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Start Date[edit]

Can somebody please edit the preview date so it is formatted correctly? I didn't know how to and that's the only way to end the premiere dispute. THANK YOU!! DLWDWFreek (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC).

Editing[edit]

Please insert your comments above this line so people don't have to sift through the GA review to navigate the page. Divod (talk) 02:48, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Main Image[edit]

It's the size of the entire window, can someone find a way to shrink it please? >_< --Alpha299 (talk) 01:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== Episode articles == phineas eated a doodoo ferb drinkeded orange juice that was read that came from a cow

User:TheSimpsonsRocks and User:King007ofrock have been making Episode articles that are on non-notable episodes. I am not sure they know the notability rules, or what.

These articles include:

Do what you want with them. They generally seem like some work was put into them. Blake (Talk·Edits) 13:30, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

IDK about these. I've already redirected Chronicle of Meap and Bubble Boys, but the others have at least a bit of production/work put into them. I think for now I'll just tag them and wait for an outside opinion. The Flash {talk} 00:41, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I came here to ask about this too. Is there any rhyme or season to this, or should they just be redirected to the list page? None of them seem to be notable. Fences&Windows 21:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
"Quantum Boogaloo" has already been expanded and is now a GA, and "Meap" has been redirected; the others could easily be redirected. The Flash {talk} 17:54, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb songs[edit]

1.Today Is gonna Be A Great Day (Theme Song, by Bowling For Soup) you smell like you eated a doo doo 2.Gitchie Gitchie Goo-Extended Version(by Phineas And The Ferb Tones) 3.Backyard Beach (Ferb) 4.Busted ( Candace and Vanessa, Dr.Doofenshmirtz' Daughter) 5.Perry the Platypus Theme 6.S.I.M.P.(Squirrels In My Pants) 7.I'm Lindana And I Wanna Have Fun 8.My Nemesis ( by Dr.Doofenshmirtz) 9.My Goody Two Shoes Brother (Dr.Doofenshmirtz) 10.Disco Minuature Golfing Queen (by Laura Dickinson) 11.My Undead Mummy (Danny Jacob) 12.I Love You Mom (Candace) 13.Ready For The Bettys (The Bettys) 14.When We Didn't Get Along (Danny Jacob) 15.He's A Bully (Robbie Wyckoff) 16.Truck Drivin' Girl (Danny Jacob) 17.Do Nothing day ( Jeremy and Candace) 18.E.V.I.L. B.O.Y.S (By Candace) 19.Fabulous ( Phineas And Bobby Fabulous) 20.Little Brothers (Stacy) 21.Let's Take A Rocket Ship To Space (Danny And The Jay Tones) 22.Queen Of Mars (Candace) 23.Chains On Me (The Smile Away Reformatory Glee Club Featuring Dan Povenmire) 24.Phinedroids and Ferbots 25.Ain't Got Rythm (Sherman and Phineas) 26.You Snuck Your Way Right Into my Heart (Love Handel) 69.29.87.121 (talk) 02:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Cast[edit]

I hate to bring up a previously-discussed topic, but I really have to object to the cast table featuring photos. The real-life appearance of the voice actors adds absolutely nothing to the article. All of the voice actors have their own pages, so readers can follow those links if they want to learn more about the voice actors. In addition to plain irrelevance, it looks cluttered (pictures are not remotely uniform in size, causing a weird aesthetic) and there isn't even an image for one of the voice actors featured. This was simply an awful choice. Dfsghjkgfhdg (talk) 18:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

It does need to be removed, as it does in Family Guy and The Simpsons. See this discussion for an excellent discussion about it. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 20:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror[edit]

I propose that the above article be merged into thsi as it completely failsd the general notability guidelines and specifically WP:EPISODE. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 23:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Super strong oppose to merge: There are plenty of sources to support this article and plenty of critical opinions. Your argument is ridiculous. The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 00:24, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

