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For the book by Edna O'Brien, see A Pagan Place (book).

A Pagan Place was an album released in June 1984 by The Waterboys. It was the first Waterboys record with Karl Wallinger as part of the band and also includes Roddy Lorimer's fist trumpet solo for the band on the track "A Pagan Place".

The album shares a title with the book A Pagan Place, written by Irish novelist Edna O'Brien, about a divorcee who leaves her conventional life and takes up travelling in France. According to a post at the official Waterboys forum, Mike Scott, who chose the album name, has never read the book[1], and neither the album nor the title track share any other similarities with the novel.

Production history

Recording for A Pagan Place was begun before either the band's first single, "A Girl Called Johnny", or album, The Waterboys, were released. The album is comprised of two recording sessions. The first, in November of 1982 at Redshop Studio in London, involved Mike Scott, Anthony Thistlethwaite and Kevin Wilkinson. The second session, held September of 1983 at Rockfield Studio in Wales, included contributions from Wallinger, who had joined the band that year[2]. The four, the early band's core membership, were joined by Lorimer, Tim Blanthorn, and Eddi Reader, among others, for later overdubbing of the sessions to add full instrumentation to the recordings.

The album was released in June of 1984 (see 1984 in music). Peter Anderson, writing in Record Collector asserts that there was "unanimous critical acclaim"[3].

A Pagan Place was reissued in 2002 by Chrysalis Records, having been remastered. The reissue included both new tracks from the recording sessions for both A Pagan Place and from The Waterboys, along with extended versions of tracks from the original release.

Songs

Cover for the single of "The Big Music", the title of which would define The Waterboys' early sound.

A Pagan Place expanded The Waterboys' treatment of religious themes beyond the Christian beliefs of "December" from The Waterboys. "A Church Not Made With Hands" is an ode to a woman who "is everywhere and nowhere / A church not made with hands".

Both "All the Things She Gave Me" and "The Thrill is Gone" discuss the end of a romantic relationship. "Rags" and "Somebody Might Wave Back" discuss despair and optimism in loneliness. Scott's songwriting has been criticized as being overly introspective, and all four tracks contain some element of self-reflection.

"The Big Music" was released as a single, and became a descriptor of the sound of the album, the preceding debut The Waterboys and the following album This Is the Sea. Usage of the term spread to include other bands with a similar sound. The single included "Bury My Heart" and "The Earth Only Endures". "Bury My Heart", a reference to "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", is described by Anderson as "a lament to the decimated American Red Indians"[3]. "The Earth Only Endures" is a traditional Sioux song arranged by Scott.

"Red Army Blues" first appeared on the twelve-inch single for "December" from The Waterboys. The song is a first-person narrative of the life of a young Soviet soldier in World War II who participates in the Battle of Berlin. The soldier, along with many others, is sent to the Gulag by Stalin. Scott has "distanced himself from the song", but fans continue to request it at concerts[3]. Al Stewart's 1974 song "Roads to Moscow" tells a very similar story. Both songs are based upon the book The Diary of Vikenty Angorov[4].

The final track of the original release, "A Pagan Place", featuring a trumpet solo from Lorimer, is an ambiguous questioning of the process of Christianizing a Pagan culture.

According to Nikki Sudden, the song "Cathy", included on the album's re-issue, was originally a Nikki Sudden song. Sudden writes, about an evening in 1982 when Sudden was staying in Scott's apartment, "Late that night�around midnight�Mike recorded a lead vocal to the backing track for my song, Cathy. We did a quick mix and that was that until twenty years ago (sic) when he includes the number on the reissue of his A Pagan Place album"[5].

Track listing

All tracks written by Mike Scott, but see "Cathy" on Reissue track listing below.

  1. "Church Not Made With Hands"
  2. "All The Things She Gave Me"
  3. "The Thrill Is Gone"
  4. "Rags"
  5. "Somebody Might Wave Back"
  6. "The Big Music"
  7. "Red Army Blues"
  8. "A Pagan Place"

Reissue track listing

  1. "Church Not Made With Hands" – 6:02
  2. "All The Things She Gave Me" (Unedited) – 5:32
  3. "The Thrill Is Gone" (Unedited) – 5:30
  4. "Rags" – 5:20
  5. "Some Of My Best Friends Are Trains" – 6:01
  6. "Somebody Might Wave Back" – 2:43
  7. "The Big Music" – 4:46
  8. "Red Army Blues" – 8:03
  9. "A Pagan Place" – 5:14
  10. "The Late Train To Heaven" (Rockfield Mix) – 3:30
  11. "Love That Kills" (Instrumental) – 6:20
  12. "The Madness Is Here Again" – 3:59
  13. "Cathy" (Nikki Sudden claims credit[5]) – 2:35
  14. "Down Through The Dark Streets" – 9:03

Personnel

Notes and references

  1. ^ "A Pagan Place". Mike Scott & The Waterboys forum. November 14. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= and |year= / |date= mismatch (help)
  2. ^ "Archive 1978-85". mikescottwaterboys.com. October 28. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= and |year= / |date= mismatch (help)
  3. ^ a b http://www.phpwebspace.net/waterboys/biog/pageone.htm. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help); Unknown parameter |Author= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Date= ignored (|date= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Title= ignored (|title= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Work= ignored (|work= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Year= ignored (|year= suggested) (help)
  4. ^ "FAQ". mikescottwaterboys. October 23. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= and |year= / |date= mismatch (help)
  5. ^ a http://nikkisudden.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=269&sid=1f7d8f9c17dfc788833f6176b2c1c69e. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help); Unknown parameter |Author= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Date= ignored (|date= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Title= ignored (|title= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Work= ignored (|work= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |Year= ignored (|year= suggested) (help)