Talk:Phineas and Ferb

This article was nominated for deletion on 17 May 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

"Running Gags"

I got rid of that. It's pretty clear it was written by a seven year old, using immature vocabulary, boldface, and excess exclamation marks. (24.47.88.195 (talk) 12:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

that was reverted as it seemed as though it was vandalism. before you remove things, get a consensus. or at the very least, put an edit summary. Queerbubbles (talk) 12:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Please do not remove any of the running gags unless if you think it needs to be removed. Please remove it if I made an error in adding it again.--Yenaldooshi (talk) 22:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

It should be there, but needs a bit of clean-up. Malpass93 (talk) 22:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree.--♥ Yenaldooshi ♥ Benwolf ♥ (talk) 23:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I didnt remove anything, I undid the IP's edits because they seemed to be vandalism and had no discussion here. Please do not assume that I removed anything. Queerbubbles (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean you, I meant the the IP's edits. I did not assume it was you and thanks for reverting it.--♥ Yenaldooshi ♥ Benwolf ♥ (talk) 21:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

"Running Gags" is not someting that needs a whole section for. Maybe a line in trivia like "The show follows a similar format in almost every episode" or something would be fine, but this article is going crapshit because of running gags. (24.47.88.195 (talk) 15:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC))
Hey! I wrote Running Gags! Any ways...I don't think you should use that type of language Mr. "I'm So Cool that I laugh at something a Seven year old does". The C-word is nothing to joke about. Please do not use that Language. --Obaidz96 (talk) 00:16, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Crap isn't a bad word. Shit is, though. Just shows you're a seven year old. (24.47.88.195 (talk) 13:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC))

Stop being mean to each other! God! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.243.179 (talk) 21:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Quotes

Should we list some Quotes from the show? i know one of them is:

Candace: You are going DOWN! *continues repeating this until it completely fades out* Phineas: We're gonna need a blow torch, and some more peanut butter...

Quote sections are strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. Also, please put down your signature. 24.47.88.195 (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Closer to prohibited. That is what wikiquote http://en.wikiquote.org/ is for. Start a page there for this show and put the quotes there. --NrDg 20:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Cast

IMDB lists Thomas Sangster as Ferb. Same is stated in the article cited in sources. I've changed the cast listing accordingly. That was me. if anyone cares :) Dmitriid 06:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

A sneak peek of the series will air on August 17, 2007, after High School Musical 2. It was confirmed by Popstar! magazine.

WHY WOULD THEY show this now, and not WIZARDS OF WAVELRY PLACE, which airs in October, not January?

Why do they have a character named Isabella? It's already the 5th most popular baby name of 2007 in the U.S. and now this show has to go with this craze and steal the name too? Where's the originality? - Isabella

The main characters are named Phineas and Ferb, ease up, haha :P.

They showed it to make more people want to watch when it officially premiers in January.75.67.128.65 15:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I have sources but...

Okay I have this source but it's an official document by Disney and it's on microsoft and I have no idea how to put that as a source. If you [click here|http://www.disneychannelmedianet.com/Web/homepage/HomePage.aspx] and scroll down until you see a picture, and an article title saying "DISNEY CHANNELS AROUND THE WORLD TO PREMIERE ORIGINAL ANIMATED COMEDY SERIES "PHINEAS AND FERB" IN MONTH-LONG PROGRAMMING EVENT, 'PHINEAS AND FERB-RUARY'". You clikc on the line that says "Press" and a document should open up. That confirms the 3.3 million viewers who watched the second sneak-peak and that the show will premiere February 1. Snoborder93 23:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

The url you get when you click on "Press" is http://www.disneychannelmedianet.com/DNR/2007/doc/SeriesLaunchrelease2.doc. It is a real good reference - you did good finding it. --NrDg 03:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Doofenshmirtz

Do you think that Dr. Doofenshmurtz is Phineas's biological father? They sprt of look alike...--98.27.191.3 (talk) 02:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

And I'm sure being drawn by the same artist has nothing to do with it. QAE 00:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Being drawn by the same artist has everything to do with it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.97.76 (talk) 21:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Logo

Should we change the picture from the title screen to the logo with a white or a transparent background?

no, i dont think so. it looks good how it is now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.97.76 (talk) 21:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Characters page

Shouldn't someone put up a "List of Phineas and Ferb Characters" page? Bluecatcinema (talk) 12:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The characters are pretty well covered in the synopsis section. Tenk you veddy much. --Wack'd ^{Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork!} 12:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

well, I have to say the current characters page needs revising. It has a lot of POV'd statements, but at least it is mostly accurate--76.24.190.218 (talk) 01:52, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

When were the character's last names revieled?

