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Falling Down

How is Twitter a bad source if it is literally her saying what happened? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

You are gaining the knowledge of when the music video was filmed, which readers would want to know about and why would she lie about it? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It's not like it's super important, but it is notable enough. Plus, obviously the video was shot after the song was recorded (which is not known) and before its release. The exact date is better. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand your view of a better source than a magazine and the actual artist stating it. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

O.K. You were right. That was a weak example, but per the tweet http://twitter.com/selenagomez/status/3319998684, it was filmed on August 15, 2009. This one DOES give a date. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

What about this one, http://twitter.com/selenagomez/status/3330282759?

I think it should be stated, she is on set filming it because she is saying that a picture of the music video is coming soon. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Why is Twitter not a real source? Magazines, newspapers, and MTV news wouldn't make a report just on how she said she was filming a video that day. And even if they did, it would be based on all of the tweets she made - ex: the Examiner (which was used earlier), http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1617283/20090730/cyrus__miley.jhtml, and http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1618671/20090813/gomez__selena.jhtml. So if reliable sources like those use Twitter as a source, so should we. It is never going to be explicitly said: "Filming my music video for "Falling Down" right now, on August 15." It is a SOURCE. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:01, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I am stressing over it because it is known, and if you can add it, "why not?" -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Edits

Hey kww, just making sure about something. If on a page lets say it says something sold or made a certain amount of money, and there is no source either there or in the body of the page, can I remove that?Im pretty sure that it falls under my bounds being that its basic editing, but just bc its a number I just want to make sure.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 06:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Well usually I would put a [CN] for that kind of figure, but for this case tell me your opinion. The page I saw is The Adventures of Mimi and in the second paragraph it says it grossed over $26 million, and its based on the not completed chart total that was deleted. So what do you suggest be done for that?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Requested chart

Per request at WT:RFA, I made File:Enwiki Admin Activity 09 2009.png. It shows that 25% of our most active admins are long-term inactive and that another 15% are at least less active then they use to be. MBisanz ^talk 12:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

i was right

Seems your over undoing all my Broken Hearted Girl pages didnt work. Theres a full page up now + uve been proven wrong. sorry i LOVE to gloat. Blazemon (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

OMG if you had just sed that in the first place we wouldnt have a problem Blazemon (talk) 16:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

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Petergriffin9901

I'd like to bring something to your attention as it seems that Petergriffin9901 edits are all about praise Mariah Carey and discraise other female artists, even after last discussion about this. Before he was blocked, Petergriffin9901 was constantly inflating Mariah Carey sales. Now he is lowering the sales of other female artists.

1. On the My Love Is Your Love album page Petergriffin9901 changed the text under "When You Believe" from "Performed by Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey" to "Performed by Mariah Carey & Whitney Houston". Clearly, so that Carey could be first. According to him even in her own article, Houston can not have her name before Carey. Petergriffin9901 justified his edit saying: "Their names are in that order on the single cover". Just like that, without any effort and dispite the fact that this article is about an album. Well, although I'm not a Whitney Houston fan, I did some searching and after just few minutes I know that on Houston’s album it is written: "When You Believe" (Duet with Mariah Carey from ‘’The Prince Of Egypt’’). And about the single cover - Carey is first on the international releases, but the U.S. covers have Houston's name first.

2. I understand that Petergriffin9901 should ask you before changing numbers. But what about this kind of changes: on Just Whitney he changed text from "has sold approximately one million" to "has sold less than one million". Number stays the same but the meaning does not. Of course he did it so that Houston look worse. But that’s not all. The source given there says clearly: "The album sold only three million copies worldwide, less than a million of which were in the US." And Petergriffin9901 wrote: "Just Whitney has sold less than one million copies worldwide." How can he justify that? I assume he changed it after reading the source.

3. Above are the latest changes. One moth ago, on the “One Sweet Day” he changed the text from “one of the biggest American hits of both Carey's and Boyz II Men's careers” to “the biggest song in Billboard's history” without any references. And he won’t find them as this song is not what he claims it is. Again, all that just for Carey to be the best of all, to glorify her.

