an article on his father abul fateh which is proven by national geographic on the abul fateh page and discussion. the two together prove Aladin is pakistani, indian and bangladeshi not just one origin. his mother according to national geographic and the abul fateh article is clearly indian. also the links from the http://www.lsx.org.uk/whatwedo/aladinclimatechange_page3031.aspx also prove Aladin himself considers himself to be of more than one origin. it is only wikipedia editors who seem to want to show him up as bangadeshi. also referring to him as son of a 'bengali ambassador' is wrong it is like calling one 'jewish ambassaror' or 'hispanic ambassador'; correctly it is 'Bangladesh ambsassador' as that is the country. national geographic summary is flawed only in that aspect as the world can see that the adjective is 'Bangladeshi' derived from 'Bangladesh' rather than adjective 'bengali' which latter refers to a language spoken as much in east of india [Kolkata] as it is in Bangladesh. [[User:Idontwantaccount2|Idontwantaccount2]] 16:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Please make a note that i had my account idontwantaccount of before disempowered soon after i came to this article. then i had to make a new account like this idontwantaccount2[[User:Idontwantaccount2|Idontwantaccount2]] 17:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:00, 10 September 2007

Welcome

Hello Gscshoyru and welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

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Re: José Calderón

Thanks for the message, but I didn't actually delete any content, I simply REDIRECTED it so that both José Calderóns (the musician and the basketball player) would appear when someone searched the name. I will create the dis ambiguity page again, if you have a better solution please let me know or simply go ahead and edit it. This is not the first time that this happened, and all I've done is provide wikipedia users with both entries, and when people delete the dis ambiguity page is when the encyclopedia's content gets lost (not deleted, since it is still available, but the article becomes virtually unsearchable). mikeysarian 15:09, 5 July 2007 (EST)

Barbaro hoax

I don't know if I am going about this right, but please help me fix the Barbaro hoax. Please advise thank you"BFR"

VANDALISM

it's your fault! it's YOUR VANDALISM and you and your friend will be blocked forever because you bother me!

I'M NOT

I'M not a sockpuppet of this minutes to rise or afi punk!!!! so leave me alone!! i did nothing Melodic Horror


I DON'T WANT TO BE BLOCKED

PLEASE DON'T BLOCK ME : ( Melodic Horror


HELP ME

Can you tell me on which page i can say that somebody makes a vandalism and must to be blocked?? because someone change again and again things from Rise Against songs and album with no reasons!! Melodic Horror

George Bush

Hey sorry I vandalized his page, I just got mad after watching the news and took it out on his page! I won't do it anymore. MisterMonkey

Opps, I'm shaunnol

I'm Shaunnol, I should have logged in, I'm here at work, sorry about that! Thanks for noticing though.

smile

If I were you, I would just leave them alone for now. (That's what I'm trying to do now anyway.) WP:RBI and WP:DFT come to mind. If they want to contribute constructively after the block expires they are more than welcome to do so. If they would rather not contribute, I don't think I'd be bothered and if they plan to contribute non-constructively, then a longer term solution might be needed, but that can be dealt with as it unfolds. Mr.Z-man 04:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh... you have a point. I will bet you that he'll do the exact same thing when he comes back, though. But I'll shut up and ignore him. Stupid twinkle putting everything on my watchlist ;) Gscshoyru 04:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for spotting that IP sock, I've blocked it and extended Gaby's block (after clicking the wrong link and accidentally blocking you for a few seconds). If you notice any more attempts to circumvent the block or they continue POV pushing/trolling after the block expires (1 week), report it to me please. The usertalk page is protected until the block expires, so it should be quiet for a while. Mr.Z-man 16:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind those last couple things. - [1] Mr.Z-man 16:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I just did one when other postings crossed, but I think I'm covered under the obvious-vandalism exception at this point. Regardless, I'm going with what you said! Thanks for the dedication and good editing. Geez, what a dick that guy is...! --Tenebrae 18:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: my talk page

I probably should semi-protect, but I am sort of curious if I can figure out what's going on.

I don't want to put a bunch of other admins / editors through an evening of reverting again and again, though, so I won't let it go THAT long.