See headline. Tenk you veddy much. --Wack'd ^{Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork!} 20:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Who Knows? Possibly rumours (English spelling)? Malpass93 (talk) 12:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

In the companion episode to "I, Brobot" (they visit England, I forget the title), Candace introduces herself as "Candace Flynn" and Ferb is "Ferb Fletcher." the dad's parents are "Grandma and Grandpa Fletcher." 75.13.59.94 (talk) 00:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)oddmountain

Yeah, so, all of their last names were basically said, like, scattered around then series:

• Phineas: "Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror", surf board contest announcer called him "Phineas Flynn" when he started surfing.
• Ferb: "A Hard Day's Knight" , His Grandparents(his Dad's parents) are referred to as having the last name "Fletcher" (Note: Before that, someone put it on the internet, most likely one of the creators or the channel).
• Candace: "A Hard Day's Knight", Like said above, Candace introduces herself as having this last name. Even though Phineas' last name was said to be Flynn in "Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror" and "Raging Bully", this is still considered the first time her last name is said.
• Isabella: "It's a mud, mud, mud world", The TV announcer addresses her a "Little Isabella Garcia-Shapiro...", and also in "Mom's Birthday", her mom is called "Mrs. Garcia-Shapiro" by Phineas on the phone.
• Buford: Actually never said so far to be "Von Stomp", but it was leaked onto the internet probably by a channel worker or crew member.
• Baljeet: Same thing, "Patel" was never said, just leaked onto internet.

-Excelsior!, SF Dude, 7 August, 2008, 11:57 —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Whatcha Doin'?

On the show the Suite Life of Zack and Cody I have heard London use Isabella's catchphrase, " twice, in the exact same manner that Isabella says it. Is this noteworthy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.243.179 (talk) 01:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

It's WP:OR, unless somewhere else (that is notable) has already made the comparison. Epass (talk) 23:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, knowing that the suite life of zack and cody and phineas and ferb are both on the same network, it makes perfect sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.97.76 (talk) 21:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Images?

Should we put up any images, such as images of the characters?--Yenaldooshi (talk) 22:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep! Make sure that it follows the rules, though. QAE 01:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Bajleet!

I think that this line from Bajleet should be removed "1% interesting anyways." It is a little un-neutral. It is an Opinion. And that Shouldn't be there. I am Removing. Any complaints should be posted on my Talk Page. Please and Thank You. --Obaidz96 (talk) 00:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article could use a clean up. Songs are in the running gags section, some of the trivia is disputable, and flow could be improved. Suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Kupo (talk • contribs) 01:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Half of the info in the article isn't relavent to the programme. For fans of the show I can understand that it is nice to have a collection of information, like songs and detailed character summaries but if you want to find out about the show, it isn't relavent. Firstly, the character summaries are too long, I think maybe there should only be summaries for the main characters. The cast section is irrelavent because the information is already in the characters section. To be honest, the 'running gags and catchphrases' and a list of 'ferb's lines' really aren't relavent. Ferb's lines could be moved to Wikiquote since that is really where quotations should go. Mouseinthehouse (talk) 16:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Ages

Phineas & Ferb are NOT 8 and 11. Their ages are NEVER stated! I Co-created the show... You gotta trust me on this. PLEASE! Signed, Jeff "Swampy" Marsh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.128.192.4 (talk) 16:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

When did they say how old Phineas and Ferb are? It seems very unlikely that Disney Channel, which is aimed to older children, would make the main character eight years old. I'm going to delete the ages because they really don't seem to be provable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.243.179 (talk) 21:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Somebody put the ages back after I deleted them. Somebody had better show me proof of Phineas and Ferb's ages or I'll keep deleting them.

As one of the craetors of the show, I can say without fear of contradiction that Phineas is NOT 8 and Ferb is NOT 11. We DO NOT give the actual ages of Phineas and Ferb... Honest.

Could whoever is reverting all of my edits JUST STOP!!? Or at least look at this talk page. GOD!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.243.179 (talk) 21:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Candace is not 14, she is 15. On the Disny Channel minisite, she put that she is "a very mature 15" I fixed the mistake on her biography. -Anime27life is full of wonders (talk) 03:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, she is 15. But someone put she's 16 and on her page 14. I'll fix that. PacManFreak (talk) 01:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Every single stinking time I check the site, the ages are still there!!! For the love of God, the people who are doing this, just stop!!PLEASE!!! Swampy Marsh said that Phineas and Ferb's ages are never said, and the other co-creator, Dan Povenmire, said the same thing on Youtube.He also confirmed Candace is 15, and the only hint he gave is that the boys are younger than her and are the same age! So please stop putting PHINEAS AND FERB'S AGES!!! - Super Flash, 7:00, 4 August, 2008 —Preceding undated comment was added at 23:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

False Information

I attempted to correct all mistakes on this page, but, i failed. Mistakes on this page include:

Doug Funnie In the article, ferb is actually listed as Doug, when in fact thats incorrect

Candace

Although Hannah is a show on the same network, she isn't involved with this show whatsoever. Candace is voiced by ashley tisdale.

