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Warning notice

Hi. I noticed you left a No Personal Attacks warning on my talk page. I'm not claiming it's not a personal attack, but I do have a problem, because the complaining editor User:Theserialcomma has been engaged in long term incivility towards me. I posted a few different ANI threads a couple months back, and got no response.

If I were to provide you with a few diffs detailing my unpleasant treatment from TSC, would you read them and if necessary inform him that his behavior is inappropriate? McJeff (talk) 23:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Stifle (talk) 08:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

More salting

Thanks for salting Oxford Martial Arts Academy. Could you please do the same job on Joe Hollywood, Joe hollywood, Joe Newport, and Joe newport. The creator removes delete tags as fast as I apply them! You might care to block some of the socks - but what's the point - they will just create new accounts. - Sgroupace (talk) 05:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Joe hollywood was already salted; I've done the other three. Stifle (talk) 08:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you take translation requests?

Alison has been very busy; as a result, an article of mine that she was going to translate has not materialized on ga apart from a little stub. I was wondering if you would like to translate Doireann Ní Bhriain to ga. Please let me know! Mike H. Fierce! 06:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not in the habit of doing so, but I'll take a look at this later on. Stifle (talk) 08:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Later on has apparently become "now", but my Irish isn't as active as I'd like so it's going slowly. Stifle (talk) 08:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

This seems like a slightly good idea. I've opened a translation queue in case there are any other articles to do. Stifle (talk) 10:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

This is now

Done. Stifle (talk) 15:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I have some Irish ancestry, but I'm ashamed to say I don't know any Irish, outside of the name of that famous feminist protestor: Erin Go Bragh-less. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 15:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Erin Go Bragh-less. :P That deserves a rimshot. :D Thank you for translating so quickly, Stifle! Mike H. Fierce! 06:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

3RR deliberation

Surely the point of the 3RR is to avoid edit wars; so if an editor is reverting the same edit on a daily basis, on consecutive days, it is in violation of the spirit of 3RR, and an example of gaming the system? Cripipper (talk) 12:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that applies here. On the other hand I'm willing to protect the page for a week or two if you want to ensure that the discussion is brought to talk. Stifle (talk) 12:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

YellowMonkey reverts my cited and referenced edits every day on four successive days, and refuses to engage in a discussion on the talk pages. The least I would expect is to have some support from admins on this, but instead I get branded vexatious or frivolous. No cabal, huh? Cripipper (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, you asked for a 3RR block but he hasn't broken the 3RR. He contributed to the talk page discussion somewhat, and he is an arbitrator; they have a lot on their plates. I've protected the page for a week; that should help. Stifle (talk) 12:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh

Yeah, I figured; I saw one of those a while ago. Anyway, if the problem becomes chronic, just tell me and I could extend the protection indefinitely. Keep up the good work! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 12:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Or I'll do it myself ;) Stifle (talk) 15:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

EXCUSE ME.

Excuse me, but you delete DJ Warrior? Properly referenced, 100% official, met all notability, was thoroughly discussed, and you delete my hard work? WHY, when there is many many wikipedia entries that have NO references, and I can't find a SINGLE thing/article/info about them on google. GO delete those, adhering to wikipedias policies. DO ONE GOOGLE ON DJ WARRIOR, and you can see why this man is a legendary worldwide DJ, and I included all the official sources. I am absolutely FURIOUS, Put this back up, right now, as this does not make ANY sense, WHATSOEVER. THANK YOU. --Journaldiction (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)--Journaldiction (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)--Journaldiction (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

discussion for DJ Warrior

   * COMMENT Wow, are weeks ever short in your part of the world. I have just been advised that the article has been "properly referenced" ... any comments prior to this, eenhh. BMW(drive) 21:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
         o REPLY I feel like I'm in the movie Se7en except all I see are blogs instead of dead people. JBsupreme (talk) 21:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
         o COMMENT It looks like it may meet notability under No. 5 here. "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture." --Woland (talk) 23:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

       Comment I've rewritten part of the article; I also moved it to match his real name. ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez Get to know me! / Talk to me!←at≈:→ 10:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

   The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

YOU LEAVE ABSOLUTELY NO REASON THAT YOU DELETED IT, ONLY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY TAGGED FOR DELETION, BUT I REFERENCED, IT WAS RE-WRITTEN, IT WAS OFFICIAL, DIDN'T YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE PAGE BEFORE YOU DELETED IT? JUST BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER DELETION? IT TOLD ME NOT TO REMOVE THE TAG, AND I DIDN'T, SO I AM ADHERING TO WIKIPEDIAS POLICIES, BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND DELETE THE ENTRY WITHOUT EVEN NOTICING THAT IT IS OFFICIAL. PLEASE, PUT THIS BACK UP. RIGHT NOW, OR GO DELETE EVERY OTHER DJ, AND EVERY OTHER PAGE AND ENTRY ON WIKIPEDIA THAT CONTAINS DJ WARRIORS NAME, WHICH IS 100'S.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

--Journaldiction (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Stifle, FYI, I have restored the article into his user space at User:Journaldiction/DJ Warrior. See also my comments at User talk:Journaldiction where I suggest the option of deletion review. —C.Fred (talk) 21:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Replied at User talk:Journaldiction. Stifle (talk) 08:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Unresolved AfD?

