Talk:Wes Borland

Citation needed

This was written at the end of the article:

"Even though Limp Bizkit is considered to be a stigma upon heavy music by many critics, Wes Borland is generally respected among the music community."

This lacks any citation or qualification. If there is some sort of consensu that can be quoted, I think this can be added in. In this manner, it appears to be more of an apology or attempt to increase the prestige of this individual, and as such, is not NPOV.

Feel free to add again if this can be proven.

--L.A.F. 18:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

The second paragraph and trivia section was riddled with either POV or non-encyclopedic information, so I removed them both. Original text follows is at the bottom of this page. --Diberri 21:14, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

dude... whats non-encyclopedic on he has a disorder called ADD, ie: hyperactivity. ... sorry i like it, its exactly what you do... you take out your pda and find out who he is. you read it, you know it --Gottwik

There is nothing unencyclopedic about his having ADD. Indeed, I never said that it didn't belong in an encyclopedia. What I was referring to was the trivia section's mention of apparently unencyclopedic and sometimes NPOV information. A few selections:

• "Favorite Color: Yellow.", "Favorite Food/Drink: Coffee."
  • Who cares? Why should this be included in an encyclopedia?
• "Kids call him Freak (wonder why) and nobody liked him."
  • It is POV to interject "wonder why" here, for it apparently expresses your own agreement with his being labeled a "freak". Also to express that nobody liked him is undoubtedly an overstatement.
• "It was claimed that he was a heart of old Limp Bizkit."
  • It seems that your own opinion is that he was at the heart of the band; however, conveying this in the form of "It was claimed..." seems weasely (not my term). Who claimed it? When? Where?

On another note, I am very unclear about your previous statement (above) in reply to my original deletion of the trivia section. What do you mean by "sorry i like it, its exactly what you do"? And what about "you read it, you know it"? I'm sufficiently confused, so please clarify if you would.

Finally, please do not sign your messages with a link to my user page and your username as alternate text, as in [[User:Diberri|Gottwiki]]. To some, this gives the false impression that I wrote the comment since clicking on the link takes users to my user page. Please refrain from such practices. --Diberri | Talk 21:59, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC)

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sorry about that link...

well... i think wikipedia should provide you with as much info as possible... if you wanna know about someone, it's nice to read that he is an artist, besides he plays in some band...

I personally hate limp bizkit, but there was no page for its former guitarist so i ve written something that when you read it you quite know the person...

i removed all the sissy trivia... those lines which are there now should be all facts

take care

--Gottwik

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In Limp Bizkit He and Fred Durst could't get along with each other and he was kicked out. It was claimed that he was a heart of old Limp Bizkit. "Fred Durst" does not work well without Wes Borland, because he is very good in writing lyrics, but without any sense of musical direction. In 2002 Fred Durst made an effort to bring Wes back, but Wes clearly refused to come back. Lethal(DJ) said this about the new guitarists: "It wasn't the same as the demos I heard. I was, like, man, we gotta get Wes back!"

Trivia:

• High school for Wes was some of the worst years of his life. Nearly everyday he was beat up and made fun of. Kids called him Freak (wonder why) and nobody liked him. He spent most of his time alone or in fear of getting beat up.
• He announced he was leaving Limp Bizkit
• Plays in an alternative music band named, Big Dumb Face, (BDF), which produce a lot of electronical music
• He is setting up Bigdumbface, Goatslayer & Eat the day into one band.
• Does his own face-painting in his trailer in about 25 minutes
• Is working with his own band Eat the Day, the band includes his brother Scott Borland
• Had no friends in high school in fear of getting beaten up
• Has to have 5 root canals, and each tooth in his mouth has to have filings.
• His mother is a nursery school teacher
• His brother play the keyboard for Limp Bizkit on tour
• Wes spent his honey moon in themeparks
• Got his first guitar at 12 years old
• Wanted to play the drums but it was to loud for his parents
• Took lessons in his dad's church ( for guitar)
• Married to Heather McMillen on April 10, 1998 for there honeymoon he took heather to different amusment parks around the country but they got sick of it and decided to go home in 2 days
• He was diagnosed with a disorder called ADD, ie: hyperactivity. He later realized that this was a mistaken diagnosis.
• The medicine he had to take for his ADD, made his teeth rot
• Kyle Weeks has been a friend of the brothers for 12 years.
• Wes never really got on with Fred and before they were really famous, Wes used to dress up as a woman at their shows to annoy Fred
• Quit his vice smoking in 1999
• When he is still smoking, he consumed 3 packs of it
• Joined Limp Bizkit when he was 18.
• Hobbies: drawing, sewing, taking things apart, playing guitar, designing new costumes.
• Nickname: Lucy (short for Lucifer), Tongue of Colicab, Wessy Poop Head, Little Cracker Spawn.
• Favorite Color: Yellow.
• Favorite Drink/Food: Coffee
• Favorite Movie: Star Wars..
• Was once shown at a gallery in Jacksonville. Wes plays an Ibanez 7 string.
• Listens to bands like: Tori Amos, Ween, Portishead, Metallica, Ministry, Slayer, Bad Brains, Morbid Angel, Primus, Judas Priest, Lisa Gerard and Dead Can Dance etc…
• Drives a 99' toyota pick up truck, wears black eye contact they start to hurt after two hours. he loves to draw and he usually is always seen doodling little pictures.before lb got big he was sending in art applicants to art school and at one point almost quit to go to art school.desinged the 3 dollar bill booklet and the sig.other inside the booklet(not the cover) some of his musical influences are les claypool and victor lamonte wooten.
• Almost quit LB cause acceptance to an Art College
• Wes designs and sews his costumes
• His contacts hurts after 2 hours wearing them.
• He likes to refer himself as 'Tonbue of Colicab'
• In Jacksonville, Wes was working as a bartender in a coffeehouse when he first heard about Limp Bizkit. He also played in a band called Krank with his brother Scott. Wes played the positions of vocals and guitars. While working at the coffee shop.
• High school for him were some of the worst years of his life. Nearly everyday he was beat up and made fun of. Kids called him 'Freak' and nobody liked him. He spent most of his time alone or in fear of getting beat up.
• He has shin splints.

Limp Bizkit genre

it states that he was/is part of 'rock' group Limp Bizkit whereas in the Limp Bizkit article it says they are 'nu metal' or 'rapcore'

wtf

i cant upload any pics of wes!!! why!?!?!?!! If anyone else can upload conact me for the pics of wesChildishknack 09:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Totally unacceptable

His page is made using a musical group format. He's a person; he doesn't have a genre, and he's been active since he was born.

He's a music artist so he does have a genre, and how the hell can you be active since you were born?