Isabella

Adrienne Bailon is also involved with disney channel such as the cheetah girls movies and the group as well. But, shes not a voice actor in this show... Isabella is voiced by alyson stoner..

The page should be locked. It was re-vandalized(and undone).

It should be locked. I'm not sure how to edit it and I'm not too familiar with the show, but a lot of the information listed is completely untrue. Fix it. Chekfreshy (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Jennifer Nhu

So what are you doing now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.122.43.46 (talk) 01:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

What will season 2 be about

What will season 2 be about some thing like the gang back in school —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.205.55 (talk) 08:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Season 2 will be about Phineas and Ferb. It's not like every season has to be a major story arc. What the heck did you expect? (24.47.88.195 (talk) 21:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC))

Use of "Ferb" on "Rocko's Modern Life"

Years before this show, "Rocko's Modern Life" used the name "Ferb" as a running gag of sorts. Both Jeff "Swampy" Marsh and Dan Povenmire wrote for "Rocko" - do you think this warrants inclusion as trivia of some kind, that the name "Ferb" predates the show?--76.234.22.197 (talk) 16:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Trivia is rarely relavent (as in, not really necessary in the article to begin with). Aside from this, that information is a bit of a stretch to include IMO. Pyrotics (talk) 20:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal

The individual character pages do not have significant coverage of the characters in reliable secondary sources per Wikipedia:Notability (fiction)#Elements of fiction. The character pages are full of in universe information and are slight rewrites of the characters' biographies from this page. Aspects (talk) 19:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I like it. It's more fun if they have their own pages. PLEASE keep Phineas and Ferb characters pages existant. I wrote three of them, and that's just throwing two hours of my time down the toilet. PsychoSchuyler —Preceding comment was added at 02:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Not to insult anyone, but I believe that they should be merged. There is just not enough information to keep them seperate at this time. As the show progresses, and the public recieves more information, then we can have seperate pages for them. It is just a sugestion and if there is an overwelming public support for keeping the pages separate at this time, then we do not need to listen to my suggestion. But still, I vote for a merger. No hard feelings were intended in this comment. Primus Agustus Magnus (talk) 23:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)Primus Agustus Magnus

If the main article get something added about Dr. Dofin whatever his name is they should be meerged —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.13.87 (talk) 02:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think they need to be merged. The person is right, not enough info. I love the show, big fan, but the info would be more accessible in the characters were expanded on the main page. WaddleDee (talk) 22:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I would support a merger as well -- it seems that each of the character articles is half about the other characters -- merging would give a more complete single article with centralized info. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 02:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

The articles are well written, if anything I think that we should just cut the character info here. The pages detail relationships to the other characters, which seems more organized than cramming everything into a long paragraph. Why not just keep each character's info to a couple of sentances at most, with all the other information that isn't already in the articles being transferred over there? Ageofe (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the main problem is we are forgetting the fact that Wiki it is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a collection of fan pages. There's no purpose in splitting the information in a lot of different pages instead of condensing all relevant information in one single page. Before the main page was cleaned, the phrase "Phineas and Ferb are stepbrothers" was present in almost every paragraph, and the names of the cast members were continuously repeated along the text making the pages almost unreadable. You don't need 10 different pages to repeat the same information over and over. As a suggestion, take a look at the pages of El Tigre and Mucha Lucha. All pertinent information it is condensed as much as possible in one single page. Note most of the information included on the characters individual pages has been incorporated in the main page already, so those additional pages are not longer needed. User_talk:Lobbot 22:02, 05 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I guess watching just one main page IS easier than watching a whole bunch of individual character pages...Ageofe (talk) 13:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that it should not be merged it should have single pages for the main characters. You get more info and if you add all the information to one page it will look cluttered. Wikigirl16 (talk) 16:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep them apart, there is no reason to merge them.

I oppose the merge myself, simply on the basis of size. ----DanTD (talk) 19:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it is fine the way it is, with separate pages for each character. It allows for a little bit more detail on each character.Buckandbronco (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hidden Appearances

A lot of the Hidden Appearances have to do with songs from one episode appearing in another episode (like Gitchie Gitchie Goo and I'm Lindana and I Wanna Have Fun). Maybe they can be condensed into one or two bullets instead of the 5 or 6 there are now? Randompeoplesunited (talk) 18:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Phineas likes Stacy?

