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Nevertheless, I think you raise good points, and I think this topic is worthy of further discussion. To that end, I'm going to copy your post on my talk page, and this response, to the project talk page, [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Martial arts#What counts as a "type" of martial art?|here]]. [[User:Bradford44|Bradford44]] 13:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Nevertheless, I think you raise good points, and I think this topic is worthy of further discussion. To that end, I'm going to copy your post on my talk page, and this response, to the project talk page, [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Martial arts#What counts as a "type" of martial art?|here]]. [[User:Bradford44|Bradford44]] 13:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:Russian All-Round Fighting is a hybrid martial art. Shure it includes elements from other schools, but it has alot of it's own, and it's own rules. I wouldn't say it was recently created. It was formed in 1998, that's already almost 10 years. Anyway, what do you say if we turn it into a one section: USSR/Russia? [[User:PocketMoon|PocketMoon]] 13:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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Please do not add stub class articles to the templates, if we do the will over fill & become unwieldy and useless. --Nate1481( t/c) 11:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok the Buza article is a stub, but Russian All-Round Fighting article is not a stub. PocketMoon 11:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point it could do with a tidy up first though. A couple of source/refs and a picture would help too. --Nate1481( t/c) 12:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Their are two links given their. PocketMoon 12:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally they should be inline, see WP:CITE for the ways of doing this. Also you may want to consider joining the matrial arts project if you are generally interested in MAs don't think we have may people with much knowledge of Russian arts --Nate1481( t/c) 12:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nice idea, haven't known about it, thank you. P.S. This style had references, they just were given wrongly. They made [] instead of the Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). things. PocketMoon 12:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Shit! I joined the wikiproject, and i'm the 99th to join it. If i'd wait a few days, i could be the 100th! PocketMoon 12:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two points on this. First, the USSR is separate political entity from Russia, albeit one that no longer exists. Nevertheless, the name of the state that was in power when sambo and systema were created was the USSR. If Russian All-Round Fighting goes in the {{manav by country}} navbox, then it should go under a separate heading for Russia.

Which brings me to my second point. Which is that Russian All-Round Fighting looks to me more like a school of martial arts that selectively teaches elements of several types of martial arts. When combined with the fact that Russian All-Round Fighting was very recently created, I have trouble as seeing it as a distinct "type" of martial art. It seems more like a school like traditional Japanese martial arts schools, that all taught a collection of warrior skills, such as swordsmanship, grappling, spearmanship, etc..., and just because different schools taught unique selections of these skills doesn't make each school a new "type" of martial art.

Nevertheless, I think you raise good points, and I think this topic is worthy of further discussion. To that end, I'm going to copy your post on my talk page, and this response, to the project talk page, here. Bradford44 13:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Russian All-Round Fighting is a hybrid martial art. Shure it includes elements from other schools, but it has alot of it's own, and it's own rules. I wouldn't say it was recently created. It was formed in 1998, that's already almost 10 years. Anyway, what do you say if we turn it into a one section: USSR/Russia? PocketMoon 13:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]