Thanks for your help. Georgewilliamherbert 01:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My talk page

Thanks for reverting, I'm actually taking a turn weeding out socks, it's rather fun. Maxim(talk) 02:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is fun. I get a very peculiar high from reverting vandals and watching them get blocked. You should probably semi your talk page though... you caught the vandal you protected against. Gscshoyru 02:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Gscshoyru! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Daniel 10:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bandidos

I keep fixing Bandidos page it it keeps reverting it back. The infor was vadals and I fix it and reverts back to the original vadal stuff with-in 20 minutes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandidoperv (talkcontribs) 18:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bandidoperv is a new user and a member of the Bandidos. He has a good point about the article - it's full of innuendo and half-truths. Though I applaud your efforts at preventing vandalism, I believe you have been a bit heavy-handed in your dealings with him. I have written him a welcoming note, encouraging him to discuss his ideas on the talk page.
Also, I am actively involved in maintaining this article and would ask for a bit of leeway when dealing with him. I will work closely with him to ensure that WP:V is followed. Thanks! Mmoyer 01:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah -- I screwed up when dealing with him. I apologized, though, and let him fix what needed to be fixed. Sorry about the trouble.
P.S. -- you may want to warn him about WP:COI... though that will only matter if someone complains, and no one (but me, and incorrectly) has yet. Gscshoyru 01:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cool! I have already explained it on his talk page, but I will add the WP:COI link (I didn't know there was a policy). Well, no harm - no foul. Thanks for your understanding! Mmoyer 02:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

iuchewie

please explain to me how a link to the Comprehensive Smokeless Tobacco Health Education Act of 1986 on the tobacco packaging page is spam - while the article resides on my site is CERTAINLY not spam based on the spam definition, nor did i have the name of my site in the external link. i can certainly understand that you're trying to keep spam out of wiki, but you are depriving people of good information here. Iuchewie 14:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:EL -- what you're linking to is not directly about the content of the article, but instead something related. If the act is mentioned in the article, then it should be WP:CITEed, and the site should not be your site, but the official one, one without a POV. But it's not closely related enough to be included as an external link. Gscshoyru 14:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hentai Corporation

Hi, i deleted it because you said it was inapropriate...still i received a warning message from you, i dont understand it whats wrong... Kukmukkuk 19:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You blanked the page -- I thought it was vandalism, since page blanking usually is. Just because you blank the page doesn't mean it gets deleted, though -- so you should leave the pink box so the admins can find and delete it. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Gscshoyru 19:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You!

Hey, thank you for reverting vandalism on my talk page, i have been having problems with that user for a while now. He has been blocked, thanks agian. Tiptoety 02:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, always glad to help! Gscshoyru 02:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

67.55.3.44

User:67.55.3.44 is way past 3RR on Scientology... however, I'm not sure how the 3RR noticeboard works. wikipediatrix 16:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's an example at the bottom, with fields to fill in. Copy/paste and fill in what it tells you to fill in. Shouldn't he just be banned for POV and vandalizing your talk page, though? Gscshoyru 16:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alison Lawton Page

Hi Gscshoyru, I recently got a message from you saying that I am vandalizing Alison Lawton's Wikipedia page. I work for Lawton and I have her permission to edit the page. Please help me out here. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindsetmedia (talkcontribs) 17:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you have permission, that in no way validates what you're doing. In fact, if you work for her, you editing the article is a WP:COI. In any case, you are removing content and categories, which is vandalism. Gscshoyru 19:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response to your posting.

Gscshoyru, you are completely wrong in your understanding of this dispute. I added NO link on "a page about a person". The page in question is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danzan_Ryu. This is a martial arts style not a person. Please respond. User5802 23:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my mistake -- the picture threw me off. Nonetheless, nowhere on that site is this style mentioned, so it's still indirectly related. Gscshoyru 23:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Kodenkan Danzan-ryu was originally the name of the style Danzan-ryu. Kodenkan was the school's name in Hawaii, similarly to the Kodokan was the primary school of Judo in Japan. Jujitsu America is a major organization for Danzan-ryu, Kodenkan Danzan-ryu, Okazaki's style, The Hawaiian Style, or whatever you want to call it. They deserve a link in the wikipedia article about Danzan-ryu Jujitsu, the style they train in! Similarly the International Judo Federation has a link in the wikipedia article about Judo.
Gscshoyru, here is a small listing of where on the site "Danzan-ryu" is specifically mentioned.