Hi, quick note. You closed this Afd which had a bundled article. I I saw the bundled article wasn't deleted. Was this oversight or was there a reason for it that I missed? Thanks! TravellingCari 01:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

No, just missed it. Gone now. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 08:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, have a good day TravellingCari 12:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Impact Pro Wrestling

Hey mate. Listen I had a page called Impact Pro Wrestling tagged (And recently deleted) This pages was created to the specifiactions under orders from Impact Pro Wrestling. However I've been cited about three times for copyright infringements. I've been given clearence by my bosses at Impact Pro Wrestling to use all infomation given. However it has been seen that you have deleted the page. The page that was deleted by you was credited infomation, however it takes me hours on end to get the stuff compiled and posted only for it to be deleted.

Talk to me about it and we can sort something out.

Cheers IPWwikiMod (talk) 03:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

While I'm happy to answer questions, it looks like your question could have been answered and resolved more quickly if you had used my message wizard. It's linked as "Talk" after my name and at the top of my talk page. Why not try it next time?

Wikipedia requires that text is reusable under the terms of the Free Documentation Licence. If your organization is happy to release its text under that licence (which allows unlimited commercial reproduction, reuse, and adapting, but requires that the author be credited), then please have someone with an email address ending in @ipwaustralia.com.au send an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org stating "The text which was included in the article http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Impact_Pro_Wrestling is released under version 1.2 of the GNU Free Documentation Licence, with no Front-Cover Text, no Back-Cover Text, and no Invariant Sections. The copyright holder is (name of copyright holder)." The email team will then undelete the page and place a confirmation tag on it to show that the permission is valid. Stifle (talk) 08:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, don't forget single purpose accounts that are related to the topic and WP:COI ... "IPWwikiMod"?? Wow, "Impact Pro Wrestling wikipedia Moderator" ... not very, um ... "subtle" BMW(drive) 13:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll thank you for refraining from being a WP:TPS (-: I'm assuming good faith and have left the user a WP:COI warning. Stifle (talk) 13:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Deleted page

I wish to challenge the deletion of a page that you deleted.

The page title is Ser-Rek.
I have read the reason for deleting the page and I feel it was incorrect because INSERT REASON HERE.
The following sources back up my claim:
1. SOURCE 1 The information in the page can be varified by a book written and published by Roger Gastman and Ian Sattler named Freight Train Graffit.

¨¨¨¨ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.99.255.42 (talk) 09:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Please provide the reason why you think the deletion was incorrect. Specifically, what makes Ser-Rek notable? Stifle (talk) 10:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

11 day old message? Seriously?

You dropped by to leave me a note about an 11 day old message? I know we had a minor run-in over what I and others considered to be a slightly over-the-top use of power a number of months ago, but really ... an 11 day old message? You know that I understand AfD's, and the "sarcasm" was not uncivil in any manner. Let it go, it's been discussed elsewhere so please, move along. BMW(drive) 10:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

DJ Warrior..

I was in a fight with a user at the time, and I wasn't understanding the policies of how to reference and included external links that were not being excepted, and I was being told that I was violating a copyright somehow, which was untrue, but not knowing what to do I made a false comment stating that I am a partner so it is not a copyright issue. I am just a normal user, die-hard fan trying to give a legend that graced the entire hip hop industry his own place on Wikipedia.. Is that too much to ask for? Thanks,

--Journaldiction (talk) 14:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

The responses to your previous messages don't change — deletion review is third door on the right. Stifle (talk) 14:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

What do responses have to do with anything? the page has been put back up to generate proper discussion and so far it is all keep votes because this is 100% official, don't be a straight up asshole Stifle, just take 2 seconds to review the credibility, not consensus, that would show your level of professionalism and experience on this site. Don't abuse that power, it would be unethical in the original vision of Wikipedia set out by Jimmy Wales.

Thanks.

--Journaldiction (talk) 14:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I am not replying to you any further until you are willing to interact civilly. Stifle (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I apologize if you took that as a personal attack, that is not my intention at all. I believe that this situation on this article should be reviewed properly, and professionally, and not consensus over credibility as we updated the article to meet Wikipedias policies of notability. I am begging you to return my entry to the main space, as it is notable and widely referenced. What is the big deal?