How does it fail either of those? It seems to have good amount of relaible, third-party publications, and has sections that go far beyond plot summary and in-universe information. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 00:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose merge. What can I say that Scapler hasn't? Clearly, this article passes WP:N as there are plenty of reliable third-party sources to establish notability. The articles are well-written, well sourced and contains plenty of information beyond the plot-and-trivia-lists that most television episodes articles unfortunately end up becoming. — Hunter Kahn 01:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Please state how the article meets the criteria in WP:EPISODE. Where is the "substantial coverage" in reliable sources? Please remember that WP:BURDEN requires that this be provided. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 03:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Let's see. In the article, it includes reviews from DVD Talk, DVD Verdict, DVD Town, Toon Zone, and Wired magazine. As seen here, both DVD Talk and DVD Verdict have been cited in reliable sources, and recent publications from the sites come from professional reviewers (Note especially that places like CNN use them as sources). Toon Zone appears to be run by fans, so unless the reliability of the particular writer is established, that one is out. If you look at Wired's staff here, you can search there names and find that nearly all of them wrote for a number of reliable publications before going there. It has good editorial review as well, and thus is a RS, not to mention the fact that it is widely used as a source in a number of quality articles, including featured articles like BioShock. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 04:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Have you read those reviews? Can you point out specific sentences that review this episode, remembering that a one or two line plot synopsis is not a review?. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 00:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Toon Zone is cited in a plethora of animation journals, books, and other published works, so that there should establish it's reliability as well. The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 18:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────So we have: [1] A Disney Channel press release, which gives a summary plot and cast for the episode; [2] a line line tease and cast list; [3] an online game, no mention of that episode; [4] a one line plot summary; [5] a nine word comment on the episode title; [6] a short plot summary; [7] one sentence plot summary; [8] a track listing from Disney records, no mention of beaches, gnomes, lawns or parties; [9] soundtrack review mentions a track which may have been in the episode, but no mention of the episode; [10] a passing mention of them constructing a beach; [11] no mention at all of this episode; [12] a link to another Wikipedia article {not a WP:RS) which lists a song as having been in the episode. None of this is "substantial coverage" of the episode. WP:EPISODE clearly states: "While each episode on its own may not qualify for an article, it is quite likely that sources can be found to support a series or season page, where all the episodes in one season (or series) are presented on one page. (See examples listed below). Such pages must still be notable, and contain out-of-universe context, and not merely be a list of episode titles or cast and crew: Wikipedia is not a directory." There is nothing in the article Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror that asserts or supports the notability of this episode, which is why it needs to be merged or deleted. The series has sufficient notability, but not the individual episodes. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 18:46, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Your so called "justifications" as to the uselessness of the sources is completely and utterly ridiculous. I'll go through some of the glaringly ludicrous statements here, which is the all around majority. Let me start with just how completely and utterly dumbfounded I am as to how you aren't grasping anything at all with how these sources are being treated. Everything having to do with the song means it has to do with the episode. It matters not if there is no specific reference to the episode, there are specific references to the song. The fact that the song is covered itself asserts notability. Next, the Wikipedia page itself is not being cited. The special is. If you decided to even bother a tiny little glance at the GAR page I mentioned this quite vehemently. Onto the reviews: Some of your concerns with them leads me to believe you didn't read clearly enough. Just because there is a little statement that is critical of the episode at hand does not mean it isn't substantial enough, especially when there a plethora of them. If you did a bit more research as to how WP:TV discussions on the notability of episode articles, you'd know that a reception section is the key to an article asserting notability. I am sorry for sounded sharp in the tongue and belligerent, but your argument as to how these sources aren't being used accurately or how they aren't good enough for you is crap, and it leads me to believe you possibly don't like the subject matter at hand or am simply being outright difficult for no justifiable reason. Thank you, The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 23:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Meanwhile, I urge others to give their opinion on Jezhotwells' argument so I can get some different interpretations of this situation. The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 23:24, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I still contend that the sources give notability; remember that the WP:GNG states, "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material", so reviews of the DVD that can one pull this much reception from have enough coverage. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 01:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Please show me the references that give "substantial coverage" to the episode Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror. Remember that a two or three line plot description is not "Substantial coverage". –– Jezhotwells (talk) 11:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Scalper and I have each explained this throughougly. You're avoiding our clear fire explanations in order to stick with your own opinion, and that itself is incredibly thickheaded. The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 18:36, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I am sorry, but you have "explained" nothing. You have asserted that the episode is reviewed, when in fact examination of the "sources" shows that it has not been reviewed, just mentioned in lists of episodes. Your comprehension of Wikipedia policies and guidelines, seems tenuous, to say the least, as is evidenced by your statement: Everything having to do with the song means it has to do with the episode. It matters not if there is no specific reference to the episode, there are specific references to the song. The series is undoubtedly notable, but this particular episode is not and the burden of proof is upon you to prove notability, which you have not done. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 00:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
I shall now let the remainder of this discussion be building a consensus towards this discussion so this isn't just a futile argument between you and I. The majority of opinions thus far assert that the consensus is leaning towards keeping the article, and I will let the community build the discussion with their opinions until a consensus is reached. Good day, The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 18:43, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Oppose merge. - It seems a little silly to have an article about one episode of a tv series, no matter how excellent that series may be. However, the article is well sourced and appears to easily clear the notability hurdle. - JeffJonez (talk) 18:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Movie sources[edit]