In which episode can I see that? Or was this a mistake and the writer means Isabella? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.113.255.146 (talk) 12:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

definitly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.97.76 (talk) 21:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Confusion

Okay, folks. I've been watching this show a lot lately, but I have a question. When our local TV guide was previewing it on the back cover, they said that Phineas and Ferb were "stepbrothers", and this article backs it up. However, I think the writers of the show made a goof with their math. It's stated in the episode "Dude, We're Getting the Band Back Together" that their first kiss was as a Luve Handel concert, but I also believe they said that the band was out in the eighties and/or nineties. This wouldn't make sense as all, seeing as Candace is only fourteen, and if this takes in present time, that would mean she was born in 1993-1994, depending on when her birthdate falls...yet Ferb has an English accent, while the others don't. ...oh, my brain aches. Cheers. SuperDMChan (talk) 14:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Look, so the great Dan Povenmire said on a Youtube comment answer to one of my questions about the same thing that the way they see it is Love Handel was an 90s Hair Band. So, when the unmarried Linda and Lawrence were there, baby Phineas and toddler Candace were at home with their respected babysitters, while lil' baby Ferb did the same. Since Candace is 15 and was born on July 11th(since that was the airdate for her birthday episode), so it would make sense for her birthday to be in 1993. As for the other questions, like I said, the Phineas and Ferb were all ready babies, and Candace was a toddler, so they all had all ready gained whatever kind of speech pattern or accent from their birth parents. And finally, the band concert was probably in mid-to-late 90s, thus the fact that Phineas and Ferb were babies, while Candace was a toddler. (I know I repeated th same things a lot, but I wanted to make sure you understand. And you should read much into things like this, because curiosity leads to clarification, which leads to a happy life. Hope you understand things now.) S. Flash, 11: 24, 7 August, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.54.73 (talk) 15:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

It is a cartoon show. Don't read too much into anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iancurtis (talk • contribs) 00:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Phineas and Doug?

On the sentence that says "Phineas and Doug will return for a second season", that should be changed to Phineas ond Ferb.

I'll be editing that stuff. Whoever changed that must not think Phineas and Ferb is real. It is very real, and actually once somebody edited 5 episodes of Phineas and Ferb! And now someone deleted all of them! Phineas and Ferb on Wikipedia is falling down, and we need MAJOR help! If someone could help Little Mr. Me Who Doesn't Know How To Make Charts, I'd REALLY appreciate it! --TheMinigolfMaster111 (talk) 18:15, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalisim: Phineas & Doug: Starring Miley Cyrus as Hannah Montana?

Thank-you finally to whoever edited the article. Phineas & Doug: Starring Miley Cyrus? What The? I fixed a few errors of Phineas and Doug, but not all of them. Thanks again! Click on my User page and click on disscusion whoever edited it. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ex-vandalisim (talk • contribs) 01:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

I wouldn't have a problem with deleting the entire trivia/goofs/whatev section. it really doesn't contribute to the article, with the exception of the first one about what Phineas and Ferb is a play on. Deleting all that information might be a little drastic to some people, and I usually like trivia sections, so i'm willing to be convinced that it should stay before I go ahead and erase most of them. Ageofe (talk) 22:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Songs, and Doofensmirtchs Inventions

i don't think there should be a whole section for the songs, and inventions. i know the songs used to be on the episodes, and i moved them, but it would probably be better like that. just a suggestion. --72.128.43.189 (talk) 01:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

that was actually me Writergirlrocks talk 01:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the inventions should go, and maybe the songs could somehow be fit into the episode descriptions. We don't need to have a lot of lists. Ageofe (talk) 12:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Cast

Shouldn't that be on the SPANISH article, not on the english article. I understand that people who speak spanish read english too, but I still think it shouldn't be on the english article, it doesn't make any sense at all. And the English cast shouldn't be on the spanish article page. DLWDWFreek (talk) 18:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, people! WHAT IS UP?!! I think this article needs a re-write. Talk about it on my talk page please. Ex-vandalisim (talk) 18:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I AM DELETING THE SPANISH CAST

If you have a problemm write on my talk page!entertainU (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

thanx24.17.184.196 (talk) 20:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

grammatical and spelling corrections

I made some grammatical and spelling corrections to this article and added some supporting content. I hope that's all right with everyone.

buckandbronco

Candice subplot

Buckandbronco (talk) 01:54, 8 August 2008 (UTC)I can't understand at all what is being referred to in the Candice subplot section. Someone needs to fix it.

Candace and Agent P Subplot edits

This is partially in response to the above section about Candace's subplots. I rehauled both sections (wrote them from scratch) in an attempt to hopefully clarify what is trying to be said. Hopefully I haven't added something that is incorrect. It should be, however, clearer now. Pyrotics (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)