Thanks,

--Journaldiction (talk) 14:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I notice that you referred to an article as belonging to you. Please be aware that nobody owns any articles on Wikipedia.

Because the deletion was taken at a community deletion discussion, requests to restore the article must go to Wikipedia:Deletion review. Stifle (talk) 14:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Star Wars marathon

I've added that page you requested to the spam whitelist. Let me know if it doesn't work. Stifle (talk) 14:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for that, Sir. It's much appreciated. -- JediLofty ^{Talk to me}_{Follow me} 15:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review

What's yr point?
--Jerzy•t 16:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

It would have been nice of you to ask King of Hearts to reconsider his closure before opening a DRV. Stifle (talk) 18:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Reconsidering WTFPL 2nd AfD

Would you please reconsider the 2nd AfD nomination of WTFPL? I have been discussing this article with its editors, and I believe they have not satisfactorily met the notability criteria. In fact, they believe the nobility criteria does not apply in this case, because "common sense" suggests the article is notable. I would like to nominate the article for deletion again because I believe the most recent AfD discussion was not conducted in good faith: the keep arguments relied primarily on WP:GOOGLEHITS, WP:PERNOM, and WP:VAGUEWAVE. Most importantly, the editors have failed to produce a single reliable secondary source to establish notability since the first time this article was nominated for deletion over 20 months ago. Thank you. --Beefyt (talk) 18:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

While I'm happy to answer questions, it looks like your question could have been answered and resolved more quickly if you had used my message wizard. It's linked as "Talk" after my name and at the top of my talk page. Why not try it next time?

No matter how I read the debate there's no way I can justify a deletion closure for this one. There's no consensus to delete. You're welcome to DRV it ot renominate. Stifle (talk) 18:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Sorry about that. I did consult your wizard but I didn't think of my question in terms of dispute resolution, so I didn't know about your unwillingness to assist. --Beefyt (talk) 18:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: Report

Hello - this is regarding the "casual" editing of a naming policy - whithout any agreement, discussion or any prior mention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism User:Pmanderson (→User-reported: rm Pmanderson, not vandalism, discuss the matter on the talk page) about change: [1]

Please revert this unauthorized change. And if the user still insists on making changes - he must address the issue first.

Interestingly - this happened when the SAME user was having a discussion here Talk:Kiev/naming So I guess just discussing wasn't enough and made a decision to just change the policy.

Is this acceptable here? Vvolodymyr (talk) 21:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

While I'm happy to answer questions, it looks like your question could have been answered and resolved more quickly if you had used my message wizard. It's linked as "Talk" after my name and at the top of my talk page. Why not try it next time?

I didn't say that the user's actions were OK, just that they were not blockable vandalism. Please revert yourself and/or discuss the issue on the talk page. If necessary, get a third opinion or use dispute resolution. Stifle (talk) 21:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

OK - sorry about the messenger. Thanks - but the change was done to a protected page - so he must be some sort of administrator. But the change he made was not under discussion. and it was an established policy. Before anything it should be reverted - but I have no power to do it. Then - he can start a discussion etc. It's only fair and reasonable.

Again - how do I report this misuse of power - when an administrator having a discussion - simply changes the policy which tips the topic to his opinion.... You know what I mean. How can I talk and discuss with such person - following all the conventions and rules etc. - while he just wings it anyhow he likes. That just makes him do whatever.

So how do I ask/report/anything for some sort of intervention? Vvolodymyr (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions is move-protected, which means that it can't be moved (renamed) except by an administrator, but it's still open to edit by anyone. You are therefore free to revert it and you are free in either case to open a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions.

Pmanderson isn't an administrator. If you feel that he has misbehaved you can make a listing at WP:ANI. (But he hasn't, just so you know.)

I am just about to go offline so there is no point in replying further to me, unless you don't mind waiting 11 hours for your reply. Stifle (talk) 21:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Thanks. But it still prevents me from reverting. But how can we just all change rules like that? this is wrong. Vvolodymyr (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

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 :::Pmanderson isn't an administrator. If you feel that he has misbehaved you can make a listing at [[WP:ANI]]. (But he hasn't, just so you know.)
 :::I am just about to go offline so there is no point in replying further to me, unless you don't mind waiting 11 hours for your reply. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle/wizard|talk]]) 21:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::Wow. Thanks. But it still prevents me from reverting. But how can we just all change rules like that? this is wrong. [[User:Vvolodymyr|Vvolodymyr]] ([[User talk:Vvolodymyr|talk]]) 21:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)