Talk:Kevin Nalty

Notability concerns

The article needs more sources. He's well-known within YouTube, especially among fellow video bloggers, but you would have a hard time making that case. Here are some sources you can try to incorporate. You will need to find more, though, as I don't think these will be enough: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116061846176390116.html?mod=googlewsj http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/29/sitroom.02.html http://www.adweek.com/aw/search/article_display.jsp?schema=&vnu_content_id=1003316046&WebLogicSession=RUFWkjDeFeKxw7SMxz70SBzyFsZEXt3xeNfzgTdTpCcjbODMrgdU%7C591496716662496553/168887091/6/7005/7005/7002/7002/7005/-1 Ichormosquito 07:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Except in extreme circumstances, please don't delete material from talk pages. See Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. I'm trying to help you. Ichormosquito 07:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Notability to get an idea of what kind of sources you will need. Ichormosquito 08:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Web 2.0

Hello, here is something I wrote earlier for a wiki article called web page of nalts. It was speedily deleted. I do not know how to make text have links and blue letters and such. I hope, however, that someone can use this to make this article better... thanks! (The major point being that the users forced an executive decision to be reconsidered... Web 2.0 at its finest!)

Nalts demonstrated the power of Web 2.0 when, after being passed over by YouTube’s Partnership Placement program in May 2007, he posted a video called NAPPY on June 1, 2007, where he asked his fans to send a message to YouTube executives asking that he be re-considered. As of June 15, the video received 34,439 views, 6514 comments, 11 honors, and 648 video responses, making it the 7th most responded to video of all time. NAPPY stands for Nalts Advocates for Partnership Placement on YouTube.

In his videos, nalts does not refer to his wife, children, or others that he knows, by their names. Instead they are called WifeofNalts, ChildofNalts, BrotherofNalts, etc. After the NAPPY video, hundreds wanted to be something –ofnalts. Many YouTubers created accounts just for the event, and on June 12, 2007, YouTuber sukatra posted a video titled, “147OfNalts Usernames…And Counting.”

As of June 6, 2007, The NAPPY campaign was a success and nalts became a YouTube Partner, allowing him to earn revenue from advertisements placed next to videos.

Ajani57 08:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Here is the site for the FOX interview: http://one.revver.com/watch/115323/3331 Ajani57 08:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi- this is the CBS interview... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt28m51g2WY

Does the FOX interview above count a source? I'm also thinking that maybe the page on youtube showing him as a partner could count as a source. Ajani57 08:51, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Citation tags

I've just restored the citation tags on this article. As the tags have been deleted twice [1][2], without edit summary or discussion, I can't speak to why they were removed in the first place. If sources cannot be found, the claims should be removed. Victoriagirl 23:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• Sorry about those, I was preparing to edit those with citations. Sorry, I was having troubles.CoolKid1993 03:43, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

"Record 407 videos"

Does anyone actually KNOW the record? My guess is it's higher than 407 frankly.74.69.234.9 03:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Even at 700 I doubt this is a record.

Gaining notoriety

Didn't he gain it through the Video Genius video, not the farting machine one?JLAF 03:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

• Well, "Farting in Public" recieved 3 million views while "Viral Video Genius" recieved only 730,000 views. Either way, the article could be written to include both, if need be.CoolKid1993 21:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Notoriety is like infamy. People who do bad things gain it. I think it is better to say Nalty has gained notice or gained attention. Prominence might be too strong a word, but notoriety is just wrong.

Webby, sources

I think his nomination for a Webby is worth noting. Links to the news media segments might be worth adding, too, if they can be found. And that picture needs to abide by Wikipedia:Image use policy or the image patrol will keep deleting it. Ichormosquito 09:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Howdy- here's the blog on the webby honorree... http://nalts.wordpress.com/2007/04/26/nalts-does-webby-awards-chicken-prank/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.41.127 (talk) 11:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

"first gained notoriety by a video in which a teenager, named Spencer, uses a fart machine to fart in public places"

I disagree. The Viral Video Genius video was featured and he gained a lot of subscribers from it. --StormCommander 20:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

• And yet "Farting in Public" got 2,270,000 more views than "Viral Video Genius." They're both notable.CoolKid1993 18:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

The word "first" would imply first.... --StormCommander 16:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Politics & YouTube In Review

I know you think I am spamming, it is true, he is a blogger on my blog. You're just deleting it because you do not believe that he is. And even if I may or may have not mentioned it, but yes, he is an employee of WorldWide Publications & Media, my company, where he is my public relations director.

I have a right to have my information about Nalty as my employee and you really shouldn't have any right to delete it.