Where are the sources that say the movie is rated TV-PG when Disney has only done 1 or 2 other DCOMs with the same rating? Let Us Phineas and Ferb Wiki users know soon69.228.210.138 (talk) 23:18, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and what's with the sudden new date, trailers, and people in the cast?! --24.188.236.175 (talk) 23:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
All of that information was entirely false and made up, so it has been removed to avoid any further confusion. The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 15:36, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you people know, the movie article is proposed to be deleted May 3rd. Please use puppy-dog eyes (like the Fireside Girls when they sell cupcakes) to save the article and find good info by then so it can be kept. 69.228.210.138 (talk) 18:17, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
The article does not need to be kept until the movie actually comes out, in which I will personally overall it to meet standards and notability. Merely be patient until then. The Flash I am Jack's complete lack of surprise 23:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


Never mind of the puppy-dog method since it is now safe, but Patel needs to be deleted since we don't know his last name (Baljeet) on the movie article. 69.228.89.220 (talk) 03:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

BTW, Baljeet's last name has been cofirmed to be Rai by Jeff "Swampy" Marsh and has been added to all pages that needed it. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 02:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Swampy Marsh has scrapped Rai (despite its use in offical sources) and settled on Tjinder. User:Alexschmidt711 21:05 EST, 26 December 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 02:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

adult appeal[edit]

Look, folks, according to wp:lead each section of the article should be mentioned in the lead. There is an entire paragraph on its appeal to adults:

Variety noted the show's appeal to all ages with its "sense of wit and irreverence."[34] Similar reviews have emphasized the series' popularity with adults; Elastic Pops Rebecca Wright wrote, in a review for the volume one DVD, "As an adult, I really enjoyed watching this Phineas and Ferb DVD, and I think it is one that the whole family can enjoy." Wright also called the series' "irreverent style" reminiscent of The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle.[35] Wired's Matt Blum has stated in reviews on the series that he "can stand to watch just about anything with (his) kids, but he actually looks forward to watching Phineas and Ferb with them."[10] Notable adult celebrities who have openly considered themselves fans of the series include Bob Eubanks, Anthony LaPaglia, Ben Stiller, Chaka Khan, and Jake Gyllenhaal.[36][37]

The fact of this show's appeal to adults (If you want OR. I do know a 71 year old woman who regularly says "whatcha doin?") is one of the most notable things about it. There seem to be a whole lot of bizarre superstitious ideas about what doesn't belong in a lead. Defining and notable characteristics do.μηδείς (talk) 01:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Like I said in the edit suimmary, yoi need a source to back it up, and 138.23.235.103 also said it was OR as well. So there! Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 02:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I think it does belong in the lede, but not the first sentence. Saying that it is "an American children's animated television comedy series with appeal to an adult audience" in my mind seems that the series is geared towards both adults and children. I don't think that is the case here. I believe it has been written for children but also appeals to adults secondarily. I'm sure there is a way of saying this without some deceptive implications. BOVINEBOY2008 02:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I understand that. Adding "happens" should make it better.μηδείς (talk) 02:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Why would adults like it? There's no adult humor, it's a kid-friendly show. I hate most of them/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by VegetaSaiyan (talkcontribs) 00:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Tri-state area?[edit]

From the first sentence of the "Plot" section:

The show follows the adventures of stepbrothers Phineas Flynn (Vincent Martella) and Ferb Fletcher (Thomas Sangster), who live in the fictional town of Danville, somewhere in the Tri-State area.

