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Additionally, in Britain these groups are generally described simply as the "Antis". |
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== Position of Roman Catholic Church? == |
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The article mentions the Catholic Encyclopedia, which was a private publication ostensibly aimed at catholic readers. However this is example is a bit confusing as to whether this was the actual early-20th-century position of the Catholic church in the U.S. or not. Certainly, the position of the church as a whole is more significant to the article than a single example of a publication. Could another editor help track down sources to answer whether the Catholic church was a significant member of anti-suffragism at the time? |
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I found this [http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/stories/0701_0113.html] article that relates to Nebraska: |
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:''The Roman Catholic Church was the religious group that most consistently opposed women's suffrage. In 1906 more than 29 percent of all Nebraskans claimed affiliation with the Catholic Church, by far the largest single denomination in the state. German Catholics were the most conservative and opposed most of the progressive era reforms; especially any attempts to provide women access to the ballot box or prohibit the sale of alcoholic beverages.'' |
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There may be multiple sources but it is a bit unclear. The primary source given is this [http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/media/0701_0113_0101.gif] pamphlet, which appears to be related to debate amongst women in the Catholic church as the church itself '''had not taken a position on the issue''' at that time. From the original pamphlet: |
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:"''Because the Catholic church has not declared herself on this point, politics being outside of her sphere...''" |
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so if that source is to be taken as fact, the Catholic church had no position and the example of the ''Catholic Encyclopedia'' may require further clarification. If anyone could provide further citations on this issue they would be most welcome. [[Special:Contributions/96.252.169.163|96.252.169.163]] ([[User talk:96.252.169.163|talk]]) 06:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC) |
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The term "Anti-suffragism" returns only 1 370 results in Google. Is this a real word? --MZMcBride 03:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes; you can see the newspaper clippings for uses of it. Remember, this is 100-year-old news, and for the most part it's not that interesting in scholarly terms. Ashibaka tock 12:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Opposition to women's suffrage
Only 160 opponents, and only conservative MPs? That's complete and utter rubbish- a number of prominent Liberals opposed women's suffrage, such as Asquith; in other areas, he was a progressive MP. Or take this quote from Spartacus, for instance:
"In October, 1912, George Lansbury decided to draw attention to the plight of WSPU prisoners by resigning his seat in the House of Commons and fighting a by-election in favour of votes for women. Lansbury discovered that a large number of males were still opposed to equal rights for women and he was defeated by 731 votes." And I am certain that there were more than 102 people in Britain in anti-suffrage organisations in 1902. The source doesn't appear to make that claim at all. Instead, it states that there were 160 signatures on a single petition. If I launch a petition tomorrow, how will I be able to get the views of even everyone in my town, let alone in the whole of Britain?
Additionally, in Britain these groups are generally described simply as the "Antis". -- Dandelions 21:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Position of Roman Catholic Church?
The article mentions the Catholic Encyclopedia, which was a private publication ostensibly aimed at catholic readers. However this is example is a bit confusing as to whether this was the actual early-20th-century position of the Catholic church in the U.S. or not. Certainly, the position of the church as a whole is more significant to the article than a single example of a publication. Could another editor help track down sources to answer whether the Catholic church was a significant member of anti-suffragism at the time?
I found this [1] article that relates to Nebraska:
- The Roman Catholic Church was the religious group that most consistently opposed women's suffrage. In 1906 more than 29 percent of all Nebraskans claimed affiliation with the Catholic Church, by far the largest single denomination in the state. German Catholics were the most conservative and opposed most of the progressive era reforms; especially any attempts to provide women access to the ballot box or prohibit the sale of alcoholic beverages.
There may be multiple sources but it is a bit unclear. The primary source given is this [2] pamphlet, which appears to be related to debate amongst women in the Catholic church as the church itself had not taken a position on the issue at that time. From the original pamphlet:
- "Because the Catholic church has not declared herself on this point, politics being outside of her sphere..."
so if that source is to be taken as fact, the Catholic church had no position and the example of the Catholic Encyclopedia may require further clarification. If anyone could provide further citations on this issue they would be most welcome. 96.252.169.163 (talk) 06:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)