Talk:Quantum of Solace

This article uses British English dialect and spelling. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Explanation of text

Just wondering if someone can explain the line below that comes from the second paragraph of this article:

"yet Forster rejected a grotesque appearance for Greene to comment on the hidden nature of the film's corporate villains."

As it stands currently it makes no sense to me. Maybe it's worth revising? Atouraya (talk) 05:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it was difficult to summarise how Forster aimed to make the film classic and modern, and Greene's lack of a visible deformity like most Bond villains has been discussed a lot as to how many hidden villains there are in our society. Alientraveller (talk) 08:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Theatrical poster

Just a thought when browsing the article. Clearly the Bond franchise has strong national ties to Britain, and the fact that the article's written in British English rightly reflects that. However, has the UK theatrical poster not been made known yet? ENGVAR arguably extends to images with regional variations between box art, posters and book covers, so it seems odd to have the US poster instead of the UK one. -- Sabre (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree, wasn't the original of craig in the desert with the machine gun (like this one) the UK one? Highfields (talk, contribs, review) 15:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

But this is the final poster. If you see a version of that one with the British date, you know what to do. Alientraveller (talk) 15:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The one I linked to has got the British date, but do I add it or not? Highfields (talk, contribs, review) 15:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

No, it's an old poster. For example, I uploaded a Transformers poster (with the main cast on it) with the British date for quite a while, until I found a generic version without any. Alientraveller (talk) 16:06, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The international poster has been released; it's basically the same as the red-sky one, but it has a blue sky instead. 129.180.1.224 (talk) 07:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Citation for use

• Daily Mail supplement

A goldmine of information and photos from the Bond on Set series author Greg Williams, but I'm not using it just yet: one click and the newspaper whacks a major spoiler at you and me. So it'll be here to access for others to use (hopefully it'll be still up after 31 October for my own reading pleasure), but enter at your own peril. Alientraveller (talk) 11:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Release dates

The article does not cover extensive release dates, and it does not have option to add the same. The movie is going to release in India before US, i.e. on November 7, 2008.[1] (tushartarun (talk) 17:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC))

WP:MOSFILM recommends we stick to general English-language release dates. If you live in India, you should really be reading another language version of Wikipedia. Alientraveller (talk) 18:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Alientraveller, i've just come across this and it is possibly one of the daftest statements (as well as being quite insulting) i've yet seen on wikipedia. since when did country of origin preclude speaking english? and perhaps you'd care to look under official languages of India. enjoy! 129.11.76.229 (talk) 08:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if you feel it's insulting. However, ask yourself, is India an English-speaking country? No, it has many official languages. Sorry if our guideline is also "daft", but perhaps we're trying to not to be indiscriminate too. Alientraveller (talk) 09:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Gunbarrel

It comes at the end of the film and not at the start folks. It's already annoyed a lot of Bond fans —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fitzochris (talk • contribs) 14:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Do we have a reliable source that reports this in the mainstream media? A lot of fan reactions tend to be very localized, and it's easy to assume that that kind of reaction can be widespread. A group of people can say anything about any topic on any forum, so that's why we need to have independent reporting of that kind of reaction. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Other than the fact I've seen it with my own eyes at a media screening, I haven't seen it reported anywhere else. Wait and see on October 31. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.157.173.117 (talk) 11:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I think saying it has annoyed a lot of Bond fans is a gross overstatement. I post at both the MI6 forums and CommanderBond.net, and while it has caused some irritation, most of the people saying it are yet to see the film for themselves. The few who have say that it's actually a very effective way of rounding out the Vesper Lynd storyline. Renegade Raconteur (talk) 01:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Agent Fields

Please note that Agent Fields' first name is intended as a joke in the Flemingian tradition; the writers deliberately left her first name out until the end credits. I've adjusted it as such, because it's a spoiler. Renegade Raconteur (talk) 01:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Wiki is not censored; nor is it spoiler-free. Thanks. --Madchester (talk) 02:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Then stick a spoiler warning in! Renegade Raconteur (talk) 10:12, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

No spoiler warnings either. See WP:NDA - X201 (talk) 10:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

So since I know most of what happens within the plot, I'll just go ahead and post all of that, shall I? Never mind that most of the world hasn't seen it yet, Wikipedia doesn't have a spoiler warning. Would you like to know how Dominic Greene dies? Because I won't hesitate to tell you, and I'll be protected by all the policies you just listed. Of course, you might have a problem with that ... Renegade Raconteur (talk) 13:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

You can add the plot to the article page, and, for the benefit of the article, I would urge you to do so. You'll be protected by the policies mentioned when adding information to the article page, adding plot details to this page in some sort of petty act obviously wouldn't reflect well upon you. - X201 (talk) 14:06, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd never dream of it. Actually, the reason why I'd reveal it here is because I don't know how it was worked into the film as I have't seen it yet. Some moron working for AOL spoiled most of it in he first line of his report from the Chilean press conference because everyone else was using the same stuff to open with an he apparently wanted something different. Anyway, this is how it happens. If you don't want to know, avert your eyes ... Bond doesn't physically kill Greene. He takes him out into the desert and abandons him in the middle of nowhere (I assume this is what the opening shot of the second trailer is), made all the more difficult by Greene being injured. Bond also leaves a can of motor oil with him, telling Greene that he's willing to bet Greene will only make it twenty miles before Greene gets so thirsty that he drinks the motor oil. M apparently mentions later in the film that Greene's body was found in the desert with a belly full of oil and a bullet where his brains should be. There's nothing to indicate who exactly did the dirty deed, but that's a question for another film.

Also, the intro probably needs tidying up a bit. It recounts the plot, but there's a huge gap in the middle: it skips from Austria (or thereabouts) to the epilogue; I'd say someone actually intended to spoil the film. Renegade Raconteur (talk) 12:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Reception

"Fans and Critics were shocked ... worst Bond film ever." This passage seems POV and needs a citation at the very least, given that the reception part of the article gives it generally positive reviews. 93.97.113.147 (talk) 00:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)