Talk:Air Florida Flight 90

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personal recollections

In reference to the Coast Guard Reservist comments 20 years later, I, as a member of the 464th Medium Boat (LCM) Transportation Company in Alexandria, also experienced the day to day recovery of the passengers, plane and personal belongings of the passengers. One of our LCM's was the main Vessel used by Navy divers to deliver the bodies of the pasengers to our vessel, we then had to identify, tag and tie around the chest a rope for shipment to shore. I do not remember the Coast Guard having any responsibility of identifying the bodies. This was all done by our Army Reserve Unit. I remember seeing all frozen faces of all the passengers plus being handled the 2 week old baby from The Navy Divers on Super Bowl Sunday Morning to wrap in a blanket. Yes, the eyes of the baby were frozen with looked like tears coming from his face.

It does not seem like twenty-five years ago. I was working at the airport at the time and I can still remember the awful feeling when I heard about it. Later, I had the opportunity to visit the hangar where the aircraft remains were stored after the NTSB had gone over them. The one thing that forever remains in my mind are the tables filled with the personal effects. Little things like shoes or paperback books. I still see the children's toys lying there. After all these years I still choke up and start to weep. People who work in aviation should see these things. That's when the results of an air crash become very real and human.Phyllis1753 23:29, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Just as a matter of hair-splitting...

A total of 78 persons died in what was the worst accident in Washington, D.C. until the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

Since the Pentagon is in Arlington, Virginia, the September 11 attacks technically did not happen in Washington, D.C. You may want to rephrase the above sentence slightly. -- Northenglish (talk) -- 19:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at it now. I reworded it to refer now to the whole metropolitan area vs. DC itself. SchuminWeb (Talk) 22:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Howard Stern reference

The Howard Stern reference deleted. It might be appropriate in an article with the title "Howard Stern." It is NOT appropriate here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.240.252.9 (talk • contribs) .

While Mr. Stern's conduct might have been beyond what most would consider the boundaries of good taste, it is a response to the crash, and thus is related enough to deserve a place. Thus it's going back in. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Agree that is should be mentioned, have reinstated it and provided a source link. Every time I remember the crash, I also remember Stern's stunt. I think it was the first time I had ever heard of him RoyBatty42 18:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Removed the reference that it was potentially a lead up to his firing at WWDC. The History of Howard Stern Act 1 had a complete, flat out denial that it was related to his firing in any way. Taiki (talk) 04:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Worthwhile to incorporate?

Does anyone think that this is worthwhile to incorporate?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/11/AR2007011102220.html

This is from the January 12, 2007 edition of The Washington Post. Could be worth something. Thoughts? SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Kelly Duncan

There is a message on the bio of Kelly Duncan that the article should be 'incorporated' into the article. I would disagree as other survivors have their own bio page. In addition, it is of interest to be a separate article, in that it provides an interview describing a personal reflection as to how life-changing the event was.

Finally, other survivors and heroes have their own articles.Wayfarers43 (talk) 06:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I saw the notice as I was browsing by. I don't believe there is much reason to merge Kelly Duncan into this article, for the reasons you mention (the article is also decently structured with references - a welcome rarity for its type). Moreover, if we merged this one then we would have to do the same thing with the other people's articles. It was said that the article went against WP:ONEEVENT, and it does conceivably, but in this case it makes some sense to give each person their own article, particularly as many of them have received various awards and distinctions for their actions. Just my thoughts... The Fiddly Leprechaun · Catch Me! 23:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with the above reasons. It just would not make sense to merge. Let's keep them separate; that's my 2 cents. Airplaneman (talk) 02:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

USAF Involvement

I drove a van from Bolling AFB, with several security police officers on board. We secured the landing area for the helicopter as well as other duties. If I remeber correctly there was a subway accident as well and how we managed to get involved as DCPD was tied up with the subway incident. I recall receiving a Humanitarian Servive Medal for our parcipation. Why is ther n mention of the USAF involvement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iigeminii (talk • contribs) 22:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Accuracy

This article contains an unsourced statement that the aircraft attained a maximum altitude of 352 feet. However, the actual NTSB report, to which this article links, says the actual altitude could not be determined, but that modeling showed it was likely between 200 and 300 feet (pages 53-54).76.23.157.102 (talk) 09:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)