Talk:List of Phineas and Ferb characters

Editing cleanup

I tried placing an external links section including the imdb site and some of the links from the main article to help clear up the citation issue but ended up being cleared by a bot? Anyone know why? 68.13.6.96 (talk) 06:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I think this might have been because of the wiki link from the main page on P&F 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Is this quote needed? Doofenshmirtz

Even though he and Perry are enemies, they sometimes act like friends. For example, Doofenshmirtz gets a date and asks Perry to act like a mindless pet. A major example is in "It's About Time!", when Doofenshmirtz get a new nemesis named Peter the Panda, Perry goes into a state of depression. But his is just a scam, although, Doofenshmirtz admits that he regretted getting a new nemesis. 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Meap

This is a minor character that appears in a few episodes not a secondary one. Is he (it?) really worth mentioning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be a few minor characters listed as secondary characters. I missed a few episodes so can anyone help with cleaning that up? Meep, Pinky, and Jenny seem minor to me. Also seems Vivian, Lil Suzzy, and Charlene could be argued as such as well 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Conflict

This statement "The animals use the first letter of their species as their code name (i.e. a dog would be Agent D, a chicken would be Agent C, etc.)" doesn't coincide with the statement under Pinky who is also declared as being Agent P. I missed that episode so can anyone else clarify? Should this be removed form Perry's profile? Also does the article really need the info on Pinky? Is he a secondary character or a minor one? 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

It could be a mistake!What if it's not species but name like Waldo the Worm or Dean the Dog because that makes sense.--Yoshi39 (talk) 19:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

"Nationality"

Since when is "Hispanic" a nationality? Why do Isabelle and Bajeet get called "Hispanic" and "Indian" while Buford gats to be "American of Dutch descent". Isabelle (who by her last name is also Jewish) was, I'm sure born in the US. Bajeet, I'm less sure of but am presuming that he was either born here or is naturalized. American is not synonymous with "white".--Tricksterson (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. However Bajeet was born in India. Isabella's mom is also listed as "Mexican" where have we seen "Mexican". Her accent/name could be from any number of backgrounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.144.48 (talk) 17:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Too long

Isn't the article getting too long? Do we need to split it up?Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 17:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Jeremy Johnson

This sentence: "Jeremy is 16 years old due to the fact that he can drive a car with no parent meaning he has had his license for 6 months" Just isn't worded right. First it sounds like original research. Second how many states have the law that way now? And do we know for a fact that the 'tri-state area' is one such place? Also (again original research) just being able to drive means that he is OVER the legal driving age, so he could be 17, or even 18. Working in a fast food place is a better reason to be labeled as being 16. He also isn't "often known" for hosting exchange students since he has done this once. (and show me where he was the host of "DD" and not just a friend?). "Chez Platypus" is not the only episode where Candace and Jeremy go on a date. and "Phineas and Ferb Get Busted" was a dream so can't be counted on for accurate info. And if we list every single episode where Jeremy and Candace interact, it will A: get very long, and B: become a list. I feel key episodes in their relationship should be the only ones mentioned.

The whole paragraph should be rewritten to something like: Jeremy is around the same age as Candace. He can drive a car without a parent and works at "Mr. Slushy Burger", sometimes called "Mr. Slushy Dawg" (a parody of Burger King) at the mall. Candace has a crush on Jeremy and it seems he also likes her. They are first seen in a romantic view in "Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror!". They also go on dates as seen in "Chez Platypus" where they have a romantic dinner together and "Journey to the Center of Candace" when Jeremy has a sandwich named after Candace at his uncles restaurant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.144.48 (talk) 17:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Too long (The sequel)

We really need to do something about the length. Do we even need a section about characters who have only been in one episode?Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 21:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Honestly I was happy they were finally pulled from the secondary character list. I think you might be right though. A few characters probably need to be zapped. What we could do is place them here on the dicussion board. If they appear in enough episodes, then someone could pull them to the main page.

Buford

Isn't Buford missing a chromezone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.97.95 (talk) 19:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Removed Minor Characters

Do to lack of notability I'm removing some minor characters. Here is a list and info of the ones removed.

