Talk:Elizabeth Dilling

"Her second husband, Jeremiah Stokes (1877-1954), was a lawyer and author. He published the antisemitic The Plot Against Christianity in 1964, "

Franco

Saying 'She believed Franco was a brave Christian' does not seem to get to what was different about Dilling. Surely everyone, including his foes, believed that Franco was personaly brave (as shown by battles in Morocco) and that he was a believing member of the Roman Catholic Church. I suggest this sentence be replaced with a summary of Dilling's beliefs, sourced from her books, that military dictatorship could be an acceptable alternative to Communism.173.13.153.50 (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Untitled

Some mistake in dates, here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.68.24 (talk) 20:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism has never been a crime in the US

Elizabeth Dilling Stokes (April 19, 1894 – May 26, 1966) was an American anti-communist and anti-war activist and writer in the 1930s and 1940s, who was charged with antisemitism and sedition in the Great Sedition Trial of 1944

The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects the rights of anti-Semites to freedom of speech. That was true even during the Second World War.Falange (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Anti-semite

Ok, so we have a blog, a source that doesn't mention anti-semitism, and a single source. That's not enough for the lead IMO. Perhaps the body, but not the lead (or at least not an assertion of fact). Soxwon (talk) 22:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

OK. Where then? The lead calls her an anti-Communist, which is generally seen as a positive thing, but her anti-Communism was linked to her anti-Semitism.Jimintheatl (talk) 23:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

As for sourcing, I don't see how you're missing the anti-Semitism mentions in the refs, not all blogs are equal, and the cites are historical reference works.Jimintheatl (talk)

The "Women and war: a historical encyclopedia from antiquity to the present" link doesn't mention the word anti-semetic, anti-semite, or anything of that nature. A blog is a blog, and one source isn't enough for the lead. Soxwon (talk) 00:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't know which ref you're reading, but read it more carefully, please. And, it's "anti-Semitic", self-published blogs are not RS, but blogs affiliated with established orgs are. I have cited 2 works by historians that refer to Dilling's anti-Semitism. So, sourcing aside, what about the issue of the lead treating Dilling as an anti-Communist, anti-war activist (not generally seen as bad things) but ignoring her darker inclinations (anti-Semitism, white supremacist, Hitler-friendly....)Needs work, agreed?Jimintheatl (talk) 01:07, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think reading her book 'The Plot Against Christianity'(1952) will settle the question of whether she was an anti-Semite or not. I vote yes; however it should be noted in the article somewhere that she only shifted to this view in the late 1930's. 173.13.153.50 (talk) 21:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

MLK, Civil Rights, etc.

The article mentions that she thought Gandhi, etc., were Communists. Did she feel the same way about Martin Luther King Jr., or the Civil Rights movement in general? I would assume that she did, but right now the article doesn't explicitly say so. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:13, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

She died in 1966, so her "productive" years predated MLK.Jimintheatl (talk) 02:59, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Did She Visit Soviet Union?

the article states that when she returned to Illinois she began a tour exposing the workers' paradise as anything but. It is not explained what that was but implies the USSR and that she had been there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.34.181.212 (talk) 00:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)