Here is the proof and read under "Assistant Editors" at http://politicsandyoutubeinreview.wordpress.com/about-the-pyir-blog-contributors/Djjackal0509 03:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• No, we keep deleting it because it isn't notable.CoolKid1993 10:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
• What the %$#@ does that mean? What the %$@# do you mean by notable?Djjackal0509 16:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
• No, I think I know what it is.....you don't think he should be associated with any blog other than his own. Goddamit, he gives me more advice about viral videos than he gave you guys! I think the article is very essential to Nalty.Djjackal0509 16:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
• When your blog gets 20,000 views a day, then you can add it to this article. Not everything that Nalts works on, including a blog written by a teenager, should be included in this article. I suggest you create an article titled "Politics and YouTube in Review" before you add it to an article that is more notable.
• For one, Nalty's blog doesn't even get 20,000 page views a day (maybe 7,500) and maybe it is not hard for him to get that many, but considering when he posts on my blog, the traffic increases. It will be pretty &^#%#%* hard to get that many people to view the blog. I have done everything from promotion on YouTube to the blog, from online radio to actually being in a radio station getting an interview about the blog and promoting it, but never seems to work. And next time, check your statistics before making an exaggerated comment about his site traffic.Djjackal0509 00:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
• Nalts' main viewership is not gathered from his blog, in fact, you'd practically have to watch one of Kevin's videos to even know about his blog. This article is not about his blog, thus is why it is hardly mentioned in the article, it's about his YouTube Channel which gets thousands of views that accumulate to more than you would think. A blog that regularly gets less than 5 comments per entry is not notable, in my opinion. Also, please refrain from swearing. It is not necessary. CoolKid1993 02:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
• One more question: How can it be possible for my inclusion of information of Nalts' page be inevitible and can remain untouched? I know you can't see the statistics and everything, but he is the only writer that has more page views (not including my article on a school mascot issue) on his posts than anyone else on my staff. I will really need your help on this one, so that my information can eventually be on this page. Any help will be appreciated.Djjackal0509 21:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
• When your blog gets a very substantial amount of regular visitors, no matter who the blog writer is, and Nalty takes part in a major play of the blog, then you can enter it onto this article.CoolKid1993 00:48, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
• Can we get past the part where you insist we believe that Kevin Nalty is one of your employees? Dude, you basically set up a link to his blog. No paycheck. No W2's. No health insurance. It is a link. You deliver newspapers now, but you have potential, a lot of it, and you too could be big one day. Don't muck it up with this juvenile reactionary stuff. Remember, EVERYTHING you post on the internet is there forever and ever and ever. Even if you delete it, it is still there. Forever. This lie you are telling is going to haunt you one day, but if you quit, as in NOW, you can cite youthful indiscretion. Maybe. Let's get back to making this a top notch article! Ajani57 07:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Nalts here. Ages ago I agreed to write for this blog, but haven't had time to read it much less write for it. While I don't mind them mentioning me (given that I did contribute a couple times years ago) I hate to see this create a wikipedia entry for me that's in dispute. Relative to other stuff I've done, I think it's fair to call this "Politics and YouTube in Review" unimportant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.165.207 (talk) 11:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Info and Wikipedia Has RULES

Someone has been deleting entire sections from this page. I thought that went against the spirit of wikipedia. Also, is it normal for wikipedia pages to turn into potty talk?

Instead of resorting to cursing (cartoon or real) why don't you ask the editors what you should do? I'm the one who started the whole Nalts stub, and if you see my video (wiki page of nalts) you'll know it was deleted (the entire Nalts article), a couple of times. But, instead of getting angry, I asked questions and I learned. I studied other articles, I read their FAQ's, and I gained a healthy respect for this phenomenon called wikipedia. There are a LOT of rules, as their should be! Please don't cause the whole Nalts stub to get deleted again. Quit cussing, learn the rules, and then come back to post. thank you so much!!! 72.200.86.197 06:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

• That was my bad......both threads I had deleted were related to contributions I added to the Nalty "Nalts" page and the involvement he had on my blog. There was a new thread about it, so there was really no further use for those threads to still be active. It is kinda hard to get that done when some people think I have tons of notability issues in which my contributions are considered non-essential to the stub. I apologize if my deletions of those two threads related to my stuff offends you, it was just that one was more active than those two, so I decided to delete them.Djjackal0509 01:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• Ichormosquito wrote above, "Except in extreme circumstances, please don't delete material from talk pages. See Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. I'm trying to help you." In the Talk page guidelines, if you read them, you will find a section on deleting your own words. If you are going to delete an entire section, you are supposed to leave a note saying so. Also, you deleted my words, my section. Not cool. Ajani57 01:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

• Once again, I apologize. I guess there would have been better options than deleting the thread when there was more discussion on one than yours and another person's.Djjackal0509 21:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

More Webby info and Thanks

Here is the address for exact page with his Webby nod: http://www.webbyawards.com/webbys/current_honorees.php?media_id=97&category_id=109

Possible sentence for the stub:

Nalts was an Official Honoree in the 11th Annual Webby Awards (2007) for his video Blackberry Crackberry (http://one.revver.com/watch/27670)

Also, on July 11th, nalts posted a thank you to you guys for his page here: http://nalts.wordpress.com/

Ajani57 22:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

SLOGANS are you kdding me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Nalty#Slogans ? is this a bad joke on nalts' part. fails to meet wikification Apelike (talk) 01:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi- Nalts here. This wasn't created by me. -K —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.165.207 (talk) 11:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)