• The Talking Zebra appears sometimes in Candace's imagination and calls her "Kevin". He has appeared in "The Ballad of Bad Beard" and in "Phineas and Ferb Get Busted" episodes. Candace once remarked that she sees him all the time.

• Dr. Hirano (Ming Wen) is Stacy's mother and works as a doctor. She appeared in the episode, "I Scream You Scream," treating Isabella's tonsils. It is inferred that she does not think of her daughter as a genius for Stacy asked Candace twice to tell her mom that Stacy was a genius.

• Suzy and Jeremy Johnson have been seen with a pet poodle, that Suzy had allegedly trained to be mean to Candace.

• Marty the Rabbit Boy and his Musical Blender auditioned for, and was the winner of the Danville auditions for The Next Super American Pop Teen Idol Star! Marty first appeared as Candace attempted to expose her siblings new music career, although the two were seen being invited to visit the Huge-O-Records office backstage, a shadowed out act was seen on the stage visually resembling Phineas and Ferb. However, it was not Phineas and the Ferb-Tones, but Marty, who then proceeded to play "The Blue Danube" on a blender. After this discovery, clearly not believing Candace, Linda then took her to get an eye exam ("Flop Starz"). Marty made a second appearance later, playing "Gitchee, Gitchee, Goo" on his blender to try and cheer Candace up after she mistakenly apologized to him for putting Perry the Platypus outside, thinking again that he was Phineas and Ferb. ("Oh, There You Are Perry")

• A mouse who lives with Heinz. He loves cheese of course. He freed Perry twice from a trap. He once powered Heinz's machine and then attacks Heinz which he screams and Perry's glass trap broke. Also Perry sprayed cheese on a rope which the mouse comes and nibbles at it.

• Peter the Panda, (not voiced) ,replaced Perry as Dr. Doofenshmirtz's nemisis in "All About Time". He does not "speak" in the whole episode. He may be in O.W.C.A.

• Amanda (Jennifer Stone) Candace's oldest child in the future. She seems to act a lot like Candace. (Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo)

• Xavier Candace's future child. (Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo)

• Fred (Moises Arias) Candace's future child. (Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo)

Phineas & Ferb's Age

In the episode "Phineas & Ferb's Quantun Boogaloo", it is implied Phineas & Ferb are 10. First off, they travel 20 years into the future. Secondly, their future mother says "My Phineas & Ferb are 30 years old now." And, quite clearly 30 - 20 = 10.

Orphaned references in List of characters in Phineas and Ferb

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of characters in Phineas and Ferb's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "AM1":

• From Phineas and Ferb: Strike, Joe. "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine. Retrieved 2009-08-26.
• From Rollercoaster (Phineas and Ferb): Strike, Joe. "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine.
• From Dan Povenmire: Strike, Joe (2008-02-01). "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine.
• From Phineas Flynn: Strike, Joe. "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine.

Reference named "podcast":

• From Flop Starz: Dan Povenmire, Jeff "Swampy" Marsh. "The Geek Dads" Podcast interview with Povenmire & Marsh (Podcast). Wired. Retrieved 2009-08-14.
• From Phineas and Ferb (video game): Dan Povenmire, Jeff "Swampy" Marsh. "The Geek Dads" Podcast interview with Povenmire & Marsh.
• From Phineas Flynn: Dan Povenmire, Jeff "Swampy" Marsh. "The Geek Dads" Podcast interview with Povenmire & Marsh (Audio). {{cite AV media}}: Text "accessdate-2009-09-30" ignored (help)
• From Jeff "Swampy" Marsh: "Geek Dads Podcast Interview with Povenmire and Marsh]]".

