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Superman

The images illustrate interesting facts about the show. Perhaps I could move them to the episode list? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not just any old door, it's the door of a key location in the series, the Carnation Building. The crowd scene represents two different "takes" of the well-known "up in the sky" shot used in the black-and-whites. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure the Carnation Building is a "key" location. It was simply an exterior used to represent the Daily Planet's front door. Besides the pic isn't of the best quality and doesn't really "show" anything other than a door that was typical for its time. I'm not really sure it would be of any value to Wiki readers. There are two pics of Coates and Larson in the article so the doorway pic isn't necessary to illustrate the actors. But that's just me. While the crowd scene is two different frames, it was probably used in the "Birthday Letter" to save production costs of hiring extras to play a crowd. The crowd pic could be moved to the "Birthday Letter" episode in the episode list with a good caption explaining exactly what is going on in the pic. The episode list should be set up on Wiki templates. Including very specific pics here and there on the list would be of value to those accessing the list. I think the opening sequence shot of Reeves as Superman standing in front of the American flag would be a good pic to include. It's an iconic image that most people associate at once with the show. TimmyTruck (talk) 20:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

If you were to go way back in the article you would see that there was a point to showing the Carnation Building entrance. Many sources claim the Carnation Building was used as the Planet Building, which is partially true. The building number in that picture confirms it. The wide shot, as noted in the article, was a different building. I'll work on moving the photos to episode guide, which could use some spicing up as it's fairly stark (other than the title cards I added to it to illustrate b&w vs. color). Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 20:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

And while you're slaving away on this article, I'm listing to the theme song on my iPod. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 20:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I moved those two photos to the episode list. Also rescued one of Overjoyed's that was orphaned and tagged for deletion. It's from "Beware the Wrecker", so it's fitting to be in the episode list. Now all we need is one or two from the color seasons. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 08:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

How do you figure Phil Tead to be any more of a recurring character than some of the other repeaters? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 07:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Phil Tead made five appearances as Professor Pepperwinkle. While other actors (like Tris Coffin) made many appearances they didn't make appearances as the same character. TimmyTruck (talk) 08:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

So, relatively speaking, he's a recurring character. I see. I wonder if there's enough material to write an article about him? The only other place I ever saw him was in Horse Feathers. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 08:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about more info on Tead. IMDb would have some info. Sterling Holloway made two appearances as Uncle Oscar so I'm going to list him as a recurring character. Miss Bacharach was a receptionist at the Daily Planet and I believe she made 2-3 very minor appearances but she still qualifies as a recurring character. I'm going to list her too. If you know of any other recurring roles on the show, list them. The roles should have at least two appearances on the show to qualify as a recurring character. It doesn't matter if different actors played the role. TimmyTruck (talk) 08:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you recall the Horse Feathers role played by Phil Tead? As regards other TAOS "recurring" characters, the only one that comes to mind is "Professor Lucerne" who I think appeared in two consecutive color episodes as an "old friend" of Superman who never appeared before or after. Herb Vigran and Ben Welden probably had more guest appearances as villains than anyone, but always as different villains. The king of the guest appearances would have to be Steve Carr, who was in nearly every one of the first 26 episodes. Nepotism at its best. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 08:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, about the nepotism. LOL. Also, you're right about Lucerne. I'll look up the actor and include him as a recurring character. Also, can you think of ANY element, theme, motif, character, etc. that was original with the TV show and made its way permanently into the Superman mythology or appeared later in movies, comics, books, animated series, etc.? For instance, if a character made his first appearance in the television series and later appeared in one of the Superman movies or the animated series, it should be included in this article as an Influence or Impact sort of thing. TimmyTruck (talk) 09:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, I'm not sure about Wiki's policy on this, but I have no problem with "expanding" episode summaries in the Episode List. I have several favorite episodes that I would like to "elaborate upon" but I'm not sure if the episodes merit a separate, "stand-alone" article. Expanding the episode summary should be sufficient. I'm wondering about including "goofs" as well. In the "Haunted Lighthouse" episode, for example, Aunt Louisa's shadow can be seen on the backdrop of ocean and sky in the very first scene. I think that should be mentioned in the summary of the episode but I'm not sure how Wiki deals with such info. TimmyTruck (talk) 09:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, Insp. Henderson first appeared in the TV series and was later added to the comics. Someone would have to check the sources to be sure. As far as "goofs", there's a ton of them on this site, take your pick: [1] It's a fan site, but it seems to be a pretty good one. The owner seems to be acquainted with some of the surviving stars. There are all kinds of references to shadows on backgrounds, visible boom mikes, obvious doubles, flubbed lines, etc., some of which are a bit nitpicky, but some jump right out at you from watching the shows. As far as individual episodes, it all depends on whether there's enough material. A paragraph describing the plot (in place of the pilfered one-liner that's in there now) would be a good starting place. Spinoff articles are questionable because, unlike Star Trek, for example, they haven't had mountains of prose written about them. I wrote the first go-round of "Panic in the Sky", which I considered notable because other series' remade it. I didn't put it in a separate article, though, someone else did that. I've got several favorite episodes also, of course. "Beware the Wrecker" is one of them, which is why I recognized that one frame even though it's not labeled. I'd recommend giving it a start and seeing where it goes. The cautionary note is that this duplicates info that is available on fan sites, and sooner or later someone might point that out and/or cry "original research" if it's not sufficiently source. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 09:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow! That's great about Henderson! So he didn't appear in previous materials about Superman and then went on after his appearance in the TV show to be included in comics or other materials. That's good. That should be written up for this article. The show (or one feature of the show) had an influence on the overall Superman mythology. It should be included here. Do some searching around to confirm it and include it in a "Influence" or "Impact" subsection. The section has a specific place in the article. I'll check the WP guide. I'll look around too. Also, new to writing about television shows is a section called "Fandom". Are there any fan clubs, fan newsletters, discussion groups, fan sites SPECIFICALLY about the television show? Any during the show's first run? Any fan materials during the first run like premiums? Could one write-in to the show to get something like toys, books, photos? Did Reeves photo as Superman appear on anything like cereal boxes, toys, etc.? That info can be included in this article. The section "Fandom" has a certain place in an article. I'll create the section then include any you have. TimmyTruck (talk) 10:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)