User talk:Lagoo sab

Afghan Refugees

Not all Afghans living in Iran are refugees. There could be some who simply moved there to live there, regardless of the political situation in their homeland. Also, there could be some on vacation in Iran, or Afghans born in Iran to two Afghan parents. MShefa (talk) 01:19, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm aware of this. I have some relatives in Iran and they lived there since 1980s under Afghan passports. Iran does not give citizenship to Afghans. However, they do have some kind of documents which enables them to live there permanently, I think it's the "blue cards" or something and I think these are given to Afghans or other refugees who were admitted to Iran in 1980s. I'm not sure yet but I'll find out when I call my relatives there because they are waiting to recieve that in the near future.--Lagoo sab (talk) 02:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Lagoo sab. You have new messages at WP:RPP.
Message added 20:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Again. Airplaneman ✈ 21:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Pata Khazana

If your edits are constructive and the user still keeps on reverting you, it would be really good to report it to one of the admins. You will be able to find admins who are familiar with these issues. Thank you (Ketabtoon (talk) 23:06, 30 September 2010 (UTC))

Talkback

Hello, Lagoo sab. You have new messages at WP:AN.
Message added 01:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

BTW, not sure if you want these templates. Can I keep using them here? Airplaneman ✈ 01:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pashto language. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Administrative Intervention sought as of 07.12.2010

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Chartinael (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Languages of Afghanistan

Hello. I will once again revert your edits, because they are POV and selective quoting. While your edits are indeed sourced, they are POV, because you choose only the sentences and quotes that serve your own POV. For example, while the Britannica article on Afghanistan explains that Persian is spoken by 50% and Pashto by 40%, you only quote the first sentence of that paragraph which does not say anything about language and ignore the rest. Then you take a quote from the Britannica article on "Dari" and for Pashto, you ignore Britannica totally and instead quote from the 1980's article of Encyclopaedia Iranica. That is selective quoting for POV purposes and hence against Wikipedia rules. Please make sure you use neutral and Non-POV wording. I will keep your sources, but I will rewrite the text, neutralizing the POV. Take care. Tajik (talk) 03:14, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

The article only mentions and uses CIA's estimate, that is POV and biased. The years 1980s, 90s, 2000s is irrelevant because all the given references are outdated. The CIA estimate is from at least from 1992. All the major sources say Pashto is the native toung of 35-60% while CIA is talking about languages spoken or in use in Afghanistan as Dari 50% and Pashto 35%. There is a difference between languages spoken and the languages being the native toung, and my edits help to explain this.--Lagoo sab (talk) 23:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

The CIA factbook is considered a reliable source in Wikipedia. Whether you think that it is reliable or not is irrelevant. And for that, you can't just do some Google-research and then pick the sources you like. There are plenty of other sources that put the number of Pashto lower or the number of Persian higher.

What is problematic with your edits is that you pick sources. You only take the sentences you like while you ignore others within the same source. That is POV editing. If you quote a source for one language, make sure you take the same source for the other language as well. Otherwise, it is POV. Tajik (talk) 01:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your cooperation. I think you should change your edits in Languages of Afghanistan as well ... Tajik (talk) 03:07, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Inappropriate use of term "vandalism"

This [1] is not vandalism. Please read the definition of vandalism at WP:VAND#NOT and WP:DV. Magog the Ogre (talk) 12:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will read what constitutes vandalism, but as you can see he deleted valid sourced material while a discussion on this is in progress here.--Lagoo sab (talk) 12:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Per Blanking, illegitimate, this could be vanalism and about WP:DV I didn't call anyone a vandal.--Lagoo sab (talk) 14:08, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Chartinael provided a reason in his edit summary for the content removal. The blanking section is referring to the propensity of editors to remove content without any reason other than to deface the page. Chartinael was trying to provide WP:NPOV, which the VAND#NOT page indicates is not vandalism, even if it's misguided. As for the DV page, that page is referring to either a) calling another editor a vandal, or b) saying another editor is committing vandalism. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, rvv is short form for "revert vandalism". Magog the Ogre (talk) 17:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I thought it was short for revert.--Lagoo sab (talk) 17:26, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NisarKand for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:28, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Pashto language

Your claim is not correct. The source clearly says:

"8,000,000 all Pashto in Afghanistan (1989), 35% to 50% of the population (1996). Population total all countries 9,204,000 or more. All Pashto in all countries: 19,000,000 (1999 WA)"

Tajik (talk) 01:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I have looked at the present Ethnologue. Figures on your talk page. Chartinael (talk) 01:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

"Pashto" is the southern Afghanistan dialect, you know this very well no need for me to explain further. The other is Northern Pakthu, spoken mainly in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa areas as well as some eastern Afghan areas. Then there is the Central Pakhtu, which is mainly in the Waziristan region. This is why www.ethnologue.com has 3 separate articles on Pashto, and the All Pashto in all countries: 19,000,000 (1999 WA) is saying that the Southern Pashto (southern Afghanistan region + Quetta Pakistan and neighboring regions) has a total of 19 million Pashto speakers.--Lagoo sab (talk) 01:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Can you just look at the links provided on my and Tajik's talk page? I went to the 15th edition. Which is the present one. Don't cite older versions, when newer exist. Chartinael (talk) 01:53, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Ethnologue is pro on languages so they are no dumbies to claim 19 million when every source you click on says Pashto speakers are 40-60 million. This is getting very ridiculous, and I'm here laughing at what people do with their precious life. It's Christmas time go have fun instead of this boring arguments.--Lagoo sab (talk) 01:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

It is just another one of those cherry picking acts you do. It also demonstrates you inability to understand the sources you quote. 19.000.000 Pashto in all countries. Southern Pashto in all countries was given with 9,204,000. Chartinael (talk) 01:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

19.000.000 Pashto in all countries is talking about one dialect of the language in all countries. You need to show the numbers of the others and when you do that it comes to around 40-60 million. If you go to Afghanistan and Pakistan, you'll have a much better idea about the ground reality. Not to mention the large number of Pashto-speakers found in Arab countries in the Middle East. But someone sitting in Europe just googling info will not be able to understand.--Lagoo sab (talk) 02:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

December 2010

This is your only warning. If you make personal attacks on other people again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 15:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this warning, Lagoo sab. As I've said before, I think all of you are in the wrong to some degree. But I've personally had enough of your assuming bad faith. This type of comment is completely unfounded (Future Perfect is a long time editor and administrator in good standing on Wikipedia, whose editing pattern bears no resemblance to this editor). Stop stalking these editors onto every discussion page around and throwing accusations at them. It's very clear that you lack some very basic skills for forming consensus. If you need help, feel free to ask; I'm very amenable to helping other editors. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm aware that Future Perfect is an admin. Believe me I'm not stalking anyone in Wikipedia. I have natural psychic powers. I appreciate your help. I'll just take a break from editing until everyone cools off, and enjoy some other things.--Lagoo sab (talk) 19:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)