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Perry The Platypus

Not sure who it was but somebody has listed Frank Welker as Perry instead of Dee Bradley Baker. pretty sure it has been well established that Dee is the voice for Perry but I am not going to make the edit, I'll leave that up to the more experienced editors.--Nick4leader (talk) 17:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Additional Pages Needed, Soon

Additional Pages are becoming necessary for Candace Flynn, Ferb Fletcher, Heinz Doofenschmirtz, Perry the Platypus, Linda Flynn-Fletcher, and Isabella Garcia-Shapiro as well as a page for the growing list of Minor Characters appearing on the show. If anybody need a reason why, just look at the lengths of some of the infoboxes and the lengths of their articles in the list of Characters page. Depite their length, most of which contain quite vague information about the characters, Candace and Linda being the only exceptions. These articles are growing daily as this series is yet to complete its second season and a third even longer season is planned. While I have found a way to condense the infoboxes, the articles I cannot do anything about. Rhatsa26X (talk) 02:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

They will not get their own pages unless they have good reception. Just look at Phineas Flynn's article as an example. Almost every sentence is referenced. It is about to become a Good Article. Think about how you would make someone else's page look exactly like that. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 12:21, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

You know there is such a thing as overkill referencing, Phineas Flynn is such an example. For such a small article, it has nearly 40 references, and contains very vague information on the character that only watching the show will provide. Besides information is probably available for most of these characters, if anybody is willing to find it. Don't shrug it off until you try and don't remove information that can be verified by those who watch the show. This is NOT a Dictionary. Rhatsa26X (talk) 22:00 (UTC) / 18:00 (CDT), 19 October 2009

What are you talking about? His article has loads of information on his character. Just look at the "Character" section. Also, no, Wikipedia is not a Dictionary, but it is an Encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not an episode plot guide, and does not need excessive information on what Candice or Linda did in the future. Half of this article should be deleted. Most of this wouldn't even survive on a Wikia. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 23:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Rhatsa, I believe you need to brush up on WP policy. There is no such thing as having too much refs. In fact, every article on Wikipedia is supposed to be referenced. This isn't a fan site - character articles are supposed to contain out-of-universe material and not just fictional biographies. I'd suggest reading WP:MOS and the policies listed at WP:TV. The Flash ^{talk} 02:35, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

This is becoming ludicrous people. All this started with what amounts to a simple request, but has been blown to the lengths of stupidity worthy of Doofenscmirtz himself. There was relevent information on the character page but someone wiped it out again, not only my work but many other's as well. It seems I am only getting this flak on this particular show when I have helped out with many others (i.e. Star Trek, Tiny Toon Adventures, Eureka, and many others) as well as started almost a thousand articles, both fiction and nonfiction, with only a handfull of problems, mainly early on. An explanation of what I do seems in order: Most of what I do is create the bare bones of an article, a stub if you will, so other Wikipedians can expand on what is there. Then I generaly tag the article with whatever group the article pertains to (i.e. WikiProject Television or WikiProject Indiana, which I am a member) and let that group take over the affairs and writing of that article. I seldomly get involved in the page after that. This page has become a very exceptional example. Although I didn't start the article, I did contribute heavily to it as ell as many others and most of the contibutions have been deleted.

So I will look for the information myself and start these articles myself. I plan to start this project in a couple of days with Ferb Fletcher and Candace Flynn. I will be against trying to delete it without trying to add to them, making them worthy of Wikipedia.

I don't like having to sound forceful but if not only does no one listen but make excuses and accusations, it becomes pointless to reason so
Discussion Closed: Any future discussion on this matter will now be discussed on the new character pages in a couple of days.
Rhatsa26X (talk) 22:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Do not create those pages without reception or they will be redirected to this article. Wikipedia has a Notablity policy and doesnt allow articles for just anything. They have to be notable subjects referenced by Reliable Sources. Unless you find reception for these characters(Look at Phineas Flynn#Reception for an example) then these characters are not notable enough for a separate page. Also please remember what I said before. This article or any separate character article should not exist to tell everything the characters have done, and shouldn't consist of all "episode plot info". They should just describe the character's... character! _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 01:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Also, there's no fact that no one else wants to bother and do this - I've already been working on it. You're not listening to the clear fact that the rules state without sources for everything, the page will be deleted/redirected. It's policy, just listen to that, please. If you're going to create the page, source everything and focus on the production info and a lot less on the biography. This really is just the rules. The Flash ^{talk} 22:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Well I tend to get to this page through just typing Ferb. Also when considering notability, Phineas and Ferb was recognized along with SpongeBob as far as current cartoon shows. I think there maybe enough here to pull them out to their own article. 70.165.110.211 (talk) 19:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)