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Dave Ryon

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Article which exists only to raise the profile of a political candidate, which the author makes clear here, but Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. WP:POLITICIAN states that unelected candidates are not inherently notable and there is no other indication of notability: the references and external links are all either (a) the subject's own campaign sites, (b) tables of results which include the subject amonst them, or (c) coverage of the elections, with passing reference to subject - ie no significant 3rd party coverage, and certainly nothing outside of being as political candidate. Twice speedily deleted as David Ryon, the author has recreated the article citing the existence of articles on opponents Mary Jo Kilroy and Steve Stivers as grounds for inclusion, but those individuals are elected politicians and therefore notable. I42 (talk) 06:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• Delete - non-notable politician who has yet to win a single race. (GregJackP (talk) 11:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC))
• Delete GregJack sums it up for me. The statement that he had been "a Republican candidate for the United States Congress in the 12th district of Ohio" has to be tempered with "Ryon took just under 10 percent of the vote in the Republican Primary". Even party nominees aren't normally entitled to their own article. He can be mentioned (no redirect, no merge) in the article about Ohio's 15th congressional district. Mandsford (talk) 13:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• Save Correction Steve Stivers is not currently holding any office. The original David Ryon article had been up for over a year without anybody challenging it. I would a least suggest you hold off on the delete until after today's primary. If Mr. Ryon wins his primary which would be historic since its the only contested Constitution Party primary in Ohio and the first Constitution Party primary in Ohio that has to be notable. If David Ryon loses then I would agree the article should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.119.183 (talk) 15:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Ambiguous phrasing; apologies. For clarity: both are people who have been elected, and therefore are notable. Notability is not temporary, so whether they are still in office is irrelevant. I42 (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

What was he elected to, exactly? It's not in his biography. And who is he running against in the primary election, since there isn't a choice between two or more poeple for the right to be the Constitution candidate in November? Mandsford (talk) 20:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Now it's getting confusing! "Both" as I meant it were Mary Jo Kilroy and Steve Stivers in the original nomination, not Stivers and Ryon. I42 (talk) 06:52, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
• Delete. Routinely unsuccessful candidates are not notable per WP:POLITICIAN. Agree with Mandsford's analysis. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:47, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

• Save There were two candidates running for the nomination of the Constitution Party in Ohio's 15th Congressional District. David Ryon and Chris Macisco both were candidates in Ohio's first and only contested Constitution Party Primary on May 4, 2010. In unofficial results from the Secretary of State of Ohio with 100% of the Statewide precincts reporting, David Ryon is winning with a 2.5% lead over Chris Macisco. Isn't winning a notable achievement in a first and only contested Constitution Party primary ever held in Ohio? It means that David Ryon earned the right to be on the General Ballot in November as well.