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== Hi again ==

Hi Phantomsteve,

It has been a while since I last logged on. Can you tell me where I can locate the live chat room where we met? I've some questions including whether or not I was able to get my "funshine" name change.

[[User:Cecn|Cecn]] ([[User talk:Cecn|talk]]) 19:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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  • If I left you a message: please answer on your talk page - it will be on my watchlist anyway, so I will see your response
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This will ensure that conversations remain together!


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Thanks for the help you gave me about a week ago. You are a good user and have inspired me to one day be a well-respected user on Wikipedia! Uncle Tech (talk) 03:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User page Questions

Hi, Phantomsteve, I was scaning the help desk page and one of your answers caught my eye. I was courious about the what seem to be "Wiki Ranking" editors ranking, anyway I went to your user page to look at your flags,badges ect. All of this is very interesting to me and will probably be bothering you in the future for help on building my page. My question now is I lost my brother in Viet Nam, I noticed you have "In Memorium" setion where do iI go to set this on my page ? And again I will be asking many questions, I like the layout of you page. Oh and please leave a "talkback" Mark Pearcy (talk) 18:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mark. I'm not sure what you mean by "Wiki Ranking" - on Wikipedia, most editors are ordinary editors like you and me. There are 11,129,155 registered editors. Of those, 1,702 (0.015%) are administrators (who can delete/undelete pages, protect/unprotect pages, etc). There are 34 bureaucrats (0.0003% of all users, 2% of all admins) who can promote users to admin or bureaucrat and can rename users.
With regard to the "In Memorium" section, I used a user box I created, but it was written specifically for British 1st World War veterans. I could create one for the Vietnam war - but I wouldn't be able to do that until next week, as I won't be on much until then, due to family commitments. For the 1st World War, all participants received at least the British War Medal and British Victory Medal - albeit posthumously. Was there a medal which all combatants received for Vietnam? If so, let me know, and I will create a Vietnam War "In Memorium" user box. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! However, I would like to remind you that the main purpose of Wikipedia is to create an encyclopedia - and looking at your contributions, you haven't done much of that yet! Wikipedia has user pages - but they aren't the main point of Wikipedia - it isn't a socialising site -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 13:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnam Service Medal

Inter-service decorations of the United States military

Mark Pearcy (talk) 16:04, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mark - I'll work on that next week. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx, Mark Pearcy (talk) 20:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA Comment

Hi there. At Basket_of_Puppies_2's RFA you asked an additional question that attempted to cite a request for CSD on criteron A1 that failed. However, the link you provided goes to a CSD using {{db-person}}. If I wasn't mistaken, it was identical to the link you made on the second example. I just thought I would let you know because I'm curious and want to take a look at that, and I think you copied the wrong URL. Regards, --Mpdelbuono (talk) 23:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did indeed copy the wrong URL! Thanks for letting me know - I've sorted it out now! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Steve!

I have just left a message with Anthony.bradbury about this deleted article.

Thank you for telling me. How did you know, since apparently there was no advanced warning? Or was there, and I missed it?

Actually, I am a wee bit surprised at this procedure, since I believe this stub did give some sources, and that the role of Eliza Hancock as a major inspirational source for Jane Austen must have been quite apparent, 'notable', in fact...

Best regards. --Azurfrog (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated the article for speedy deletion, as there was no indication in the article of her notability - it said that she was Jane Austen's cousin, but didn't mention anything about influencing Austen. As being Austen's cousin would not (in itself) make Hancock notable, it would not be eligible for inclusion on Wikipedia. However, if it had mentioned that she was an influence on Austen, I would not have nominated it for speedy deletion, as it would have indicated her importance. Perhaps you could ask Anthony,bradbury to userfy it to your user space? -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, so you are the guilty one! . Well, my mistake if I didn't provide any information on why she was indeed notable (a full biography on her by Deirdre Le Faye, to start with), as I should know by now. I thought I had, as well as provided a few sources, what's more.
Anyway, can you arrange it so the stub is re-created as I do mean to expand it?
Thanks! --Azurfrog (talk) 13:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It has been undeleted by anthony.bradbury (the admin who deleted it) - however I should point out that it was not at my suggestion! He obviously responded to the message you left on his talk page. Re-reading the article, I see there is a minor mention of her influence - in the final paragraph - which I overlooked (sorry). It might be an idea to make a mention of this fact in the lead section of the article - along with inline citations. Regards -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done! And you will find the article itself has been somehow expanded, too... --Azurfrog (talk) 09:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's looking good! I'll have a look at it properly if I get a chance, and see if I can find some more sources of information too! (No promises, mind!) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnam Userbox

Thank you Steve very much. Nice job ! ! Mlpearc (talk) 00:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest (OpenCTM)

Hi Phantomsteve!