Which tri-state area? The relevant article speaks of 62 different locations in the USA that fit this description. Nyttend (talk) 13:13, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I think that's the whole point. We're not suppose where exactly they live. JDDJS (talk) 13:17, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb's Live Tour[edit]

There is no section of the article regarding the Live Tour. Perhaps the following could be added: LIVE TOUR On August 21st, 2011, Disney launched 'Phineas and Ferb Live!' The 2 1/2 hour show features live actors in costumes for the characters. Some are full body suits, including Phineas, Ferb, Buford, and Perry. Others, including Candace, Jeremy, Isabella, Dr. Doofenshmirtz, and Baljeet, are wearing costumes that resemble the character's clothing and masks with the character's haircuts and large goggles for eyes. A few backup dancers and a henchman for Dr. Doofenshmirtz also appear. The show features one original song written for the production, while the rest are re-worked versions of the songs from the television show made to fit the characters singing them. Dr. Doofenshmirtz also sings a medley of Broadway hits, including 'One' from 'A Chorus Line' and 'I Feel Pretty' from 'West Side Story.'

PLOT An animated Phineas and Ferb appear on a large screen trying to make the most of the last day of summer, when Phineas notices that there's an audience watching. Discovering that they can't walk through the screen, Phineas and Ferb use a heretofore unnoticed slide to get onto the stage, where they decide to put on the best live show ever, including the one song written expressly for the show. When the animated versions go down the slide, the live action characters appear. Others from the cast, including Isabella, Baljeet, Buford, Candace, Jeremy, and two Fireside girls quickly join in. Meanwhile, Agent P appears (with his theme music), beats up some generic bad guys, and gets his mission from an animated Major Monogram- to stop Dr. Doofenshmirtz and his audience-controllinator.

Phineas, Ferb, and the rest of the crew then start brainstorming about what to do for their show. Ferb suggests a beach, which everyone agrees to, because a beach will help them think of something to do their show about. This leads into the song 'Backyard Beach.' Then, they end up having so many ideas, that Phineas and Ferb decide to make an idea mash up machine, which will combine their ideas. We go back to Perry and Dr. D., where it's revealed that Doofenshmirtz has always wanted to perform in a Broadway musical, but cannot due to his lack of talent. With his audience-controllinator, though, he will be able to force to people to admire him. He then lunches into a medley of Broadway show tunes. The canes used by Doofenshmirtz and his backup dancers eventually become the bars for a trap for Agent P. Afterwards, we go back to Phineas and Ferb, where the machine is now complete, but they decide to give the audience a break for intermission.

After intermission, some small kids are brought on stage from the audience to test the audience-controllinator. Dr. Doofenshmirtz commands them to dance, and they do. Then, Phineas and Ferb being mashing up ideas. First, Isabella's marshmallow roasting idea and Buford's monster truck idea are combined to make a monster truck with marshmallows for tires, but not before Phineas & Ferb appear in marshmallow-tired go-carts. The song 'Truck Driving Girl' is re-purposed as 'Truck Driving Boy.' They then add in Baljeet's Bollywood idea to launch into another musical number. Back to Doof and Perry, where the audience-controllinator isn't working on the whole audience, and needs a few adjustments. Phineas' miniature gold idea and Jeremy's desire for disco are combined, and the song 'Disco Miniature Golfing King' (originally 'Queen' in the television show) plays. Giant beach balls that look like golf balls are launched into the audience. Candace then wants her idea presented by itself, which is to try on pants. She finally finds the perfect pair, bringing on the songs 'I'm Fabulous.' Now satisfied, she allows her idea to be combined with the Fireside Girls' idea about cute furry animals, resulting in the song 'S.I.M.P. (Squirrels in My Pants.)' Before Phineas and Ferb can then combine everybody's ideas, the machine breaks, and they need a new handle for it. Perry and Doofenshmirtz fight, resulting in Doof's audience-controllinator bring broken. Phineas and Ferb come across the audience-controllinator, and discover that a part of it is just the right size to fix their machine. Upon discovering the audience-controllinator's true purpose, they decide to control the sun so that it never goes down and summer can truly last forever. The cast launch into 'Summer Belongs to You,' and a curtain call.

