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highly toxic - slightly toxic

I have changed 'highly toxic' to 'slightly toxic'. While this may mislead some people, we would not consider table salt as 'highly toxic'. OTOH, if ethylen glycol (LD 100g, Xn) and salt were 'highly toxic', what would we call sodium nitrite (food additive, LD 5g), potassium cyanide (LD 250 mg,T+), nicotine (LD 70 mg,T+)? Darsie from german wiki pedia (talk) 14:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poor language in a GA article??

I don't know if this was overlooked and added in after GA status was acheived, but in the very first paragraph a couple lines down this sentence appears: "major cause of toxicity is not the ethylene glycol itself but the metabolites of ethylene glycol when it is metabolized." Does this not sound a bit redundant, the root word metabolite is used twice, as is ethylene glycol?

I don't edit much and i am not wikipedia savvy so i don't want to mess with a GA article, but i think that sentence needs to be scrapped, or at the very least "when its metabolized" should be cut. --65.189.212.147 (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and changed it. Don't worry about messing with a GA article, if it can be improved just be bold and change it, it's the encyclopedia that anyone can edit so just go for it. Cheers Mr Bungle | talk 22:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns

Have a number of concerns with this article. It recommends decontamination too strongly. Uptodate says "There is little, if any, role for gastrointestinal (GI) decontamination in methanol or ethylene glycol poisoning, as these simple alcohols are rapidly absorbed. The rare patient known to have ingested a large amount of methanol or ethylene glycol may benefit from gastric aspiration via flexible nasogastric tubing if performed within 60 minutes of the ingestion. Activated charcoal (AC), gastric lavage, and syrup of ipecac have no role in the management of toxic alcohol exposures."--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:36, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Had a go at rewording it, while it is unlikely anybody would ever get deconatamination in a real world situation, I guess it is possible that someone could show up after a large ingestion within an hour. Feel free to change it about if you like. I'm not sure about the use of an empty 'history' section, hopefully you can add to that :), Cheers. Mr Bungle | talk 04:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not an inhibitor

Somebody wrote that ethanol is not an inhibitor or ADH as ADH metabolizes ethanol, technically speaking it is a competitive inhibitor, so I corrected it.174.3.107.124 (talk) 06:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 Have a number of concerns with this article.  It recommends decontamination too strongly.  Uptodate says "There is little, if any, role for gastrointestinal (GI) decontamination in methanol or ethylene glycol poisoning, as these simple alcohols are rapidly absorbed. The rare patient known to have ingested a large amount of methanol or ethylene glycol may benefit from gastric aspiration via flexible nasogastric tubing if performed within 60 minutes of the ingestion. Activated charcoal (AC), gastric lavage, and syrup of ipecac have no role in the management of toxic alcohol exposures."--[[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) 03:36, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 :Had a go at rewording it, while it is unlikely anybody would ever get deconatamination in a real world situation, I guess it is possible that someone could show up after a large ingestion within an hour. Feel free to change it about if you like. I'm not sure about the use of an empty 'history' section, hopefully you can add to that :), Cheers. [[User:Mr Bungle|<font face="Old English Text MT"  size="3" >M</font>r Bungle]] | [[User talk:Mr Bungle|<small><font color="blue" >talk</font></small>]] 04:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
+== Not an inhibitor ==
+Somebody wrote that ethanol is not an inhibitor or ADH as ADH metabolizes ethanol, technically speaking it is a competitive inhibitor, so I corrected it.[[Special:Contributions/174.3.107.124|174.3.107.124]] ([[User talk:174.3.107.124|talk]]) 06:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)