www.jujitsuamerica.org/JATODAY/JUNE2004/JAToday0604.pdf

www.jujitsuamerica.org/links.php

www.jujitsuamerica.org/BIO/MikeLynch_bio.php

www.jujitsuamerica.org/events.php

www.jujitsuamerica.org/JATODAY/Winter2006/JAtoday4.pdf

www.jujitsuamerica.org/BIO/ScottMerrill_bio.php

www.jujitsuamerica.org/BIO/RonJennings_bio.php

www.jujitsuamerica.org/BIO/JoeSouza_bio.php

www.jujitsuamerica.org/pastevents.php

www.jujitsuamerica.org/JATODAY/OCTOBER02/JATodayOctober02.pdf User5802 00:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You've made your point about them being the same already. Prove that it is in fact, the largest organization of it's kind, and you can up it up there, ok? Gscshoyru 00:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Gscshoyru, the best proof I can offer to speak for the associations size is by looking on it's black belt listing.
http://www.jujitsuamerica.org/blackbelts.php
There are over 340 black belts listed there (I counted them.)
Another major organization for Danzan-ryu in the world is www.ajjf.org
They have just under 340 black belts and are probably the second biggest Danzan-ryu association in the world.
You can see their listing here:
http://www.ajjf.org/blackbelts.html
The ajjf probably also deserves an external link in the bottom of the Danzan-ryu article, but I just hadn't dared say anything about that until this point since I was getting so much trouble for just posting one legitimate link on the article.

This should be plenty of proof to back up the statements I've been making. I'm a knowledgeable and fair individual on the Martial Arts and could probably help settle any controversies regarding similar situations to this in the future. User5802 01:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Their own website is not a WP:Verifable source. You, personally, are also not really a verifiable source. Please read WP:V and WP:RS as to what sources you can and cannot include. If you want to include this, you need to have a verifiable source that explains why the organization is WP:NOTEable in terms of the subject of the article. Otherwise, the link doesn't belong. If you find one, though, then show me and put the link back up. Gscshoyru 01:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Gscshoyru, I understand I'm not a reliable source, I was just saying I can help if there are similar issues in the future, although you may not particularly like me right now. I'm fair, and get a bit passionate about the arts sometimes.
Question: Can I use an already notable site as a verifiable source? I believe this is possible according to WP:RS.User5802 01:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Gscshoyru here are links from the already notable website http://www.danzan.com which speak of major individuals in Danzan-ryu and their involvement in the organization Jujitsu America. The notable site http://www.danzan.com is linked in the article Danzan-ryu under external links.

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/wally.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/eichelb.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/jennings.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/j_wheat.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/kpanker.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/stevesingleton.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/ikemoto.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/mikebrown.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/westfall.html


http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/aguilar.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/boydston.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/okamoto.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/beaver.html

http://www.danzan.com/HTML/PEOPLE/sjenning.html

User5802 01:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Only if the site is a reliable source. There are notable sites that publish false information, so the policy you mentioned doesn't exist... Also, it's not that I don't like, I think you're fine. I just think you don't know everything about wiki policy yet. This is fine, and hardly surprising, as you're new.
(After the edit confict): That's a verifiable source, though I'm not sure how that implies the organization is notable... but I think you've made your point. Put it back. Gscshoyru 01:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thx, Gscshoyru I'll put the link up. If I wish to add further external links in the future, or have questions on Wikipedia policy can I run them by you first? What is your ranking/responsibilities in the Wikipedia community? User5802 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Me? Officially, I'm just a regular user, like 99.9% of people. Unofficially, I'm a respected vandal-fighter. That's me. Gscshoyru 02:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My talk page

Just a quick note to thank you for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 13:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

VP problems

Argh. Thanks for asking, some editors have gotten a bit upset when they've seen that erroneous message from VP, thinking that they have been accused of vandalism...VP users have had to make a lot of apologies and explanations..! The problem is described here, and has been reported as a bug. The edit you just noticed was me testing to see if it had been 'partially fixed', as the bug report indicates...apparently, the rollback "edits by" message is not what was partially fixed... D'oh! Hopefully they'll fully fix it soon, it really is inhibiting my vandal-fighting..! Dreadstar 18:27, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i didnt vandalize the emma nelson page

i was only trying to edit the image and for some reason it didnt show up.

i found a much better image and i would really like to put it on that page

Did you upload the image to wiki? Images displayed in wiki must be uploaded to the servers. There's a link in the sidebar that says "upload file." Gscshoyru 22:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yes i uploaded the image to wiki and then i copied and pasted it on the emma page.

