Talk:Gibson Les Paul

IMAGE: I threw up an image of my buddies 58 LP Reissue. The LP Studio was a fine pic, but this is a more general article about the LP model, and the Studios are a 'submodel' if you will. The 57/58/59 are the most popular models...

Should we put les paul's real name on this page, or should we just call him Les Paul throughout. I thought maybe at the very end, when we're talking about his gig in NYC... or near the beginning where it's stated that he created one of the first early solid-body electric prototypes and approached Gibson without their interest.

AlSO, i hope i haven't offended anyone with my syntax corrections,etc. I tend to want to fix writing--i'm a college english teacher. But please know that i also write for myself--poetry, fiction, faction--and correct my own writing just as much as i have here. I'm new here and new on wikipeida...so maybe i'm doing things in a non-wiki way.... but i'm just trying be myself and to help. It wasn't intended to be overbearing or to infringe, in any way. :) I also just realized that this RATHER LENGTHY LES PAUL ARTICLE... was a STUB!!! I'm really impressed by how everyone pitched in so much info. to turn it into such an informative article.

Kudos. Thanks,smd "ms. fixit." 01:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC) SarahMdaughertysmd "ms. fixit." 01:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Tables

Would anyone object to a few tables describing the specifications (body, neck, bridge, pickups, finish, etc.) for the main variants in the 'Models and variations' section? I want to make sure people would not think it overkill. I of course would have to only concentrate on the "main" variants. I would be happy to take a serious first crack at it, but would want some others to review and edit. Thanks. Branny76 05:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

> and the pop star and electronics tinkerer Les Paul

Given that Les Paul invented the multitrack recorder, designed the Gibson LP and had an accomplished jazz carrier recording with the likes of Chet Atkins etc (as well as continuing performing with his trio every monday evening at the Iridium jazz venue in NY), I think "tinkerer" is somewhat insulting and does not due justice. So I've just upgraded him a bit. Nice page! 3-27-05 Modi

...also added a bit on Seth Lover and a couple of LP players at the bottom Modi

Norlin era

Could someone include the year that Gibson was taken over in respect to the section titled "Les Paul models in the Norlin era". The article isn't very clear as to when it happened. Gibsoninside

help

hi i have a les paul sunburst and from the number on the back can anyone tell the year of it 73169636. cheers philthyphil

You cannot do this on here. The talk page is for discussing the article, not for posting help. Wikipedia is an encylopedia. --S-man

Quit being so strict "S-man". You've probably asked/said something not related to an article on its discussion page too. Savagepine 21:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It's a 1979 model but here's not really the place to find out that information. Gibsoninside 30-June-2007

Nashville Plant, TN, USA November 12nd, 1979 Production Number: 136 Deiguitar (talk) 21:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey everyone, if you email Gibson with the serial number they will email you back the guitar specs, including year and color —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.14.233.11 (talk) 15:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Notable players

Shouldn't we remove this and make a "list of notable Gibson Les Paul players"? --S-man

"Notable" lists are just POV lists. No matter what criteria is placed on the list, someone is just going to stick their favourite NN player in there anyways. And what is the criteria? What about guitarists like Eric Clapton or Keith Richards? Slowhand is a "notable" Strat player and Keef is a "notable" Tele player. But both brought the Les Paul into the forefront in the 60's when they were both using Black Beauty LP's. Everyone and his dog wanted one simply because they saw those two using them...I know I did. The grand task is simply to keep the existing list pared down to a bare minimum. Or...if a vote or some kind of talk page concensus were reached...do away with the "notable" lists on all guitar model pages completely. Again, even if that were to happen...sure as anything some anon would re-create a new list just to get their own POV fave in there. My thoughts anyways. Anger22 01:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree, especially considering many players crossed over from initially using the Les Paul to the Stratocaster, or vice versa. (Me2NiK 06:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC))

I believe Eric Clapton's influence on the popularity of the Les Paul in the mid-'60s cannot be understated. The guitar was out of production, after all, and he was the main proponent behind its resurgence. Peter Green, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page all cite Clapton as the reason they became Les Paul players. I don't think it's a stretch at all to suggest EC saved the Les Paul. Vytal 00:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

clapton cites mike bloomfield

Keith Richards was the first "star" in the UK to have one and was popping up on the tube with it before anyone else did. Clapton's tie-in to the Les Paul and its popularity is linked tightly to his pairing of the guitar with a 1965 Marshall Bluesbreaker combo amp to produce "that sound". Everyone wanted "that sound" but weren't sure, at first, how to get it. In the meantime the entire globe was watching the Rolling Stones on just about every music TV program going. And Keef's 59 burst was there for all to see. And it didn't take too long before everyone else wanted one. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Jack White

