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Trijang Rinpoche article deleted: for invalid reasons, the very good article on Wikipedia is the ORIGINAL, others have copied it
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Moriori, I am rather shocked and distressed to see that you have deleted this page :-( I spent many many hours researching it and helping to write it from scratch. If you check the chronology, you will see that it is the other site that has copied the original encyclopediac article on Wikipedia, NOT the other way around. Many people come to this Wikipedia page to find out about this great Tibetan Lama and the page is well researched and balanced (which may be why others have copied it, but it is surely not right to blame this on the Wikipedia article). Please please please put the article back where it belongs. Thank you. ([[User:Truthbody|Truthbody]] ([[User talk:Truthbody|talk]]) 19:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC))
Moriori, I am rather shocked and distressed to see that you have deleted this page :-( I spent many many hours researching it and helping to write it from scratch. If you check the chronology, you will see that it is the other site that has copied the original encyclopediac article on Wikipedia, NOT the other way around. Many people come to this Wikipedia page to find out about this great Tibetan Lama and the page is well researched and balanced (which may be why others have copied it, but it is surely not right to blame this on the Wikipedia article). Please please please put the article back where it belongs. Thank you. ([[User:Truthbody|Truthbody]] ([[User talk:Truthbody|talk]]) 19:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC))

:Moriori, if you check where you say the material has been copied from http://padmaguruarts.com/lineage_gurus/gyeshe/gyeshe.html you will see that this website owner is running a business and has simply cut and pasted a couple of paragraphs from Wikipedia to help his business. Whereas Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and is free for everyone to consult, so people should be able to find out information about this famous Lama on Wikipedia, not by being forced to look elsewhere e.g. ending up on this commercial website. It would be better to write to the PadmaGuruArts website owner and ask him to change his information as it is infringing the copyright of the Wikipedia article. He does not even include all the original sources and so on. Surely, there must be rules about this? For if Wikipedia articles are deleted every time someone wants to copy bits from them, there would be no articles left at all on Wikipedia. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks. ([[User:Truthbody|Truthbody]] ([[User talk:Truthbody|talk]]) 19:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC))

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Message to srich32977 & response

Why? Why are you delinking perfectly valid Wikilinks saying they are "redundant" when they clearly are not. I'm talking about this, this and this etc. Moriori (talk) 22:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not so. I just looked at Sylvia Browne, which you reverted. Randi, paranormal, Larry King etc. are all redundant redundant. But revert away if you must. It is no skin off my teeth. I enjoy editing. (Perhaps Sylvia can answer why you like unneeded wikilinks!) --S. Rich 23:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Can you explain what you mean by "Randi, paranormal, Larry King etc. are all redundant redundant"? Moriori (talk) 00:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fundació Suñol article.

I introduced the information about Fundació Suñol twice, in 2008 and today. The information that I included was written by me, and sites as www.barcelona.com or other touristic websites are using this text because we send it almost two years ago. Could you please reaccept my article. I think it's important that Fundació Suñol appears in wikipedia (as already does in other many languages), because is an important museum in the city. Please, visit the website: www.fundaciosunol.org Xavier de Luca —Preceding unsigned comment added by FundaSunol (talkcontribs) 10:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Su-30 MKI

Just to clarify, all Su-30MKIs use the AL-31 engine which until 2010 was only manufactured in Russia. Also, I have corrected the wording to state indigenously assembled (which is different from indigenously manufactured). Should that suffice or would you prefer the wording as it was? Vedant (talk) 03:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, ok. I think people would generally interpret an indigenous (Indian built) aircraft to be Indian built, so it would be informative to explain that it had a Russian engine. But specifying "assembled" would fix the prob. Moriori (talk) 03:55, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the confusion, I was actually just about to correct that. AFAIK, all the components used in the aircraft today are being manufactured in India (including the engine) per this although previous aircraft were manufactured using kits supplied from Russia. Vedant (talk) 04:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2005 election