Merchandise: Available merchandise includes a program with games, photos, and more; on-site photos with Phineas and Ferb standees against a backdrop of their backyard, a Perry the Platypus mug, an Agent P disguise kit, and cotton candy that comes with a Phineas hat (a cone with red foam hair mimicking Phineas' traditional look).

Babadavis1 (talk) 16:23, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

You need sources and too shorten all this information. JDDJS (talk) 20:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Jim Carrey?[edit]

The source listed immediately after Jim Carrey is cited as being a possible contender for playing Doofenschmirtz—even if this is only an example—does not mention Jim Carrey at all. In fact, I don't think the source had very much information whatsoever. This may be post-GA referencing, but it should be fixed. I got excited there for a minute. – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 22:05, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Subtittles?[edit]

In Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina the show is dubbed in Serbian language, is not subtittled (only the songs as they're keep in english).
Watch here, here, here, here, or just search in internet by "Фића и Феђа", "Fića i Feđa" or "Fica i Fedja". --Gabriel M.C. 200 (talk) 16:17, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Franchise article[edit]

I think this article should be spilt with a an article about the franchise. It could have info. about the live tour, movie, spin-offs, toys and other merchandise. Caringtype1 (talk) 20:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I'd say go along the way of the Toy Story page. 75.111.18.181 (talk) 05:53, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Mission Marvel[edit]

I started to create a page on the upcoming episode at User:JDDJS/Phineas and Ferb: Mission Marvel, which I will make into a full article once there is enough content. Considering that this is the first Disney/Marvel crossover, I feel that this page could expand fast. Please help contribute to it. JDDJS (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

International Release[edit]

Why this was deleted? It was a very useful information, and even more for people that investigate about foreign dubs, I know the references list was almost empty, but the official websites could serve as an actual reference too, and dubs without official website still had sources like articles or videos. In any case, I find completely out of place the deletion of this. --Gabo M.C. 200 (talk) 21:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

The information might be useful, but it is not necessary. The official websites do not say when it first aired in those countries. If you can find reliable sources proving that the show premiered in those countries on those dates, then you can add them back in the article. JDDJS (talk) 21:59, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Additional Marble Mover Challenge Sources[edit]

One additional source for the this section is a promotional poster. My concern with this resource is that it is not hosted by the content owners, rather it is a copy on another site. The original copy is no longer availible on the Disney Channel Australia site. Another additional source is the YouTube video made by the creators of the show congratulating (and referencing) the winners of the competition. My concern with this is that there is ambiguity over whether the video has rights to use the copyrighted material. As the channel that has the video appears to be owned by one of the creators then I would assume the creator is legally able to use the copyrighted content. I am new to Wikipedia so I was not sure about how to handle this. Flankattack (talk) 13:02, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Categorization[edit]

Here are three categories that the article can fit in:

108.210.216.127 (talk) 16:21, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

This article is about the TV show and not the individual characters. JDDJS (talk) 20:06, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Where are the articles for the individual characters? Nope, that's a pronoun (talk) 21:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Under their names JDDJS (talk) 23:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2014[edit]

2601:B:9080:451:C0A1:2DF5:FD08:3AD2 (talk) 18:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Phineas and Ferb on Hiatus for 2014[edit]

http://www.bubbleblabber.com/disney-xd-new-home-wander-yonder/

A sentence or two needs to be added to the main section about how Phineas and ferb will be on hiatus for a while. Link above, scroll to the bottom of the article --24.72.210.195 (talk) 02:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

They'd had breaks of this length before, no really needed to put in. 75.111.52.129 (talk) 23:01, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Emmy[edit]

Someone please add "Thanks But No Thanks" to table of awards for Primetime Emmy. Was just nominated. http://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/Downloads/66th-nominations-list.pdf

PS, the table on this page is unlike other animated series award sections... EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:42, 10 July 2014 (UTC)