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Myanma is correct

Before anyone else moves this -- it's the correct name, "Myanma" is the adjective for "Myanmar". —Nightstallion 11:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry! — WiseKwai 14:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CNN, The Economist, and The New York Times use "Myanmar" as the country name and "Burmese" as the adjective. (source: Myanmar article - etymology)--TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That argument could be caused by a western POV. The Myanmar/Burmese name debate seems to have political ramifications. Since the protesters support the name Burma, that seems like the right name for this page. Jeff Carr 01:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Saffron Revolution

I found a couple of news articles from the UK and Bulgaria referring to these protests as the "Saffron Revolution". I added this info with the caveat that there are news reports dubbing the protests as such. I saw the term used in a Yahoo news article (the article's page was updated and the term disappeared), so I searched Yahoo News and googled it. It seems a newspaper in Qatar and a Buddhist organization are also using the term so far. Anyone who can elaborate on this, please add more in, and maybe we ought to retitle this article if indeed the protesters are using this term.

Ajbenj 19:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Saffron Revolution, that certainly seems to be the name being applied, though often cautiously with quotation marks, by the international media. I noticed the phrase myself and enjoyed it, and set up a separate article to discuss its usage, which has now been linked to from this page and a few others. If "Saffron Revolution" does turn out to be the name used by press and protestors alike, is it useful to keep both articles, or should they be merged?

Wadeguyitt 20:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

so the color revolutions got the names too under quatations... --TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is this phrase really widespread enough for the article to feature it so very prominently? Just because you liked it doesn't mean part of the article should be made into a soapbox in order to try and popularize it. Tempshill 05:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Related to detention of Aung San Suu Kyi ?

Aren't the protests also related to the detention of Aung San Suu Kyi? I'm not intimately familiar with the politics of this area. It appears she was elected to rule the country around 1990 but the military ceased control instead. She has been her under arrest for the last 17 years. Jeff Carr 01:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well from the BBC news feeds that I've read, her party, the National League for Democracy initially avoided participating or associating itself with the monk protests but have since joined in since the monks called for all people to help them. So though they may be linked now (by meeting with her on Saturday, etc.), it did not initially start out that way. As the protests have become more brazen, so has the involvement of traditional activists. -- Permafrost 04:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A duplicate/redudant article

Apparently another article, Burma Monk Protest, has been compiled over the last 36 hours. What are thoughts on merging them or somehow removing the redudancy? -Fsotrain⁰⁹ 14:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been bold and redirected it to this one. EconomicsGuy 18:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

These two sources ([1] , [2]) were cited in that article. Could these be combed for information to add into this article? -- Reaper X 21:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

China reaction

I cannot recall exact source, it was report or maybe speculate China quietly advice Myanmar Government to show restraint in manage the civil unrest, to avoid past mistake repetition. Wen Hsing 05:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Add it to the China section if you can cite a reliable source. Tempshill 05:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flags

Which flags are these? --TheFEARgod (Ч) 08:39, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe those are Buddhist flags. --Kachyna 12:36, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BBC News 24 Reports - 2007-09-26T09:45Z

The BBC is reporting that the crowds in Myanma have been fired upon, and that Gordon Brown has called a UN council meeting to 'discuss' the matter. Not sure whether this needs to be added, or where to put it if it does, so I'll leave it to someone else to merge in. --Veratien 09:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Government

Should it really be called anti-government? The protesters aren't really against government, they're against the current type of government. They happen to be pro-government as a matter of fact, the protests are to encourage Democracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.195.17 (talk) 11:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it should be called anti-government as you are only government when you are in power - else you are opposition. Government itself covers every conceivable type of politics - it only relates to who is in charge. The protesters may be pro-democracy but they are still anti-(the current)government. Daeve 11:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Proposal to remove image of Than Shwe

The proposal to remove the image of Than Shwe is suspicious and may be an attempt by someone in the Myanmar government to censor information.

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 I believe  it should be called anti-government as you are only government when you are in power - else you are opposition.  Government itself covers every conceivable type of politics - it only relates to who is in charge.  The protesters may be pro-democracy but they are still anti-(the current)government.  <small>[[User:Daeve|Daeve]] 11:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)<small>
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+The proposal to remove the image of Than Shwe is suspicious and may be an attempt by someone in the Myanmar government to censor information.