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Elwyn has written in several places that his employment at Bell Labs began in 1966, but both he and I began regular employment as Members of Technical Staff in the Mathematics and Statistics Research Center in the summer of 1967. Once I asked Elwyn about his citing "1966", and he stated that he had a summer job in the Center in 1966. (I don't consider a summer job as the start of "employment" -- but hey! he's *Elwyn*, so he's entitled to his own definitions of terms, if not his own "facts".) Center Director Henry Pollak appointed Elwyn and me as a two-person committee to plan and put on the Center's 1967 "Christmas" party. Elwyn soon revealed his incredible talent and wit -- he was a lot of fun to work with. I quickly put him on my short list of "Math Center folks I am *NOT* going to try to compete with" -- along with Ron Graham, Larry Shepp (another Putnam), Colin Mallows, and -- later -- N(iel) J. A. Sloane -- and still later, Andrew Odlysko (sp?).) Perhaps Pollak knew that I had been active in the Presbyterian church growing up, and that Elwyn's father was a (Dutch) Reform minister in the Cincinnati area when Elwyn was a teen, in one of the towns on the Kentucky side of the Ohio River. So the Christmas-party committee consisted of two guys from Florida and Kentucky -- hardly the typical Bell Labs combination.)-- William M. Boyce <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:WmMBoyce|WmMBoyce]] ([[User talk:WmMBoyce|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/WmMBoyce|contribs]]) 08:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Elwyn has written in several places that his employment at Bell Labs began in 1966, but both he and I began regular employment as Members of Technical Staff in the Mathematics and Statistics Research Center in the summer of 1967. Once I asked Elwyn about his citing "1966", and he stated that he had a summer job in the Center in 1966. (I don't consider a summer job as the start of "employment" -- but hey! he's *Elwyn*, so he's entitled to his own definitions of terms, if not his own "facts".) Center Director Henry Pollak appointed Elwyn and me as a two-person committee to plan and put on the Center's 1967 "Christmas" party. Elwyn soon revealed his incredible talent and wit -- he was a lot of fun to work with. I quickly put him on my short list of "Math Center folks I am *NOT* going to try to compete with" -- along with Ron Graham, Larry Shepp (another Putnam), Colin Mallows, and -- later -- N(iel) J. A. Sloane -- and still later, Andrew Odlysko (sp?).) Perhaps Pollak knew that I had been active in the Presbyterian church growing up, and that Elwyn's father was a (Dutch) Reform minister in the Cincinnati area when Elwyn was a teen, in one of the towns on the Kentucky side of the Ohio River. So the Christmas-party committee consisted of two guys from Florida and Kentucky -- hardly the typical Bell Labs combination.)-- William M. Boyce <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:WmMBoyce|WmMBoyce]] ([[User talk:WmMBoyce|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/WmMBoyce|contribs]]) 08:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Only without math degree ? ==

The article says "As of 2008, he was the only member of the mathematics faculty who did not possess a degree in mathematics." I think this is wrong - [[John R. Steel]]'s PhD is in "Logic & the Methodology of Science" and I think his undergraduate degree is in Philosophy. [[Special:Contributions/76.200.132.122|76.200.132.122]] ([[User talk:76.200.132.122|talk]])

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Elwyn has written in several places that his employment at Bell Labs began in 1966, but both he and I began regular employment as Members of Technical Staff in the Mathematics and Statistics Research Center in the summer of 1967. Once I asked Elwyn about his citing "1966", and he stated that he had a summer job in the Center in 1966. (I don't consider a summer job as the start of "employment" -- but hey! he's *Elwyn*, so he's entitled to his own definitions of terms, if not his own "facts".) Center Director Henry Pollak appointed Elwyn and me as a two-person committee to plan and put on the Center's 1967 "Christmas" party. Elwyn soon revealed his incredible talent and wit -- he was a lot of fun to work with. I quickly put him on my short list of "Math Center folks I am *NOT* going to try to compete with" -- along with Ron Graham, Larry Shepp (another Putnam), Colin Mallows, and -- later -- N(iel) J. A. Sloane -- and still later, Andrew Odlysko (sp?).) Perhaps Pollak knew that I had been active in the Presbyterian church growing up, and that Elwyn's father was a (Dutch) Reform minister in the Cincinnati area when Elwyn was a teen, in one of the towns on the Kentucky side of the Ohio River. So the Christmas-party committee consisted of two guys from Florida and Kentucky -- hardly the typical Bell Labs combination.)-- William M. Boyce —Preceding unsigned comment added by WmMBoyce (talkcontribs) 08:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only without math degree ?

The article says "As of 2008, he was the only member of the mathematics faculty who did not possess a degree in mathematics." I think this is wrong - John R. Steel's PhD is in "Logic & the Methodology of Science" and I think his undergraduate degree is in Philosophy. 76.200.132.122 (talk)