Moriori, please reconsider what you are doing at that article. The lead version you've restored reads, "The 2005 New Zealand general election held on 17 September 2005 determined the composition of the 48th New Zealand Parliament. No party won a majority in the unicameral House of Representatives, but the Labour Party of Prime Minister Helen Clark secured two more seats than nearest rival, the National Party of Dr Don Brash. With the exception of the newly-formed Māori Party, which took four Māori seats from Labour, most of the other parties polled lower than in the previous election, losing votes and seats." That version contains several unnecessary pieces of information (there is no need to state that the New Zealand parliament is unicameral there, for example), and some misleading statements (the Labour Party was not a party "of" Helen Clark, since it does not belong to her personally). I cannot see a good reason to restore a version that contains such things. Linbit (talk) 08:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting pages

When you delete pages, it would be helpful to warn the users who created them with a speedy notice, or else they will just keep doing it and they can never be reported to AIV, since there is no record on their talk page of what they have done. Regards, WackyWace converse | contribs 09:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki=encyclopedia

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia,not a dictionary. Anyway, pseudoscience is defined by what it "is not" it is "pseudo" "science". It can "not" do it in any number of ways. Lead in is a summary. Defining pseudoscience by what it does do could take an eternity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.218.85.222 (talk) 03:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. I am obliged to AGF, so I guess I must thank you for your advice. However, we shall see how your creative efforts end up. Moriori (talk) 08:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously

Do you know how to edit a wiki? Just reverting back to the old jumbled gobbledygook of the old version is silly, there are a zillion problems with this thin & I'm doing the best I can, reverting a days worth of work because of one conjugation of a verb, is wasteful... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.218.85.222 (talk) 03:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow #2. I am obliged to AGF, so I guess I must again thank you for your advice. However, we shall see how your creative efforts end up. Moriori (talk) 08:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia articles can and should be broken up into sections

You claim the lead I keep introducing is a POV, however you are wrong. The lead is based on cited material throughout the page, & simplifies the whole scope of the topic into ONE EASY SENTENCE. I'm sorry if your stance is that we should be complicating information in order to spread it, but I disagree with you. This page is all fudged up in a number of ways & I keep trying to fix it. I'll just need to put a tagit. Geez, you people.

it is not vandalism to organize a wiki page

Organization is what the kenosis version lacks.

Reason

Hello. I just wanted to see what could be changed about the JAPANiCAN article you deleted in order avoid future deletion. It made no particular sales boasts, and simply shared basic information about the company and its history. Thank you. I look forward to hearing from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azure Interim (talkcontribs) 09:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It reads like an ad, looks a bit like an ad, and has no references, least of all independent sources. Moriori (talk) 01:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colin McLaren

Hi. I am unclear as to what needs to be altered to have this page accepted? It is not a copy of Profile Talent's webpage, infact I include that link for any interested party. The synopsis follows Colin's career chronologically (which obviously can't be changed), recent updates (not on Profile page) Also the page has been approved by Colin, who is contactable at cm@scuttlebuttmedia.net if required. I hope you will be able to clarify what is required, regards, alison —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizmolucy (talkcontribs) 08:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article had identical content to http://www.profiletalent.com.au/colin-mclaren.html in part. That is copyvio. Info in the content can be rewritten for wiki purposes, and would obviously need to be, but the actual content cannot be cut and pasted. Moriori (talk) 08:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colin McLaren

Hi. The first article was based on the profile page as i originally wrote that too, but the second does not. I have just rewritten it (second page posted) The information is not cut and paste. The facts are not changeable. I have included extra details and names but can not change the chronology. If i have missed a word or phrase can you please copy and paste what it is you are objecting to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizmolucy (talkcontribs) 09:02, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hone Harawira

