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The result of the debate was DE-LIST. This is apparently a policy proposal, and per [[Wikipedia:How to create policy]] should be given an appropriate period to develop consensus. VfD is not the recognized mechanism for determining policy, and with limited exceptions, the [[Wikipedia:Project namespace|project namespace]] is out of the jurisdiction of VfD. Failed policies are kept for historical record, not deleted, see [[:Category:Wikipedia rejected policies]]. [[User:Essjay|Essjay]] · [[User_talk:Essjay| Talk]] 08:56, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

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This has been created by a single user as if this was accepted Wikipedia policy; this seems to be ad hoc rule making and not really justifiable without community consensus. I don't really think this "Wikiblower protection" idea can be just left in the article space; consequently, I suggest deletion. [[User:NicholasTurnbull|NicholasTurnbull]] 03:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
This has been created by a single user as if this was accepted Wikipedia policy; this seems to be ad hoc rule making and not really justifiable without community consensus. I don't really think this "Wikiblower protection" idea can be just left in the article space; consequently, I suggest deletion. [[User:NicholasTurnbull|NicholasTurnbull]] 03:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Keep'''. This is a valid and serious proposal and should be discussed as such, rather than VFDed/RFDed. That said, I am '''opposed''' on the grounds that I don't believe it should ever be necessary to perform a [[breaching experiment]] in order to call attention to bad policies. Assumming every delete vote can also be read as an oppose vote then this doesn't seem to have much traction as potential policy and before long we should probably just mark this as {{tl|rejected}} and move on. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] 06:39, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. This is a valid and serious proposal and should be discussed as such, rather than VFDed/RFDed. That said, I am '''opposed''' on the grounds that I don't believe it should ever be necessary to perform a [[breaching experiment]] in order to call attention to bad policies. Assumming every delete vote can also be read as an oppose vote then this doesn't seem to have much traction as potential policy and before long we should probably just mark this as {{tl|rejected}} and move on. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] 06:39, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' and '''expand'''. I support the basic idea of this policy/guideline, but it needs to be explicated further before anyone can meaningfully support it (or oppose). In particular, we need to figure out how it should relate to [[WP:POINT]]. I've been part of a number of consensus-based communities, and in each one I have noticed the occasional need for sincere members of the community to unilaterally break things down. Without unilateralism and disruption of a ''constructive'' kind, it is sometimes impossible for the community to move on. I fear, however, that the distinction between wikiblowers and pointmakers can be made only in hindsight. -- [[User:Visviva|Visviva]] 08:04, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' and '''expand'''. I support the basic idea of this policy/guideline, but it needs to be explicated further before anyone can meaningfully support it (or oppose). In particular, we need to figure out how it should relate to [[WP:POINT]]. I've been part of a number of consensus-based communities, and in each one I have noticed the occasional need for sincere members of the community to unilaterally break things down. Without unilateralism and disruption of a ''constructive'' kind, it is sometimes impossible for the community to move on. I fear, however, that the distinction between wikiblowers and pointmakers can be made only in hindsight. -- [[User:Visviva|Visviva]] 08:04, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
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