User talk:Jpgordon

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RD boldness

You did the right thing but prepare thyself for the wrath of the inclusionists.  ;-) -hydnjo talk 21:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Quick question

Would it not have been preferable to move the horescrap thread to the RD talk page where someone might take the time to explain to Endless Dan why his comment was unacceptable? Just a thought, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 22:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

No, Dan knows exactly what's goin' on. Sorry for intruding on your talk but this is important. hydnjo talk 22:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Then he's a troll and all further comments should be deleted. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 22:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

...before someone responds. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 22:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:AndreaTrue77

Blocked user is wondering why they were blocked. I assume it has something to do with a CU, so I figured I'd ask you to tell them. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

ArbCom injuctions

If I'd like a member of ArbCom to take a look at some diffs and possibly enforce an injunction, does that need to be filed at WP:AE? Per Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Geogre-William_M._Connolley#Temporary_injunction, Giano II can only be blocked by an ArbCom member, so I'd like somebody to take a look at diff 1 where Giano calls Chillum a "useless twit" and diff 2 where Giano tells MZMcBride to "stop stirring and trolling and get lost". As I understand it, the civility ruling under Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/IRC isn't officially suspended until the current case passes (though that may just be a technicality). Thanks, - auburnpilot talk 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

• File at AE. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 21:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement#Giano II. Thanks, - auburnpilot talk 21:10, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Tenmei and Nick Dowling

I did not understand that it was bad form to modify my statement, but the gravamen remains the same; albeit with less words. --Tenmei (talk) 00:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Suite Life

Do you think i can revert it now --Cory Malik (talk) 06:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

• No. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 06:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Unblock

My IP Address needs to be unblocked for the computer i was block on. Can u do it. (answer on talk page) --Cory Malik (talk) 06:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

• If you're editing here, you're unblocked. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 21:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Jerk?

How shall I put this? Perhaps in simple terms is best.

1) Discussion pages are not for asking general questions about the content of the article. As an admin you know this, and I have no need to tell you this. As an admin,I shouldn't be telling you this. 2) I admit that my action was a bit unfair to the new user. New users are often hot-headed and demand answers, believing it to be their right. Of course no is entitled to answers, least of all at inappropriate discussion pages. You have satisfied this persons pride. 3) It is our duty as experienced users, and yours especially not to allow bad habits to emerge among new users. You have effectively endorsed the new user calling me a jerk. I won't argue whether I am a jerk or not. But in the future, this user will have to find out that this is not the way to ask, nor respond if their post gets removed. If your aim was to help the user, you have failed by encouraging them in finding information in the wrong way. 4) I do not believe I gave a wrong answer. My answer was an agnostic one; I said that Jesus was a Jew. Because of point 1), that discussion pages are not for asking general questions, then we have no duty to answer them. I don't think that constitutes being a Jerk, when one simply does their duty in wikipedia by removing irrelevant material. But then again your the admin, you should know. 5) The Jesus talk page is regularly flooded with trolling and vandalism more than the Nile gets flooded with Snail parasites. Considering this in mind, you can excuse me if I were to wrongly identify inappropriate commenting as trolling, and "bite the newcomber". I am well aware of this rule, since I was never treated according to them when I first came to wikipedia. Why someone should care that Jesus underwent Bar mitzva is beyond me, and beyond wikipedia discussion pages as well.

The fact that I am telling you this, an admin of greater experience and higher wiki-standing than me - you may take with some offense in the same manner that I take with embarrassment. I will continue to uphold wikipedia rules and delete irrelevant material on discussion pages, regardless of rude comments, or your endorsing of them.

Respectfully,

Tourskin (talk) 00:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

• "Why someone should care that Jesus underwent Bar mitzva is beyond me, and beyond wikipedia discussion pages as well." Just because you can't comprehend the reason for a perfectly good question doesn't mean it's not a good question. In fact, it's a real good question. Since Jesus was Jewish, and since for modern Jewish people, a Bar Mitzvah is an important event; why the lack of mention of it? Ah, but it's actually a medieval ritual, that's why there's no mention. Your answer was wrong, and your expression of it was newbie biting. That's all. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 01:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Wrong answer? I said my answer was not trying to answer his question, so much as a response accompanying a removal of inappropriate material. It was a very good question in fact, but that doesn't its appropriate for wikipedia. Tourskin (talk) 02:07, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Your understanding of appropriateness is incorrect. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 02:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Really? Tell me I'm wrong if discussion pages are for improvement of the article only and not content? Note that I now realize that the user has given a second posting stating that they were wondering why it wasn't in the article. But I doubt that was his intention, or your reading of it. Tourskin (talk) 02:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, there you go. I assumed good faith; you decided not to. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 03:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

The question was displayed in a truncated form with its purpose (relating to the article) difficult to decipher - I applaud your ability at doing so. Tourskin (talk) 03:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Asking a basic biographical question is inherently relevant to the content of a biographical article. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 03:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

That was not what I said; I know that it is relevant to the content. You and I know that content alone does not merit discussion, but a discussion of the article's improvement.Tourskin (talk) 03:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you do me a favor?

