Talk:Vesna Vulović

Discrepancy in the location of her body

In the linked interview, she says she was in the middle of the plane and not the tail as reported.

PB: The reports say that you fell in a part of the fuselage that remained intact. Some of the reports said that you were in the back of the air craft

VV: No I was not in the back. The man who found me he told me that I was in the middle part of the plane. I was found with my head down and my colleague on top of me. One part of my body with my leg was in the plane and my head was out of the plane. A catering trolley was pinned against my spine and kept me in the plane. The man who found me, says I was very lucky. He was with Hitler's troops as a medic during the War. He was German. He knew how to treat me at the site of the accident.

Vulovic's statement.

Discrepancy in the cause of the explosion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAT_Flight_364 says the explosion was caused by a surface-to-air missile and not by a terrorist bomb.

Has anyone read the actual "news" report for the "Veracity of the official report" section? It is very poorly written at best, and provides no reference to the statistics claimed in this section. Unless I (or someone else) can find a better reference, I will rewrite.Tubbyty (talk) 18:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Fall time duration

How long does it take someone to fall 10,000+ metres? Lugnuts (talk) 07:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Circa 3 minutes.--Fidelxxx (talk) 00:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

The plane crashed after the detonation of a bomb in the forward cargo hold.

according to planecrashinfo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.130.201 (talk) 05:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Recent changes

The recent changes I made are following the official report of the Civil Czechoslovak investigation commission which was handed over to ICAO in Montreal in an English version in May 1974. Other sources are the Belgrade newspaper "Politika" of 27 and 18 January 1972. 88.100.237.83 (talk) 08:16, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Discrepancies in the text that confuse me

If Croatian organization Ustase wasn't responsible for the fall of the plane, how come somebody phoned authorities when the plane was already in the air and claimed that Croats planted the bomb? If they weren't, does that mean that the Checz government was lying when they presented remains of the clock of the bomb? And how come somebody called to warn if Checz airforce shot the plane by accident? Too much of a coincidence, practically impossible imo. Can a plane acctually be shot on that height? And what with do you have to shoot it if it were possible? A nuclear super intelligent bomb maybe? I think this article offends common sense and human logic. It should be rewritten with better sources and references (preferably to some official police report!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigelm (talk • contribs) 06:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

The phone call was made after the accident. And yes, a plane can be shot at that height. Czechoslovak Army had planes that could shoot other planes ;) You dont need super intelligent nuclear bomb to do that.--Jakas1 (talk) 08:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Forged story?

German media carried the news today that the bomb explosion was revealed to be a cover story produced by Yugoslavia's secret service. According to tagesschau.de, available information suggests that an unknown incident occurred aboard that caused the pilots to rapidly decrease altitude and changing course, a standard procedure to avoid collisions. It is suggested that the plane, crossing into sensitive military territory, was likely shot down by the Czechoslowakian air force. Witnesses report seeing the airplane whole below the low clouds (i.e. it was still whole when it came below ~ 1 km), and an expert who saw the debris field says the size of the debris field suggests it broke up no higher than 2000-3000 feet. Whatever the exact events were, it was said the plane cannot possibly have been broken up at 10,000 meters, and that the Czechoslowakain and Yugoslawian secret services collaborated to cover something up. Ms. Vulovic herself reportedly has no memories of the event, having said the last thing she remembers was boarding the plane on that day. 87.164.188.41 (talk) 16:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Sarajevo article seems to back up that story as well http://www.sarajevo-x.com/clanak/090109136 Custovic (talk) 08:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

You also have an article in the Guardian regarding the Czechoslovakian airforce shooting the plane down. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/13/flight-attendant-record-fall-hoax 88.6.253.46 (talk) 10:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)