Talk:Fuck/Archive 5

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Audio File Removal

I removed and audio file because its content did not match its caption. It is a comedy routine. Not a verifiable history of the word fuck. Furthermore it greatly encouraged the use of the word. I’m no expert but I would say that puts the speaker’s neutrality into question.

Portuguese translation

I guess it would be interesting add to the article that fuck in portuguese is foder (verb), foda (noun), fodido / fodida (as in "fucked") :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.193.253.60 (talk) 08:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Also...

Many years ago, at a boarding school I attended, amongst the many books we had there was a red spine copy of a (IIRC) Collins dictionary which contained under the entry [no pun intended] 'Fuck' the second meaning was something to the effect of "Old word meaning tobacco". Perhaps there is some link also to the word shag? There is an lovely old pub outside of Latimer that used to have [may still do, sadly have not been there in a while] old jars on the windowsill labeled "Rough Shag", "Smooth Shag" and "Mixed Shag", this was always a chuckle. 01:21 & 01:22, 13 January 2008 User:194.204.119.67

Merger Proposal

• It seems like the History of the word fuck contains mostly extraneous trivia, which could all be deleted under WP policy. The parts of value should be merged into the core article, Fuck, as a separate history section. Parts of what is actually in the History article could probably be rolled into a Modern Cultural Uses section, rather than history, anyway. --SilyOlPooh (talk) 02:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

support - the "history" article seems to be pretty much rubbish, I wasn't even aware of it until now. - Ugliness Man (talk) 03:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

support per nom. Rpresser (talk) 15:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• I suspect that page History of the word 'fuck' was split off page Fuck because page Fuck had become too big. Same as that page Frogman got too big and had to be split. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

F.u.c.k

This is an acronym used in the 16th century by the British House of Lords when describing the act of Rape. The acronym is extrapelated from the term "For Un-consented Carnal Knowledge.24.146.12.109 (talk) 15:54, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

That's an urban legend, mentioned in the "false etymologies" section.-Wafulz (talk) 16:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Common alternatives?

To me, the "Common alternatives" section is a bit much, and does not really add much to the meaning or history of the term. Does it really need to ramble on with so much? Just an opinion. :-P

72.213.129.138 (talk) 03:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It certainly seems to have become an "every alternative I could find" section, not just the truly common ones. I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that "Belgium", "Smeg", "Gorram" or "Drokk" are common alternatives. I'd go so far as to put them in the trivia category, rather than appropriate to the core article at all. --SilyOlPooh (talk) 13:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Alternatives in Pop. Culture

It should be noted that in the HBO series "Flight of the Conchords" the characters often use the term "flip" instead of "fuck" and there is a song entitled "Mother *Uckers" which pokes fun at censorship of the word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.57.109.141 (talk • contribs)

French translation

The French word foutre is an approximate translation to "fuck" or "copulate". It was commonly used as an interjection during the French Revolution, and often printed in some newspapers of this period. [what is the reference for this statement?]

It is sometimes used in the passive participle adjectival form foutu(e) = broken for a thing or fucked for a person. In this form it is usually not considered vulgar. It is used in a variety of vulgar meanings: "va the faire foutre "="Fuck you", or "j'en ai rien a foutre "="I don't give a shit/fuck", "je fous ça où?"="where the fuck do I put this", "qu'est-ce que tu fous ?"="what the fuck are you doing?". The word foutre is also often understood as a vulgar version of "sperm".

• Literally:
  • "va te faire foutre" = "Go to fuck yourself" [intimate / impolite singular]
  • "j'en ai rien a foutre" = "I have nothing of it to fuck"
  • "je fous ça où?" = "I fuck that where?"
  • "qu'est-ce que tu fous?" = "What is it that are you fucking?" [intimate / impolite singular]
• Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Dubious

I find it very dubious that the term "Holy fuck" has ever been seriously applied to refer to any religious sexual act. I suggest removing the statement, along with its accompanying reference, from the article. Silly rabbit (talk) 22:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Its in the reference. From memory something to do with have sex with an orixá in Brazil. I have heard it used about tantra in the same manner, and as a general adjective for good sex, although I cannot provide any references.

Whether it is notable enough, the wiki really needs it, its in the right place, or that fansite material should take priority ... its someone else's call. But I would say that at least the reference should stay to support general use. --Lucyintheskywithdada (talk) 02:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

citation needed

"Fuck is not widely used in politics, and because of this[citation needed], any use by notable politicians tends to produce controversy."

Is this a joke? Do you need a citation to say the sky is blue now? 38.98.223.57 (talk) 08:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)