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"Indirect responsibility" is not the same as "perpetrators"

Bearing "indirect responsibility" is not the same as being a "perpetrator" of a massacre. Please use the fields of the infobox for their intended purpose. Jayjg ^(talk) 05:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revenge?

Qarantina, Damour, Tel Az-zataar occurred immediately after each other. (January 18, 1976, January 20, 1976, and August 1976 after a siege that started in June). But Sabra and Shatila? The claims that these were revenge are tenuous, and rely on complicated explanations. This is the reason why the sources I have removed have been either marginal, or extremely pro-Israel. Jd2718 (talk) 23:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have corrected the reference and dropped the Damour claim. I think it is more accurate as it stands, acknowledging the history. It certainly was a "revenge" attack but not for Damour specifically. The history is made a bit clearer in the Bachir Gemayel article, as well as the Kahan report [1]. Hope this is better. Tundrabuggy (talk) 06:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is a much fairer edit. Thank you. Jd2718 (talk) 11:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NYTimes Thomas Friedman is known to be often very critical of Israel and if he ties it as a REVENGE for Damour it sounds very objective. - That 'Shahid' source is clearly a loner POV push. - It is very important, Hobeika's own personal tragedy at Damour to understand his motives. - The 'follow up' boasting by Falangists about the Christian Arab massacre at Sabra is highly important. - The 'mysterious' assassination of Elie Hobeika that no one more than him knew that Israel had no hand in it should be noted as well.

Malindas (talk) 22:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]