Talk:David Robertson (conductor)

The major part of the last paragraph that discusses the review of Robertson's recent appearance in New York is not relevant to a Wikipedia entry. Moreover, it does not cite the review, although it can easily be found. The tone is too hagiographic for Wikipedia. I suggest that the latter portion of that paragraph, the passage on the New York review, be deleted. Any objections? 04:21, 20 December 2006, DJRafe.

Sections in Biography

The biographical information was kind of jumbled together, so I made sections and sorted the appropriate info. Also expanded his early life with info from the article in [1]. There could be a Recordings section with notable recordings and we need a picture, thoughts on a fair use or non-copyrighted image? Groove1279 10:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

It seems the bulk of photos taken of him are property of the Associated Press and other such organizations- a fair-use image is needed. Although I can't find one as of yet, I'll keep looking. If anyone has a fair-use image, please upload it. Bylandl 22:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

To dab with the more than 10 people listed in David Robertson (disambiguation). After the move, David Robertson (disambiguation) should be moved to David Robertson. Chanheigeorge (talk) 00:18, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. It really doesn't matter how many people have the same name, the question is, is one viewed/searched for, more than any other. Right now this page gets 3 times as many views as any other David Robertson, and only 20% (1/5th) are clicking on David Robertson (disambiguation), so I would conclude that this page clearly is the primary usage, and can stay as is. 199.125.109.99 (talk) 03:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. If the statistics support that this David Robertson gets more views than the all the other people with the same name combined, I'm fine with staying as it is. Chanheigeorge (talk) 08:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

    Many more than any other is much more important than more than all others combined. The way exponentials work you can a hundred similar names which when you add them all up they add up to more than the primary topic even though each gets like about 100 times less views. 199.125.109.107 (talk) 17:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Support move. Too many other David Robertsons, and statistics will be skewed because everyone looking for any DR will come here first. Horsesforcorses (talk) 20:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

However, if that was the case they would click through the disambiguation page if this was not the David Robertson they were looking for. Since no one is clicking through the disambiguation page (only 1/5 do) then we know that this is the David Robertson that they were really looking for, and there is no reason to move the page. Recommend not moving. 199.125.109.96 (talk) 05:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The previous comment apply to people who are experienced Wikipedia users, but do we know the behavior of people who visit Wikipedia for the first time? Let's say they're looking for some other person named David Robertson, and find this conductor. Do they click on the disambiguation link at the top (do they even notice that?), or just leave thinking they didn't find who they're looking for? Has Wikipedia actually conduct some sort of survey on this? Chanheigeorge (talk) 19:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

How can they miss it? That's why we put them at the top instead of at the bottom, so that they are highly visible. 199.125.109.57 (talk) 04:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

• Question Can anyone provide the stats that are being referenced? JPG-GR (talk) 19:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

  Sure - from http://stats.grok.se/

• David Robertson 1362
• David Robertson (disambiguation) 264
• David Robertson (footballer born 1986) 252
• David Robertson (footballer born 1968) 305
• David Robertson (soccer) 105
• David Robertson (golfer) 94
• David Robertson (UK politician) 166
• David Robertson (naturalist) 118
• David Robertson (broadcaster) 297
• David Robertson (Canadian politician) 49

• Oppose. The stats clearly indicate the presence of a primary topic, and the correct selection of that primary topic. 199.125.109.107 (talk) 17:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
• Support. i see articles on the dab page about four sportsmen who've competed at national or olympic level, and two national level politicians. none of them are american so i am sure the conductor is the most notable within that specific area. i would be more confident about the above stats being true if the conductors article was being visited so much from a disambiguation page at David Robertson. therefore prefer to see the disambiguation page moved (and redirects fixed), and traffic checked after a few months to see if things have changed. Whydontyoucallme dantheman (talk) 19:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

  Not necessary. If anyone was looking for the other chaps they would be clicking on the disambig page, and they aren't. Therefor we know that they were in fact looking for the conductor. 199.125.109.107 (talk) 17:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)