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*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts|list of Visual arts-related deletions]]. – [[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 18:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)</small> |
*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts|list of Visual arts-related deletions]]. – [[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 18:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Weak Delete''' Whilst the article has a large number of references, if one excludes self-published sources, simple directories or exhibition catalogues (which do not establish notability), the references that remain would appear to amount to a number of articles in a single Sunday newspaper. [[WP:RS]] is slightly coy about the status of newspapers as regards notability, merely remarking that the "quality" press is of more weight in establishing notability. In my view, it carries considerable weight ''where'' in the newspaper the article is carried. Articles about the subject in the main newspaper, as news articles carry some weight. Articles in the arts supplement that are essentially coffee-table and waiting-room fodder carry very little weight. As such, I can't accept that this series of articles establishes any sort of notability. [[User:Mayalld|Mayalld]] ([[User talk:Mayalld|talk]]) 19:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Weak Delete''' Whilst the article has a large number of references, if one excludes self-published sources, simple directories or exhibition catalogues (which do not establish notability), the references that remain would appear to amount to a number of articles in a single Sunday newspaper. [[WP:RS]] is slightly coy about the status of newspapers as regards notability, merely remarking that the "quality" press is of more weight in establishing notability. In my view, it carries considerable weight ''where'' in the newspaper the article is carried. Articles about the subject in the main newspaper, as news articles carry some weight. Articles in the arts supplement that are essentially coffee-table and waiting-room fodder carry very little weight. As such, I can't accept that this series of articles establishes any sort of notability. [[User:Mayalld|Mayalld]] ([[User talk:Mayalld|talk]]) 19:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''<s>Weak</s> Strong Keep''' as article does have sourcing and looks like it will be greatly improved by some decent copyedit. The assertion of being a first Sri Lankan to acomplish a notable act needs clarification. Per [[WP:CSB]], I'd recommend cleanup, nor deletion. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<b><sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup></b>]]'' 20:58, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
*'''<s>Weak</s> Strong Keep''' as article does have sourcing and looks like it <s>will be</s> has greatly improved by some decent copyedit. The assertion of being a first Sri Lankan to acomplish a notable act <s>needs</s> has recieved clarification. Per [[WP:CSB]], I'd recommend cleanup, nor deletion. '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<b><sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup></b>]]'' 20:58, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*:My hat is off to [[User:NYScholar]] who went at the article with a single-minded determination to make it shine. I was going to pout a bit as I had not weighed in on |
*:My hat is off to [[User:NYScholar]] who went at the article with a single-minded determination to make it shine. I was going to pout a bit as I had not weighed in on improving the article itself... but I know the work of a Master when I see it. It is rare to see someone nomoinate an article for deletion and then himself turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Well done, and kudos! '''[[User:MichaelQSchmidt|<font color="blue">Schmidt,</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|<b><sup><small>MICHAEL Q.</small></sup></b>]]'' 04:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*<s>'''Delete''' Insufficient notability to meet inclusion guidelines. </s>[[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 21:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
*<s>'''Delete''' Insufficient notability to meet inclusion guidelines. </s>[[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 21:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::'''Keep''' You ahve to dig a bit for the good refs, and the student thing threw me a bit. But there is substantial coverage and recognition to warrant an article. [[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 00:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC) |
::'''Keep''' You ahve to dig a bit for the good refs, and the student thing threw me a bit. But there is substantial coverage and recognition to warrant an article. [[User:ChildofMidnight|ChildofMidnight]] ([[User talk:ChildofMidnight|talk]]) 00:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC) |
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The subject still lacks sufficient notability according to general notability guideline and has been nominated for the same reason before, when the result was deletion. See Talk:Malaka Dewapriya (more than one section) for current discussion and link to previous discussion: Articles for deletion: Malaka Dewapriya. --NYScholar (talk) 14:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – David Eppstein (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Weak Delete Whilst the article has a large number of references, if one excludes self-published sources, simple directories or exhibition catalogues (which do not establish notability), the references that remain would appear to amount to a number of articles in a single Sunday newspaper. WP:RS is slightly coy about the status of newspapers as regards notability, merely remarking that the "quality" press is of more weight in establishing notability. In my view, it carries considerable weight where in the newspaper the article is carried. Articles about the subject in the main newspaper, as news articles carry some weight. Articles in the arts supplement that are essentially coffee-table and waiting-room fodder carry very little weight. As such, I can't accept that this series of articles establishes any sort of notability. Mayalld (talk) 19:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
WeakStrong Keep as article does have sourcing and looks like itwill behas greatly improved by some decent copyedit. The assertion of being a first Sri Lankan to acomplish a notable actneedshas recieved clarification. Per WP:CSB, I'd recommend cleanup, nor deletion. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:58, 10 February 2009 (UTC)- My hat is off to User:NYScholar who went at the article with a single-minded determination to make it shine. I was going to pout a bit as I had not weighed in on improving the article itself... but I know the work of a Master when I see it. It is rare to see someone nomoinate an article for deletion and then himself turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Well done, and kudos! Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Delete Insufficient notability to meet inclusion guidelines.ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Keep You ahve to dig a bit for the good refs, and the student thing threw me a bit. But there is substantial coverage and recognition to warrant an article. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Keep he has two articles written about him in The Sunday Times (it's [unsourced] Wikipedia page reports it as the second larges English Language newspaper in the country, after one owned by the state), seems to establish notability to me.--kelapstick (talk) 00:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Keep Per WP:CSB, as cited by Mr. Schmidt. Pastor Theo (talk) 01:37, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Related comments
Please see subsequent discussion in Talk:Malaka Dewapriya#Continued discussion: several comments above do not take into account when Susitha R. Fernando (Sachie Fernando) wrote her news articles based on interviews with the subject in Sunday Times. It was when he was still an undergraduate and graduate student.
- I suggest that one read the sources and not just count the number of them and also that one notice the relative chronological dates of publication. Thanks.
- I also suggest that editors not involved in the subject of Sri Lanka, Sri Lankan film, and other Sri Lankan topics be the ones who evaluate the notability of this subject, from a neutral not involved point of view. As one not previously involved in any Sri Lanka topics, I see myself as a more neutral observer than those who have had previous involvements with Sri Lankan subject editing in Wikipedia or those previously involved in the earlier deletion of the article from Wikipedia (see that linked discussion above).
- Not enough more recently-published reliable third-party notable sources have been added to this article in the past year to alter the previous decision to delete it. --NYScholar (talk) 02:29, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- I have been working over the past few days to try to correct this problem. Whether I and others have supplied by now enough reliable third-party published and verifiable sources to enable others to decide to "keep" the article is currently being discussed. The article is currently being worked on further by at least two editors. --NYScholar (talk) 03:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think that I may have supplied enough more recent sources and developed the EL sec. further enough to make the subject seem more currently notable (not just student work but more recent work (2007 and 2008). --NYScholar (talk) 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
This Structure
This New article structure is who created By NYScholar.it is appearing Dewapriya’s most of self publications. I believe there are of Other Primary sources in Sri Lanka Language and Other International web sites. There is no other Sri Lankan text in English or on the internet. That is why You can find out lots of Susitha fernando's and Sunday Times articles . This situation is Relate To my other articles which I Edit.[ Nira wickramasinghe]][ J.B Disanayake]],Shelton PayagalaDhamma Jagoda There is author for everything .Nothing outside of author and text.( I am thinking about this neutral Pont of view)