Talk:Mad World

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2001 recording

Donnie Darko was released, with the Gary Jules version of Mad World, in 2001. So obviously it can't have been a 2003 recording. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{2}}}|{{{2}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{2}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{2}}}|contribs]]) 21:16, 21 January 2006 69.231.166.204 (UTC)

It was recorded in 2001 but released as a single in 2003, which was the year it became a major hit in the UK.79.69.83.12 13:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

DJ Tiesto

Didn't DJ Tiesto do a remix of Mad World as well? I have the MP3. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.138.80.156 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It may be an MP3 of a remix that was on some CD he assembled or a session mix where he sequed from one song to another without really making a new mix of the song. However, if there is evidence of a significantly different mix, then that would be interesting to note. Hu 04:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Crowded House

hmmmm.... Didn't Crowded House at least do a cover of this song? As for who did the Donnie Darko version i wouldn't know. Most people confuse it with REM. Factoid Killer 23:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Fan-made

I removed "A fan-made video of the song with a Resident Evil theme can be seen here: [1]" because it can be found thousands of this videos and i dont see whats special about this one to be par to the article

Without a Trace

I added a blurb about the Gary Jules version being used in the TV series "Without a Trace" --1:30, 7 November 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.45.164.104 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Gary Jules-version

Is the 2001 version by Gary Jules the same as mentioned one section below, on the KLLF album? If so, one should be removed, if not, the difference should be stated... Both claim the Gears of war-song was derived from this. Both claim to be used in the Donnie Darko movie. I believe somebody made a mistake and the KLLC-section is irrelevant because it's just an unimportant compilation album, but I'm not sure... --Pie.er 11:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I edited the title to the Michael Andrews/Gary Jules version because Gary jules is playing the piano while Jules is just singing. It was also part of the Donnie Darko soundtrack which Andrwes was in charge of, so i bealive they both deserve the same credit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.157.206.75 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

The Gary Jules version is in the trailer for "Gears of War" for the Xbox 360. I beleive this trailer would be a good link if there would be a video for this page because it is done professionaly, though i do not know where to find it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.225.233.21 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean Gary Jules is playing piano while Jules is just singing? Do you mean Michael Andrews is playing piano while Jules is singing? 70.152.77.35 19:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Gears of War

The song is featured in countless videos. Unless the video is an original production of the artist or one its re-creations, the article should not link to other fan videos. Even an ad for a video game is a third-party source and is not directly relevant. You might as well link other song titles to the limitless car ads that use them. --Scottie theNerd 04:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. --Thezeus18 23:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Good for you. --Scottie theNerd 00:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

If a car advert made a song known to a wider audience, it would be worth mentioning it. For example Andy Williams' career took off again in the UK when one of his songs was used in a car commercial there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.146.47.250 (talk) 22:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

R.E.M.

So R.E.M. did do a cover for this song? I'm looking for their version but it seems to sound exactly like the Jules version, right down to the voice... can someone help me?

Modus?

what's whith the dorian modus? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.173.146.149 (talk) 09:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

More about the song's tone and meaning

For a song that's particularly 'lyricful' and seemingly deep and ambiguous lyrics, I'm suprised there's no explorations of the meaning of some of it. Any chance someone knowledgeable could start something? Thanks if so. --Reverieuk 02:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The problem with this is that it's based entirely on personal opinion and interpretation, which goes against Wikipedia policy. 216.104.65.153 01:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Genre

This is as New Wave as Throbbing Gristle is easy listening.

Dorian Mode

Jules' version was much simpler. Instead of a full musical backing, it was in the Dorian mode and used only a haunting set of piano chords and a cello.

Was the original Tears for Fears version not in Dorian mode? Seems like it was to me. 141.156.238.7 05:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the original version was in Dorian too. This line should be changed Focomoso 18:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:TFF Mad World Video Curt.jpg

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BetacommandBot 02:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Stop the madness!

It's fine to list all of the various cover versions of the song, but is it really necessary to list every single instance where the song is used as background music in a television programme? Such useless trivia really is inappropriate for a Wiki article and makes the article longer than it needs to be. MassassiUK 12:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. List has been edited down. MemoriesFade 18:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Saxophones As Opiates soloist

I noticed someone added info on the supposed saxophonist who played on the track 'Saxophones As Opiates' (George Whitmore). As far as I know, this person has never been officially credited, be it on the record sleeve or anywhere else. I've deleted this from the article, but if someone can verify it, please restore. Thanks. MemoriesFade 18:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Article cleanup

I've gone through and rearranged/reworded/added/deleted a bunch of things at once, most notably in the Track listings, Chart positions, and Cover versions sections. I'm hoping to flesh out and synchronize the formatting of all of the TFF articles as time allows. Any gripes or suggestions, please let me know!

Regarding the covers list, it was getting way too large and unorganized, so I've pared it down by keeping only those covers that have actually been recorded. The fact that a band plays the song live or some random DJ included it in a mix is very interesting, but doesn't really belong in this article. MemoriesFade (talk) 08:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Mad World, Gary Joules

What about the song Madworld by Gary Joules? There should be a disgam Androo123 (talk) 15:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

American idol singer

This song was song by an American Idol contestant. Please leave the commentary about the performance in the article about the singer or the show. Not needed here. Thank you, --Tom (talk) 20:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Should this be readded and the section retitled to "cover" versions which I think is what is meant, not "other" versions. Help please, --Tom (talk) 19:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Tom, I changed the section heading to "Other versions and covers" so that it is more inclusive. I think that some of the recordings listed there would be considered covers. It doesn't seem to make sense to create a separate section for covers or to exclude covers from the article, so it seemed like a reasonable compromise. Jlwelsh (talk) 00:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The American Idol note should probably be included, although I think it should go in the popular culture section rather than the covers section (which should generally be limited to recorded versions only, otherwise it could get out of hand in listing every performance of this song ever played live by any artist). It should also be broadened to make reference to the numerous covers of this song that have been performed on the various incarnations of 'Idol' around the world. The only truly notable thing about the Lambert performance was that it received a standing ovation from the judges, but that information is best included in Lambert's own article.MemoriesFade (talk) 00:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Windmills of your Mind

I can't help but think of the correlation between "Mad World" and "Windmills of your Mind". The punctuated and arpeggiated (if that's the right word) sequences seem very very similar. And the concept of circles also appears to be similar.

Perhaps Tears for Fears were on drugs when they remembered singing "Windmills of your Mind" during high school choir and decided to write a song.