Jack White has never played a Les Paul in most of his famous and mainstream years, however, it says in the article that White is a famous user of the Les Paul Junior and the Les Paul Special. White usually only plays an Airline and a Harmony Rocket, and also a Gretsch in the Raconteurs. --71.252.128.218 23:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

operateing instructions les paul

I found the artical very informative , but not what I was searching for. What I was looking for was a heads up on what knob does what. I just traded a strat. with a history, for a Les Paul standard. Year's ago I had a L.P. custom that was a beuty but would not stay in tune. From what I remember, the two forward controls were volume and the back controls tone. I could be wrong about this and would not be a bit suprised.
Right now it sounds best ran wide open "W.F.O.", with a volume pedal for control. This guitar play's and sounds great. I would like to use it for work , even though it is way heavy. Hopefully it is a pilot problem and it doesn't need surgery.
Please help me pull my head out and wipe my eye's. I'm not sure what year it is but I think its a new're model. I would also like to know how to track the serial # and find out. Thanks for any help I can get. Email=#, milosoft13@hotmail.com
HELP !!! Prof. Pickenstien Milosoft13 18:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC) MILO

You're right about the knobs, assuming my agile LP clone copies them as it copies most other things. Assuming the guitar works you should be able to figure out what's tone and what's volume yourself! Les Pauls in general are heavy, like the article says, mahogany and maple are heavy woods. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MobyTurbo (talk • contribs) 07:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

The Digital Les Paul

linky: http://www.gibson.com/DigitalGuitarNew/gibsonDigital.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.25.46.18 (talk) 02:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

Should we include the Les Paul's real name?

Should we put les paul's real name on this page, or should we just call him Les Paul throughout? I thought we could add his given name near very end, when we're talking about his gig in NYC... or near the beginning where it's stated that he created one of the first early solid-body electric prototypes and approached Gibson without their interest.

AlSO, i hope i haven't offended anyone with my corrections/changes ,etc. I tend to want to fix writing--i'm a college english teacher. But please know that i also write for myself--poetry, fiction, faction--and correct my own writing just as much as i have here. I'm new here and new on wikipeida...so maybe i'm doing things in a non-wiki way.... but i'm just trying be myself and to help. I just wanted to add a few things and the rest is "polishing." It wasn't intended to be overbearing or to infringe, in any way. :) I also just realized that this RATHER LENGTHY LES PAUL ARTICLE... was a STUB!!! I'm really impressed by how everyone pitched in so much info. to turn it into such an informative article.

Kudos. Thanks,smd "ms. fixit." 01:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC) SarahMdaughertysmd "ms. fixit." 01:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Change the Picture!

there must be a better picture somewhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.123.204.10 (talk) 22:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

No free pics over at Wiki-Commons other than the LP Studio model. And most of the uploads onto Wiki nowadays are copyvios from manufacturer webpages. 156.34.232.31 22:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

epiphone les paul

http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=43&CollectionID=6

what about the epiphone les paul guitars as above? Where do they fit into the picture?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.12.207.180 (talk) 02:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC).

I think I've addressed this appropriately. Epiphones are not imitations but are "real" Les Pauls Brettr 11:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Advertisment?

This article, (in my opinion) is a mix between advertising and a fan site. This article needs a complete overwrite to be more "Wikipedian". I would take up the challenge, but I know nothing about the article or subject.T.o.anon84 06:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Tone of the article

I disagree with the conclusion that the article is promotional. I am very much a Fender player and have never gotten used to the 'architecture' of Gibsons nor their particular sound. However, I have always maintained a deep admiration for Gibson guitars and respect for those who play them. Further, one cannot simply overlook the profound contributions to modern music that has been made by the Les Paul. For many musicians, the instrument itself is as much an extension of their own creativity as the music they perform. Additionally, the Les Paul is somewhat iconic of the Rock n' roll era as well as musical pop culture. A neutral, emotionless and 'encyclopedic' tone to this article would fail to convey to the reader a proper scope of appreciation for and understanding of the instrument. J.Roth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.206.15 (talk) 09:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It's not just a piece of furniture. THe guitar has a character that's almost "human-like". 156.34.221.137 12:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

"Black Beauty" is a nickname. It was never used by Gibson until fairly recently, but still not in any official capacity. However, this nickname is well known colloquially. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.232.225 (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Les Paul Faded/LesPaul special.

The Faded is not a stabalised special it has been built to a different specifacation.