Moriori,

Given that Hone was originally Hone Hatfield, why would you remove this important fact from his bio page? Very biased editing... hmmmm. Chur —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.185.18.69 (talk) 09:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't remove this important fact from the article, but moved it slightly further up. See my edit here. I also removed your claim he was christened. It was not mentioned in the reference. That 's ok. Moriori (talk) 09:36, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


oppssy ..... my bad. Helps if I could learn to read :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.185.18.69 (talk) 10:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you earlier speedy deleted جامعة العلوم والتكنولوجيا في الصين as category A1 with the comment "foreign language". However, I didn't think A1 was supposed to be used for foreign-language additions - aren't we supposed to use the {{notenglish}} template to give people time to translate them? (As an aside, it has been recreated and a quick translation using Google Translate showed plenty of identifying context in the latest version - but it's a duplicate of another article, so I've tagged it A10). Best regards -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trijang Rinpoche article deleted

The copyrighted page referred to is wrong: http://www.loselingmonastery.org/index.php?id=52&type=p The referred article is not even about Trijang Rinpoche. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.160.51 (talk) 02:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But this one is and that is the url I intended to cite!Moriori (talk) 02:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reckon that page and several others took the information from the wiki page, the wiki page cited a textual sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.160.51 (talk) 03:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I brought up the now-deleted page in the Yahoo cache to see what information was the same as on that other site. The opening paragraph has a number of quotes, which are cited in the Wikipedia article, but the references are not given on that other site:

Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche (1900-1981) was a Gelug Lama and a direct disciple of Je Pabongka. He was the junior tutor and spiritual guide[1] of the 14th Dalai Lama for forty years. He is also the root lama of many Gelug Lamas who teach in the West including Zong Rinpoche, Geshe Rabten, Lama Yeshe, Lama Gangchen Rinpoche and Geshe Kelsang Gyatso. Geshe Kelsang has likened Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche to "a vast reservoir from which all Gelugpa practitioners of the present day received 'waters' of blessings and instructions,"[2] and the FPMT describes him as "one of the foremost Tibetan Buddhist masters of our time."[3] It is widely acknowledged that "Without his help the situation of Tibetan Buddhism in general and in particular of the tradition of Master Je Tsongkhapa would be in quite a different state." A great number of present-day Tibetan Buddhist masters are his students and "whatever they have accomplished, they owe it directly or indirectly to the great kindness of this master, who stands out as one of the most unforgettable figures in the history of Tibet and its Buddhism."[4]

According to the Wayback Machine, in September of 2006, this article was just a stub--containing of nascent version of the above paragraph: [1]. In comparison, that other site did not even have such a page as of July 2008 (i.e., there was no link to a page called "H.H. Pabongka Rinpoche, H.H. Trijang Rinpoche & Geshe Kelsang Gyatso" -- those statues weren't being sold yet): [2].
As you can see from the PDF I put together, the author of that site simply highlighted out bits and pieces of the Wikipedia article for their own purposes: [3]
I'm sure that viewing the history of the Trijang Rinpoche article as it evolved would confirm this. Emptymountains (talk) 05:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moriori, I am rather shocked and distressed to see that you have deleted this page :-( I spent many many hours researching it and helping to write it from scratch. If you check the chronology, you will see that it is the other site that has copied the original encyclopediac article on Wikipedia, NOT the other way around. Many people come to this Wikipedia page to find out about this great Tibetan Lama and the page is well researched and balanced (which may be why others have copied it, but it is surely not right to blame this on the Wikipedia article). Please please please put the article back where it belongs. Thank you. (Truthbody (talk) 19:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Moriori, if you check where you say the material has been copied from http://padmaguruarts.com/lineage_gurus/gyeshe/gyeshe.html you will see that this website owner is running a business and has simply cut and pasted a couple of paragraphs from Wikipedia to help his business. Whereas Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and is free for everyone to consult, so people should be able to find out information about this famous Lama on Wikipedia, not by being forced to look elsewhere e.g. ending up on this commercial website. It would be better to write to the PadmaGuruArts website owner and ask him to change his information as it is infringing the copyright of the Wikipedia article. He does not even include all the original sources and so on. Surely, there must be rules about this? For if Wikipedia articles are deleted every time someone wants to copy bits from them, there would be no articles left at all on Wikipedia. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks. (Truthbody (talk) 19:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]