User:CalendarWatcher/Talk Archive 4

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March 14

Please stop deleting the holiday on March 14th Calendarwatcher. Just because you are not familiar with a topic does not make it vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prismaticvision (talk • contribs) 15:46, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Dealings with XSG - Santa Cruz County article

I noticed that last year, you seem to have had some interaction with XSG, regarding possible violations of Three Revert Rule. Were you able to reach a common ground with this user? Currently, I am also involved in a new dispute regarding inclusions to the Santa Cruz County article, where he seems to be taking the same WP:OWN approach to convey his preferences. I'd like to work with this user toward the common good of the article, as well as the greater scope of ALL CA county articles. Any suggestions? Edit Centric (talk) 05:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL!! Well, I'm not sure you want to take the "Californian holiday", things in this state seem to be getting more expensive as the weeks go by, what with the current economic woes, the budget crisis, etceteras. But if you do, I highly recommend the Bay Area, nice views, clean air (on the bay, that is!) and lots to do. :-D

As for the article and XSG, I'll try to work with him toward a common goal. Thanks for getting back to me so promptly, and best wiki wishes! Edit Centric (talk) 06:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

January 14

You haven't responded to the thread on my talk page, and you are still edit warring at that article. I have to figure this is a misunderstanding that has gotten way out of hand, so I'm trying to be patient. Here's where I'm coming from:

• The edits the user has been making are not vandalism. You have (very belatedly) conceded as much.
• The user in question has made some rude remarks, but not before you started reverting him out of hand. When biting newbies, one can't be too upset when they respond with sarcasm and incivility. They don't know any better.
• The various IPs have been blocked in the past - but those blocks were incorrect. They continue to be issued now, also incorrectly. Sometimes admins don't look at the whole situation and are especially quick to block anons, and I've certainly been guilty of that myself. But one inappropriate block does not forever damn the user's future contributions.
• The addition is verifiable with reliable sources and links to the related article. You don't get to unilaterally decide the inclusion criteria for these articles. If you don't like it, you need to seek dispute resolution. Look at it from his point of view: he tried to add something that is clearly notable, having received wide coverage in every major news source in the world, and has received nothing but snide remarks and blocks for his efforts.
• This is a content dispute, and it has become a slow edit war. I'm not willing to let the article be vandalized, but I'm not willing to let you bully someone into submission just because he doesn't have an account.
• The compromise version (which was reached after a long discussion with Mufka) was an attempt to stop the edit war after he filed a report at AIV. If you are willing to leave the compromise version in for now, while you seek dispute resolution, I am willing to semi-protect the article to help end the problems with the IPs.
• If you revert again without seeking dispute resolution, I will block you. You're a good editor, and I really don't want your first block to come from me over something so trivial.

All I'm asking is that you consider treating this user with a shred of respect, stop reverting his contribution, and try to get a fresh start by talking instead of warning. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 18:16, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

• Well, after a quick conversation (as I said, a little respect goes a long way) the IP user told me he's satisfied that he has received a fair shake. So I went ahead and indefinitely s-protected the article on your version, and hopefully that will stop the edit warring there. I'm also willing to help with future sock blocks and other page protection as needed; just drop me a line. I do hope you'll keep this in mind in the future, though, and not be so quick to dismiss edits as vandalism just because they don't meet the standards of one of our wikiprojects. A few lines of firm but polite discussion might avoid another situation like this. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 03:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

As I said I would...

I don't know if you know yet (maybe?) but I was convicted of sock puppetry and found guilty after I admitted it about this whole January 14/15/17 edit war. I'm actually here to both thank-you and apologize for you putting up with this. I was unblocked after a lengthy discussion and I will no longer be vandalizing any pages.. but contributing good edits to the Wikipedia and I invite you to monitor my contributions.

Sorry and Thankyou! --SamB135 (talk) 05:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW ELSE TO SEND YOU A MESSAGE, SO HERE GOES:

Hi - I’m User:CCFSDCA (Christopher Corbett-Fiacco) and I understand the concerns expressed by many of you regarding the articles I’ve posted at Wikipedia the past week or so. I am in fact the author of The Whole World Calendar Book of Holidays Around the World, as stated (an as-yet unpublished book which is based upon the self-published The Whole World Calendar 2008 [and 2009; email me at wholeworldcalendar@gmail.com and I’ll be glad to send you a sample page and info on ordering, if interested]). I have sent Wikipedia its permissions grant for using copyrighted material as requested and assure you that I am not self-promoting. My mistake is in not yet spending the time to figure out exactly how to cite the book as the reference for the article, which I’ll do as soon as I have the time. My intent in adding the articles is that they are actual national/religious/cultural holidays and festivals, are therefore ‘newsworthy’ if not particularly important, and, having spent two years researching the topic, I can assure you that it is quite difficult at times to find such information -- try to find out what Earthquake Victims Memorial Day is in Armenia and you’ll see what I mean. It is my intent to self-publish the book within 6 months if I cannot find a publisher. Meanwhile, feel free to delete my articles as desired. I’ll revisit the subject at a later date and repost them only after I’ve ascertained that I am, in fact, doing it right. Meanwhile, I’m not copying from somebody else -- those articles are my own -- that’s the way I write. Thanks much. CCFSDCA (talk) 20:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)Chris Corbett-Fiacco