I’d like to know your opinion about these edits, especially that Petergriffin9901 is still on probation. And if somehow he will be able to edit Wikipedia on his own, I know there will be many conflicts as he really hasn't changed. Max24 (talk) 22:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey kww, I can explain those two changes. For the Whitney Houston album page, this is the source it had (i did not add it) http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/artists/Whitney-Houston/38 and as you can see it says it sold 3 million copies worldwide and less than a million were in the usa, making what the article said (approximately one million in the usa) not true. All I changed was from that to less than a million in the usa, which is what the source says. 2. for the song on the whitney album 'my love is your love' all i did was change it from whitney houston and mariah carey to mariah carey and whitney houston. The reason is simply because i previously saw that on the article and article cover art and single cover it was written with mariah careys name first, just a simple edit here is the page so u can see it, the page for the song When You Believe. All Max24 is trying to do is sabotage me in every way possible, if you review what i just presented you will see that non of my edits were fake or out of my probation range, Max24 is just throwing any edit i make in hope of getting me banned. Please let me know once you reviewed this,thanks kww.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

One more thing kww, I did not write it sold 1 million worlwide, if you review the change before mine compared to mine youll see I didnt change the words united states to worldwide, I didnt even read that part, all i changed were the words APPROXIMATELY to LESS THAN.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Basically Just Whitney is a typo, i was supposed to change the worldwide to United States, but all I got to change was approximately to less than. It was supposed to say exactly like the source, that 'In the united states the album sold less than 1 million. I agree it would have been better to write 3 million worldwide, but as i said it was a typo.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 12:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I understand what your sayin and agree, I wasnt careful enough. But I want to explain that I didnt change the order of the names to glorify Carey, but because I went to its page and its mentioned like that on the page and on the photo and single cover. That is the only reason. Were you able to look at the last comment I left you about eminem?thanks.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Venezuela charts

Is this chart a part of WP:GOODCHARTS? If so I failed to find it there. And another request, please deal with the above user's request. Petergriffin has been doing the same thing with Madonna articles also. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with what Im doing to the Madonna articles. All I do is review the sources for total album sales, and if it says differently then I change it. You just want to blame it on the fact that it has something to do with Carey. I do the same to her discography page and album pages, if the sales are inflated then I change them.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 12:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Eminem

Hey kww, on the above mentioned in the opening paragraph, i would like to make a change but want to double check with you. It says he sold over 80 million albums and is the best selling artist of the decade. Now first of all these 2 things are not sourced, the source says something else. Second britney spears is the biggest selling artist of the decade not him and there are no sources. So what I would like to do is remove the part that says that he is the biggest selling artist of the decade and put a source for the total album sales being 75 M not 80 M ...this is the source http://www.universalmusic.com/artist-news/eminem%E2%80%99s-new-album-%E2%80%9Crelapse%E2%80%9D-drops-in-may-%E2%80%9Crelapse-2%E2%80%9D-later-this-year ...thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 06:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Thats what I was just going to show you but it didnt post because of 'edit conflict'. I found that also on the britney page as well, so I would like to add both of those sources and change it from 80M to 75M and the best selling artist in the United States in the 2000s. http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/34074/chart-watch-extra-the-top-20-album-sellers-of-the-2000s ..--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 13:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

So which do you want to me to put, of the decade or of the 2000s? and making sure that that is in the united states right?not worldwide.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 13:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Turkey Top 20

Hi, I'm updating this chart here on wiki and I have an problem. Link to official Turkey Top 20 chart (on Billboard.tr) is not working anymore. I don't know what to do. Have you got sugestion? Thank You --SveroH (talk) 13:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

well, when i try to go to site it says that that web site can not be found. Last week was everything right, and from Monday there is some problem with site. --SveroH (talk) 13:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

thank you --SveroH (talk) 13:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I have just saw question about Croatian singles chart. I'm from Croatia and I'm doing music articles on hr(croatian) wiki. We use Open (Otvoreni) radio as source for Croatian singles chart. We in Croatia don't have official singles chart 8for singles that are not Croatian), but we use Open Radio as source because it plays only music from outside Croatia and it is 3rd most listend radio in Croatia. Open radio singles chart For Croatian music we use this site. It is an official Croatian singles chart but only for Croatian music. --SveroH (talk) 13:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

oh, I didn't know about single network charts. Thanks. I agreen with you. Problem is that we in Croatia don't have official singles chart for singles from outside Croatia, we only have HRTOP20, as you mentioned there], but HRTOP20 is only for Croatian singles. --SveroH (talk) 13:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)