The article OSU School of Medicine should be renamed to The Ohio State University School of Medicine. OSU is an acronym for Oklahoma State University and a few others, but Ohio State is rarely identified with OSU. But most importantly, the school of medicine calls itself by the full formal title that I would like to use. I can't make the move, because the redirect already exists. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 18:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• Place to request that is WP:RM. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 20:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

OrangeMarlin mentorship

[2]. Avruch ^T 15:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

• grrr. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I will never forgive FT2 for what he did to me. And now that there's a concerted effort to remove some of the pseudoscience around here, especially FT2's favorite crap, I'm going to do everything to help. Sorry if that offends you Avruch. But I wasn't treated fairly, and now I get to do something above board and completely within the rules of Wikipedia to make some changes for the better. Again, sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that posting was nothing but facts and an offer of support. And a warning that FT2 has a pattern of engaging in secret hearings to damage those who don't support his POV. Completely fair on my part. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 15:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I understand you have a reason to be upset, and your dismay has been validated by practically the entire community and the arbitration committee. What is wrong and inappropriate is discussing methods for destroying content written by FT2 because of your dismay, and its wrong to turn your dismay into a personal vendetta. It also conflicts with the tenor of your comments not that long ago, which is disappointing because I (and a lot of people) were impressed by them. Avruch ^T 15:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm also not sure that you're aware of the entire history of Peter Damian, and in particular his pursuit of FT2. Take a look at the current AN thread for some background. Avruch ^T 15:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Except if you read my contributions, you'd know I despise pseudoscientific cruft, without any reservations. I have basically done nothing to FT2, short of one passive aggressive statement, over the past month and a half since he tried to screw me. Now that I get to assist in ridding this encyclopedia of his favorite pseudoscientific cruft, well I just consider that a bonus. Yes, I think FT2 should have been run off this project. Yes, I hope this helps in some small way. Note his attempts to save his pet crap with suspect logic and poor sourcing. And yes, I know Peter Damian's background, his regular contributions to WR etc. I don't know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 15:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a battlefield, and this sort of rhetoric and personalization is not acceptable here. Please desist. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

OK. I'll delete my comments there. Let me growl internally. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 16:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I heard a lot of growling so I came to peek - Avruch has summed it up. Although I was initially against the mentorship proposal, excepting this incident, I was really impressed at the positive change (and progress made). Even if there's a lot of internal growling, keep it up - mentor & mentee! :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 03:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I growled publicly, which I shouldn't have done. Jpg took me back to the woodshed and gave me a right fine whippin'.  :) OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 04:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Fragments of Jade

I am sick and tired of that punk kid. That's the 3rd time they have referred to me as a "pervert" and I'm ready to sue their little ass. I don't want to see any record of that kid saying that on Wikipedia anymore. I'm so furious right now that I am going to politely ask you to forward this to where it needs to go, even though I know that I already know where to send it. Libel/slander are serious issues and this kid has gone too far. I appreciate your assistance in advance BMW(drive) 22:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

And I've been called a "psycho" and a "stalker"... She's so sweet. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 22:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

• Mm. Well, you need to stop with the legal threats -- please retract them immediately, or under Wikipedia policy, I will be forced to block you. I'll see what I can do about FoJ. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 22:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know who you are jpgordon, but if you are staff here, I would firmly advise you to look more into matters before handing out warnings. Users 88 and Bwilkins have been harassing me for well over a month now, and it is I who am sick and tired. I was off of Wiki for a long period of time after a lengthy incident where the two of them were both extremely rude and incorrigible. It's clear from their actions, 88 in particular, that they are constantly watching my contributions. Any edit I make, one of them will pop up to revert it or contest it, seemingly having no knowledge of the article's subject. I was involved in a dispute with another user, one of them appeared on my talk page to harass me over it when it was none of the business, while the other went to the page of the editor I was in a dispute with to badmouth me, before coming to my talk page and spouting off a bunch of offensive stuff, which is when I finally got fed up and called him a well-deserved name. On top of that all, 88 attempted to find out where I live and post my name and address on wiki. She thankfully mistook someone else for me, but she chased that person all over the internet and hunted down and posted a bunch of their personal info. Are you gonna tell me that is not seriously creepy and very off-putting? These two both need to grow up and stop their harassment. Look at my history-I'm never the one who comes to them first. One of them comes to me and starts something.Fragments of Jade (talk) 22:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)