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:''Both of the suggestions are bad; don't add them.'' —ajo
:''Both of the suggestions are bad; don't add them.'' —ajo

Corrected false original statement

Deleted second part of this sentence because it is contradictory:

"But perhaps the biggest reason was that Canaris himself sought to undermine the Nazi cause, although not Germany's war effort itself."

Abwehr leader, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, was involved in two parallel efforts. One supporting the Nazi war effort and the other sabotaging it.

For example, he cultivated contacts with the British MI6; sometimes using them to the Nazi's benefit (receiving intelligence on Soviet troop positions) and sometimes in an effort to save MI6 agents captured by the SS.

Most importantly Canaris, secretly convinced Spanish leader General Franco not to enter the war on Axis' side when he had been sent on a mission specifically to encourage Franco to join the Axis. Hitler wanted Franco's cooperation to seize the British base on Gibraltar which was a territory completely surrounded by Spanish sovereign territory. If Gibraltar had been seized by the Nazis it would have seriously impaired British control over the Mediterranean Sea and threatened supply/communication lines to the British war effort in North Africa.

Canaris was a brave man and deserves to celebrated for his opposition to the Nazis, but it is false to say that he didnt hamper Germany's war effort.

[[User:Ofhistoricalnote|Ofhistoricalnote]] ([[User talk:Ofhistoricalnote|talk]]) 12:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Both of the suggestions are bad; don't add them. —ajo

Corrected false original statement

Deleted second part of this sentence because it is contradictory:

"But perhaps the biggest reason was that Canaris himself sought to undermine the Nazi cause, although not Germany's war effort itself."

Abwehr leader, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, was involved in two parallel efforts. One supporting the Nazi war effort and the other sabotaging it.

For example, he cultivated contacts with the British MI6; sometimes using them to the Nazi's benefit (receiving intelligence on Soviet troop positions) and sometimes in an effort to save MI6 agents captured by the SS.

Most importantly Canaris, secretly convinced Spanish leader General Franco not to enter the war on Axis' side when he had been sent on a mission specifically to encourage Franco to join the Axis. Hitler wanted Franco's cooperation to seize the British base on Gibraltar which was a territory completely surrounded by Spanish sovereign territory. If Gibraltar had been seized by the Nazis it would have seriously impaired British control over the Mediterranean Sea and threatened supply/communication lines to the British war effort in North Africa.

Canaris was a brave man and deserves to celebrated for his opposition to the Nazis, but it is false to say that he didnt hamper Germany's war effort.

Ofhistoricalnote (talk) 12:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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