Talk:Alfred Pennyworth

Death

Of course. How utterly proper. Who: Alfred Pennyworth Source: Batman: The Dark Knight Returns The character has burned down Wayne Manor, his home and place of employment. Character immediately suffers a fatal stroke.

From "Wikiquote", an expanded, detailed version shall be included.

I don't see a page for Alfred on wikiquote, but if someone makes one, we can link to that. :) -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 13:47, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

3rd party should review edit

22:37, 18 April 2006 Ipstenu Third party should evaluate this as a bad faith removal. One of the two deleted links is not "Catwoman fan stuff" as was stated but an Alfred-Centric story similar to the previous one which had remained for months. This would have been apparent if deleting user had bothered to read the first chapter or even first paragraphs. Suspect this is vindictive removal related to dispute brewing in Catwoman article, hence that designation.

The above comment was made by CatExp on 2006-04-19 12:17:29

Wasn't bad faith, was a bad read, but I still think it should go. As I mentioned in email to you (assuming the email was you), the External Link Policy, under Occasionally acceptable links is listed Fan Links. If, when I went to the link, it said 'Alfred Pennyworth Fan Fic' I might have thought 'Ahah, this is about Alfred. Instead, my browser reads 'Catwoman Fan Fiction' and ... well, Alfred != Catwoman. Ergo, the site is about catwoman, with an Alfred section. Or, as I re-read it, one Alfred story. Frankly, I don't have an opinon on fanfic, one way or the other. I removed both becuase I looked at Catwoman and remembered that the Diamond Exchange fan link had been previously removed (and added back and removed again), and agreed that a single fan work really wasn't notable enough to remain on the site. (PS, you can sign your talk edits with -- ~~~~ :) ) -- Ipstenu 20:36, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Alfred the detective

22:37, 11 July 2006 MMM Commentaries Is there anything in Alfred's history about his amateur detective status? It is hinted in the text that his detective skills are nearly as good as Bruce's, but no real instances of his sluething. Can this be expanded at all?

Dry British Humor

Alfred is synonymous to it, yet (as far as i can see) there's not one mention of it in the entire article--TommyStardust 19:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Alfred the actor

What? No mention of Alfred's backgground as a theatre actor prior to being employed by the Waynes? I know it was referenced in a Batman annual and also in the Nightwing special, Alfred's Return. He's used those skills to impersonate Bruce and some other people in order to provide an alibi for Bruce Wayne. --Destron Commander 10:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Born again?

I'm no Bats expert, but I've read (Daniels, DC Comics) Alfred was created for the serial. Also, when did Bob Kane become Bats' writer? Trekphiler 08:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Legends of the Dark Knight #117

The paragraph titled Post-Crisis says:

His resourcefulness came to the fore in the No Man's Land storyline, especially in Legends of the Dark Knight #117.

Hmm. In the Legends of the Dark Knight #117 that I read, Alfred does not appear at all. The story is titled Bread and Circuses: Part One. It does, however, take place within the No Man's Land storyline. Someone please look into this matter. Thank You.

Yours, Savio mit electronics 05:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, solved this case. It was Legends of the Dark Knight No. 118. One fan of comic books has a livejournal entry about this particular issue, with some scans from the book. You can check it out if you like.

Yours,

Savio mit electronics 05:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Do we really need so many pictures?

Do we really need so many pictures of Alfred in other media? I mean, my goodness, there's 5 of them: Burton/Schumaucher films, Batman Begins, Batman 60s show, Birds of Prey, and The Batman. Not to mention, the way they're in the article makes it look cluttered and junky, and it just doesn't look nice. Can we cut that down to at least 3, and I would really say 2. The Alfred from Birds of Prey we really don't need, as he was a minor character there, and I'd probably say the same thing about the Alfred from the 60s Batman show. Keep Batman Begins for sure, as Alfred is pretty important in that film, and I'd say the one from the Burton/Schumaucher films too. Anakinjmt 03:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

In general I'd agree with nixing the animated image, since for all intents it, and the BTAS/TNBA, are artistic variations of the comic appearance.

And the BoP one is a minor appearance, and visually echos Gough.

However, the other three, Napier, Gough, and Caine, are visually distinct and relatively important. Napier is, arguably, the better known of the three. Gough is the only actor to make it through all 4 of the 90s films. And Caine is the "current" Alfred, though that is the weakest possible argument. - J Greb 11:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright then. I've fixed it and made it look a lot nicer, although can we get a better shot of Caine? The one we have is a profile. Anakinjmt 12:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually I disagree. Personally, I think that all the pictures could be used is he expand the information in the section and created a page titled Alfred Pennyworth in other media much like Batman in other media. Alternatively, we could a a little table with a ll the pictures in it like in the In other media section of the Lois Lane page. --Vinnyvinny2 18:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Alastair Duncan

I think the link for Alfred on "The Batman" played by Alastair Duncan should be changed or removed. It links to a different Alastair Duncan, who while still an actor, died in 2005. The IMDB page that is linked to that Alastair Duncan does not state he did any voicework on "The Batman". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.100.240 (talk) 16:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I changed the link to reflect the proper actor.

Adopting the Robins

I'm familiar with Bruce Wayne adopting Dick Grayson and Tim Drake, but don't recall him adopting Jason Todd. Are you certain that occurred? Great Stone Face (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Alternate histories

In the "Post-Crisis" section, the article refers to "assorted versions" of Alfred's history which have appeared post-Crisis. It would be helpful to readers if the article indicated where these conflicting histories appeared. (I don't know, or I'd add the information myself.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

You Guys Need to Re-read That Batman & the Outsiders Special

Bruce didn't just say "I always thought you were like a father to me" (I just noticed the lettering is all caps, kind of lazy), he also said, "but I was wrong... ...you're not like a father--you are my father, Alfred" (meaning Alfred is Bruce Wayne's biological father. Apparently that's canon now. 76.111.80.228 (talk) 17:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)