Thanks for reviewing my page. I am still learning Wikipedia (I'm just starting to grasp all the mechanisms that make it work so great).

The OpenCTM page was marked for deletion, and indeed, it was written by the author of the software, and so it is a bit difficult to keep a neutral perspective, but I try my best.

The reason that it was created by me alone, and not someone else, is probably that OpenCTM is quite new. However, I have received much feedback and questions through various channels (mail, forums, interviews etc), so I thought that a Wikipedia page would be appropriate.

I have made some updates to the page (and I intend to continue to do so) - do you feel that the current version is more adequate? I also intend to add sections about the software library, the tools and the compression algorithm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcus256 (talkcontribs) 22:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The CoI doesn't need to particularly be a problem, as long as the article is written from a neutral perspective. The problem I see is the very fact that it is such a new project - the 1.0.1 stable release was 23 days ago. The problem here is that it is very hard to demonstrate that this is a notable. Although it is not a policy or a guideline, the essay Wikipedia:Notability (software) gives a good indication of what most editors would expect to see to show notability for software.
In general, subjects in Wikipedia should demonstrate that the meet the Wikipedia General Notability Guidelines, specifically:
If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article.
The guidelines go on to explain:
  • "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, and no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material. (Examples: The 360-page book by Sobel and the 528-page book by Black on IBM are plainly non-trivial. The one sentence mention by Walker of the band Three Blind Mice in a biography of Bill Clinton (Martin Walker (1992-01-06). "Tough love child of Kennedy". The Guardian. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)) is plainly trivial.)
  • "Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.
  • "Sources," (Including but not limited to newspapers, books and e-books, magazines, television and radio documentaries, reports by government agencies, and scientific journals. In the absence of multiple sources, it must be possible to verify that the source reflects a neutral point of view, is credible and provides sufficient detail for a comprehensive article) for notability purposes, should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources. Multiple sources are generally preferred. (Lack of multiple sources suggests that the topic may be more suitable for inclusion in an article on a broader topic. Mere republications of a single source or news wire service do not always constitute multiple works. Several journals simultaneously publishing articles in the same geographic region about an occurrence, does not always constitute multiple works, especially when the authors are relying on the same sources, and merely restating the same information. Specifically, several journals publishing the same article within the same geographic region from a news wire service is not a multiplicity of works.)
  • "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including (but not limited to): self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc. (Works produced by the subject, or those with a strong connection to them, are unlikely to be strong evidence of interest by the world at large. See also: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for handling of such situations.)
  • "Presumed" means that substantive coverage in reliable sources establishes a presumption, not a guarantee, that a subject is suitable for inclusion. Editors may reach a consensus that although a topic meets this criterion, it is not appropriate for a standalone article. For example, such an article may violate what Wikipedia is not. (Moreover, not all coverage in reliable sources constitutes evidence of notability for the purposes of article creation; for example, directories and databases, advertisements, announcements columns, and minor news stories are all examples of coverage that may not actually support notability when examined, despite their existence as reliable sources.)
I would suggest that the software does not yet meet these criteria. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thankspam

A piano keyboard encompassing 1 octave Hello, Phantomsteve! This is just a note thanking you for participating in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with a total of 93 support !votes, 1 oppose and 3 editors remaining neutral. While frankly overwhelmed by the level of support, I humbly thank the community for the trust it has placed in me, and vow to use the tools judiciously and without malice.
KV5 (TalkPhils)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 7 December 2009

Hi Steve, today you rolled back a page I created that had been blanked by a vandal. I think the same person is repeatedly vandalising this page and putting defamatory/insulting remarks on it.

I think you do a great job, by the way, it's brilliant that you care so much to spend time and effort trying to make W a reliable source. I spent a long time doing research etc for the page I made and getting it "right" and it is very upsetting when idiots come and vandalise it.

Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks very much Kay Kaywesley (talk) 17:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again

Hi Phantomsteve,

It has been a while since I last logged on. Can you tell me where I can locate the live chat room where we met? I've some questions including whether or not I was able to get my "funshine" name change.

Cecn (talk) 19:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]