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Spelling

Counsel(l)ed can be spelled either way, and I've used it in each. I think one is the European way, the other the American (don't quote me on that though), so it's really a matter of personal preference.

The Manual of Style says to use British English for Tolkien articles. Thu 13:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant sections?

I've replaced "House of Thingol and Melian" tree with template, but I'm not quite sure that the tree is needed overall: Melian has little to do with the descedants of Olwe and Elmo, and those which are relevant in the article appear in the Half-elven tree - which is more appropriate as shows Melian's importance to later history. Also I suppose "Etymology" section is needless. As it stands now, all information from it would be more convenietly included into the main text, alternatively much more etymological detail must be inroduced (but this would entail original research). --Súrendil 12:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, once again I can't agree. Melian is a major character of the Silmarillion, her relation to descendants in the third age is secondary. The half-elven tree is actually superfluous to an article about her and could be a one line reference in the text. Part of the difficulty in using a template tree instead of individual family tree is that the template forces its own view and the tree can't be tailored to the character. The previous tree could be individually modified to leave out Olwe and Elmo (who are at least her in-laws - what do Finwe, Indis, Hador, etc have to do with this article?). Tree should fit article, not article fit template. Etymology is of interest and if you remove it people will begin interrupting the text by entering the same things parenthetically into the acticle text leading to poor formatting which is why words have been moved there in the first place.Tttom1 21:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

See Talk:Melian for reasons to move this article to main namespace. Súrendil 18:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been renamed from Melian (Middle-earth) to Melian as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 11:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture can we post a picture of her in this article, please?

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+== Spelling ==
+Counsel(l)ed can be spelled either way, and I've used it in each. I think one is the European way, the other the American (don't quote me on that though), so it's really a matter of personal preference.
+The Manual of Style says to use British English for Tolkien articles. [[User:Thu|Thu]] 13:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
+== Redundant sections? ==
+I've replaced "House of Thingol and Melian" tree with template, but I'm not quite sure that the tree is needed overall: Melian has little to do with the descedants of Olwe and Elmo, and those which are relevant in the article appear in the Half-elven tree - which is more appropriate as shows Melian's importance to later history. Also I suppose "Etymology" section is needless. As it stands now, all information from it would be more convenietly included into the main text, alternatively much more etymological detail must be inroduced (but this would entail original research). --[[User:YLSS|Súrendil]] 12:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
+::Hi, once again I can't agree. Melian is a major character of the Silmarillion, her relation to descendants in the third age is secondary. The half-elven tree is actually superfluous to an article about her and could be a one line reference in the text. Part of the difficulty in using a template tree instead of individual family tree is that the template forces its own view and the tree can't be tailored to the character. The previous tree could be individually modified to leave out Olwe and Elmo (who are at least her in-laws - what do Finwe, Indis, Hador, etc have to do with this article?). Tree should fit article, not article fit template. Etymology is of interest and if you remove it people will begin interrupting the text by entering the same things parenthetically into the acticle text leading to poor formatting which is why words have been moved there in the first place.[[User:Tttom|Tttom1]] 21:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
+==Requested move==
+See [[Talk:Melian]] for reasons to move this article to main namespace. [[User:YLSS|Súrendil]] 18:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
+''This article has been renamed {{{{{subst|}}}#if:Melian (Middle-earth)|from [[Melian (Middle-earth)]] to [[Melian]]}} as the result of a [[wikipedia:requested moves|move request]].'' --[[User:Stemonitis|Stemonitis]] 11:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
+Picture
+can we post a picture of her in this article, please?