i'll try it again in the sandbox and see if i did something wrong

According to your contribs, you've never uploaded anything. You need to try again. Oh, and please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~. Gscshoyru 22:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

oops i didn't realize that it didnt upload its uploaded now. sorry for deleting it before —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dewy17 (talkcontribs) 22:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User page strangeness

Thanks for that revert, friend! :-) ScarianTalk 22:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, always glad to help... Now why exactly is he requesting to be blocked? I do not understand these vandals sometimes. Gscshoyru 22:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps, it would be best, if someone were to grant his request? :-D ScarianTalk 22:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It would, and someone has. Still... why would anyone ask that? Very, very odd. Gscshoyru 22:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Put it down to attention seeking? Or the satisfaction of being thought of as a badass who gets himself blocked on Wikipedia?! ScarianTalk 22:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

71.107.191.119

This is why he's reported to WP:AIV and counted a Vandal. °≈§→ Robomaeyhem ←§≈° 00:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC) It's not a Misunderstanding, he's trying to put it in Wikipedia's Bias, an example is this:[reply]

The Sun (not capitalized in American English) (Latin: Sol) is the star at the center of the Solar System Please don't change "the" to "our" - the term "Solar System" refers to our solar system; for Wikipedia's purposes, it only means our solar system, not others

His edits to me look very much like those of a new, good faith editor, who got pissed off because someone was reverting his edits. It's a block for a WP:3RR violation, and it should be. There is only one solar system (that's what he's calling biased) but he misunderstands, and he doesn't understand the manual of style. It wasn't vandalism, but misunderstanding. Gscshoyru 01:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Unblock denial

checkY Unblocked[[Animum | talk]] 01:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for the revert on my talkpage. It was very much appreciated AngelOfSadness talk 19:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit reversion

Please kindly look carefully at what changes i have made. these i have given you clear evidence for each and every change. it is to also make article smaller and not with all this padded out fake controversy his friends are clearly making up. also he is from more than once country by origin which i have clearly shown. this is truly wicked and anti pakistani if i am not mistakenIdontwantaccount2 16:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to me like you're removing content for no good reason, removing only negative info from the article. You're not adhering to a neutral point of view, and I'm gonna go with Elonka in that it looks like you have a COI. That's why your changes were reverted, ok? I 'ought not to have used the vandalism template, though, and for that I apologize -- the POV one was better suited. Gscshoyru 16:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
my colleague i will not add fuel further but elonka and all these people are inventing negative content. i am puzzled as the only reason i can see is that it makes your page bigger and so benefits Aladin. look closely and you will see from the orginal articles they are twisting to make something negative. is it not very strange to you? why? for me as a pakistani i see that this man also is described as partly pakistani in one of the links your colleagues have put. then it is strange they ignore its contents. i have put all these arguments. Idontwantaccount2 16:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Idontwantaccount2 16:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The stuff that you're removing is cited. Plus I don't understand half of what you're saying -- I don't have a clue about what you're talking about with the pakistani stuff... I can't make heads or tails of what you're saying. Gscshoyru 16:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

dear sir we pakistanis do not get a good hand here. this link is on the article already http://www.lsx.org.uk/whatwedo/aladinclimatechange_page3031.aspx which makes it clear his origins. then you have an article on his father abul fateh which is proven by national geographic on the abul fateh page and discussion. the two together prove Aladin is pakistani, indian and bangladeshi not just one origin. his mother according to national geographic and the abul fateh article is clearly indian. also the links from the http://www.lsx.org.uk/whatwedo/aladinclimatechange_page3031.aspx also prove Aladin himself considers himself to be of more than one origin. it is only wikipedia editors who seem to want to show him up as bangadeshi. also referring to him as son of a 'bengali ambassador' is wrong it is like calling one 'jewish ambassaror' or 'hispanic ambassador'; correctly it is 'Bangladesh ambsassador' as that is the country. national geographic summary is flawed only in that aspect as the world can see that the adjective is 'Bangladeshi' derived from 'Bangladesh' rather than adjective 'bengali' which latter refers to a language spoken as much in east of india [Kolkata] as it is in Bangladesh. Idontwantaccount2 16:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please make a note that i had my account idontwantaccount of before disempowered soon after i came to this article. then i had to make a new account like this idontwantaccount2Idontwantaccount2 17:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]