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***I do agree that the stage work might not meet the lessor inclusion critertia of [[WP:ENT]], but am thinking of the governing criteria of [[WP:GNG]], as theater is not really considered in [[WP:ENT]]. Having myself been involved in creating an article for [[Bill Oberst Jr.|a thespian]], I am aware of the difficulties. It still needs more research to see if there is less-then-trivial coverage, or if his work received critical review... which is why I proffer only a "weak" keep opinion. [[User:MichaelQSchmidt|MichaelQSchmidt]] ([[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|talk]]) 18:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
***I do agree that the stage work might not meet the lessor inclusion critertia of [[WP:ENT]], but am thinking of the governing criteria of [[WP:GNG]], as theater is not really considered in [[WP:ENT]]. Having myself been involved in creating an article for [[Bill Oberst Jr.|a thespian]], I am aware of the difficulties. It still needs more research to see if there is less-then-trivial coverage, or if his work received critical review... which is why I proffer only a "weak" keep opinion. [[User:MichaelQSchmidt|MichaelQSchmidt]] ([[User talk:MichaelQSchmidt|talk]]) 18:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
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****I think I'll just have to respectively disagree with that, and let the closing administrator decide. [[WP:ENT]] covers actors, and specifically mentions theatre actors through "stage performances". Anyway, I see where your coming from, it could use research but we could say that for every article which comes through here. A ''preliminary'' look leads to me to believe notability cannot be established. Regards, --—<small><span style="border:2px solid #340383;color:#5a3596;padding:1px">[[User:Cyclonenim|<b>Cyclonenim</b>]] |[[User_talk:Cyclonenim|<font style="color:#5a3596"> Chat </font>]]</span></small> 20:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
****I think I'll just have to respectively disagree with that, and let the closing administrator decide. [[WP:ENT]] covers actors, and specifically mentions theatre actors through "stage performances". Anyway, I see where your coming from, it could use research but we could say that for every article which comes through here. A ''preliminary'' look leads to me to believe notability cannot be established. Regards, --—<small><span style="border:2px solid #340383;color:#5a3596;padding:1px">[[User:Cyclonenim|<b>Cyclonenim</b>]] |[[User_talk:Cyclonenim|<font style="color:#5a3596"> Chat </font>]]</span></small> 20:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::'''DELETE''' - if I had my way I would delete the article and kill the actor. ≠≠ OK not kill him, but at least make him do some more films and get himself on the wilkipedia. Did he write thie article or was it done by a pimp ? [[User:Hasmme Vogel|Hasmme Vogel]] ([[User talk:Hasmme Vogel|talk]]) 13:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Non-notable actor. Oscarthecat (talk) 16:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- Speedy delete. A7. Completely non-notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- Delete - I wouldn't call it a speedy delete because of his one role in a notable film, but it still fails to meet WP:ENT, as per no significant finding on IMDB or Google. I can't find any significant contribution to the acting profession other than some stage work and one appearance in a film (as shown on the IMDB page). WP:ENT states that multiple notable film roles are indications of notability, and I'm afraid I fail to see that in this case. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat 18:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 23:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- What role in a notable film? He is listed in one film that I'm having difficulty calling it notable. It won two "awards", the "Golden Trailer" and the "Heineken Red Star Award". Barely noticed at the box office. Is there a different film I'm missing? Niteshift36 (talk) 04:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nah you're right actually, looking back at WP:NF I couldn't class it at notable. But it known to a wider audience than most films that come through AfD. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat 12:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- What role in a notable film? He is listed in one film that I'm having difficulty calling it notable. It won two "awards", the "Golden Trailer" and the "Heineken Red Star Award". Barely noticed at the box office. Is there a different film I'm missing? Niteshift36 (talk) 04:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Let's ignore the nearly non-existant IMDB credits and look at coverage for his stage work. There may be enough there with some work to flesh out the BLP [1]. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 06:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't overlook stage work in my assessment, and although he's had multiple roles in theatre, what's not so clear is whether or not these roles/plays were notable. Most of them I would dare to say no because I can't find any sources on his performance, thus meaning the play itself or his role within it was not well known enough to merit an article online or in a paper. However, one performance in the play Seagull has gained him some recognition, most favorably by the Daily Herald, which is the largest paper in Chicago, but it's only a brief mention. It's a tough call, but I'd say he's definitely not had multiple AND notable roles in theatre, but one at most. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat 09:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I do agree that the stage work might not meet the lessor inclusion critertia of WP:ENT, but am thinking of the governing criteria of WP:GNG, as theater is not really considered in WP:ENT. Having myself been involved in creating an article for a thespian, I am aware of the difficulties. It still needs more research to see if there is less-then-trivial coverage, or if his work received critical review... which is why I proffer only a "weak" keep opinion. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 18:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I think I'll just have to respectively disagree with that, and let the closing administrator decide. WP:ENT covers actors, and specifically mentions theatre actors through "stage performances". Anyway, I see where your coming from, it could use research but we could say that for every article which comes through here. A preliminary look leads to me to believe notability cannot be established. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat 20:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I do agree that the stage work might not meet the lessor inclusion critertia of WP:ENT, but am thinking of the governing criteria of WP:GNG, as theater is not really considered in WP:ENT. Having myself been involved in creating an article for a thespian, I am aware of the difficulties. It still needs more research to see if there is less-then-trivial coverage, or if his work received critical review... which is why I proffer only a "weak" keep opinion. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 18:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't overlook stage work in my assessment, and although he's had multiple roles in theatre, what's not so clear is whether or not these roles/plays were notable. Most of them I would dare to say no because I can't find any sources on his performance, thus meaning the play itself or his role within it was not well known enough to merit an article online or in a paper. However, one performance in the play Seagull has gained him some recognition, most favorably by the Daily Herald, which is the largest paper in Chicago, but it's only a brief mention. It's a tough call, but I'd say he's definitely not had multiple AND notable roles in theatre, but one at most. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat 09:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- DELETE - if I had my way I would delete the article and kill the actor. ≠≠ OK not kill him, but at least make him do some more films and get himself on the wilkipedia. Did he write thie article or was it done by a pimp ? Hasmme Vogel (talk) 13:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)